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[Mr_tool]

Do you know of anyone who may have a maxed pilot?

If one was to convert gold into experience,how much gold would it take to max out a pilot's skills?

 

Just regular playing and I will be dead before I manage a pilot with ALL the skills.

Edited by Mr_tool, 23 January 2023 - 01:33 AM.

[BuffaloTime]

Mr_tool, on 22 January 2023 - 08:32 PM, said:

Do you know of anyone who may have a maxed pilot?

If one was to convert gold into experience,how much gold would it take to max out a pilot's skills?

 

Just regular playing and I will be dead before I manage a pilot with ALL the skills.

There are players that have more than one. My F2A pilot has 14 skills. I could use my free XP to get 15th skill but I will grind it until I'm closer. Don't have any others over 11 skills. Ridiculous amount of XP needed after 10 skills.

 

[MARS_REVENANT]

I got fed up changing pilots, so ended up with several 12 and 13 point pilots, but have never made it to the full 15. I'm about 25% the way through my 13th skill, if I exchanged all 782,000 free exp, I would still be about 80,000 short of the 13th skill.  Not worth it IMO.

Edited by MARS_REVENANT, 23 January 2023 - 02:42 AM.

[12_inch_Hawk]

I have 4 at max skill; Mary Lovehart, Charlotte Von Staufen, Hans Webber, and a regular American pilot.  Cadman Miller, Vasiliy Pavlov, Marina Litvyakova, Elliot Millie, and Charles Donovan are all at 14 skill points.   I have at least a 5 point pilot in every tech tree plane but at least a 9 point pilot in all my favorites (1 of each class at each tier plus a plane for Gobulev's and  Gabreski's at each tier) and 9+ point pilots are the only ones worth mentioning.  

 

 

skill points	number of pilots	number of gunners
15	4	0
14	5	2
13	4	1
12	6	1
11	3	3
10	7	1
9	39	1
8		16

 

To know how much xp it takes to get each skill point see this link Crew Skills and Proficiency | World of Warplanes (wargaming.net)

 

To get the last 1 skill point from 14 to 15 takes 14,320,000 crew xp.  Divide by 5 = 2,864,000 free xp.  Divide by 25 = 114,560 gold  But you also have to get the aircraft xp in the first place to be able to convert it using gold.  You are better off using your free xp to get pilots up to 9 skill points and playing your good pilots that already have the most skill points.  I usually don't start a battle with less than 13 skill points and am using my free xp to increase the skills on my lagging gunners.

Edited by 12_inch_Hawk, 23 January 2023 - 03:01 AM.

[12_inch_Hawk]

The way to get high skill pilots is by not moving up the tech tree too fast.  Once you get to tier 4 you can get all the tokens you need through epic achievements.  If you waste time doing all 3 daily missions you get 15 tokens or you can get the 15 epic achievements in about an hour playing nothing but tier 4 planes and get the same 15 tokens.  If you can't get your tokens at tier 4 there is no point moving up to tier 5. 

 

Once you specialize a plane and have the next plane researched you can click on accelerate crew training so all of your aircraft xp goes to your crew instead of building useless aircraft xp that you have to spend gold to convert to free xp than apply that free xp to your pilot.  You won't have a lot of aircraft xp to spend gold converting to free xp.  Max out the equipment on your tier 4 plane and keep playing that until you can max out the tier 5 you researched.  Once the tier 5 is maxed out you can move up your tier 4 pilot to the tier 5 plane and start playing tier 5.  You should have a MINIMUM of 1 skill point per tier before you move to that tier.  So to move up to a maxed out tier 5 plane you should have a MINIMUM of 5 skill points or MORE before you even start playing tier 5.  Its the same thing for all the next tiers.  You are using 1 pilot and moving him up and using the same pilot in all of your premiums.  When you finish 1 line you will have at least a 10 point pilot.  That will make it much easier to grind the next line from that nation.  By the time you get to 10k battles you should have a 15 point pilot and a bunch of other good pilots that you used your free xp to get.

 

 

[Corsair4790805]

I'm at almost 3900 battles and have one 10 point pilot (my Corsair line pilot).   I have a couple of 9 pointers (one American in my Heavy Line, might be 10 now) and one in my German LF line.

 

I have a few other in the 6-8 skill points range.

 

It's a grind.  I doubt I'll ever see 15.

[RoIand]

12_inch_Hawk, on 23 January 2023 - 04:51 AM, said:

... you can get the 15 epic achievements in about an hour playing nothing but tier 4 planes and get the same 15 tokens.  If you can't get your tokens at tier 4 there is no point moving up to tier 5. 

 

...

Ace, Marseille, Golubev, Gabreski, Efimov upon request, in an hour and then also on T4 ?

That's unattainable, at least for me !
However, if I take my best planes from all tier levels and am not limited to one hour, about 7 tokens per evening are realistic for me.
If you play regularly, several hundred tokens come together.
But you're probably right that you shouldn't focus so much on daylies and tokens if you want to develop pilot skills.
Once the next plane is researched and the current one is specialized, I always put the pilot in a premium plane when I want to grind pilot skills. This brings another 20% more pilot experience points. Also you can use boosters.
However, I don't have the discipline to play one and the same plane continuously for a whole evening, I enjoy playing different planes more.
But in the end I pay for not having so many pilots with as many skill points...

Edited by RoIand, 23 January 2023 - 12:26 PM.

[pyantoryng]

My P.1101 pilot is 2 million away from 14th point and my best pilots are 11-12 points, no free EXP spent. I don't play in crazy amount, but playing for nearly 10 years it built up.

 

I can only sustain playing my P.1101 to that point because it gets results in mission grinding that I do, not because I have any special discipline or anything.

 

You might pop pilots from the rarer boxes or gain some from events to jumpstart with. Keep an eye out for them. They are rather useless to old players but may be of use for new players. They are quite rare and may require you to perfrom to a certain standard, though. You may be better off trying to build the pilots you have instead.

 

At any rate, it's much dedication to build just one pilot up to 15 point. Will it worth the fatigue, that is for you to decide.

 

 

[CorvusCorvax]

I think 14/15 point gunners are worth it.

My highest pilots have 12 points.  My highest gunner has 11 points.

[Mr_tool]

Maybe it would be great if weegee had some kind of event where the prize is a pilot with all the skills?? Or put a fully skilled pilot for sale in the shop??

 

A new player might have a better chance against a well seasoned player with a 12pnt pilot, as it stands the diiference in pilot skills is a huge disadvantage to new players.

 

The veteran player will still have an experience advantage.

Edited by Mr_tool, 23 January 2023 - 10:12 PM.

[cobra_marksman]

MARS_REVENANT, on 22 January 2023 - 09:29 PM, said:

I got fed up changing pilots, so ended up with several 12 and 13 point pilots, but have never made it to the full 15. I'm about 25% the way through my 13th skill, if I exchanged all 782,000 free exp, I would still be about 80,000 short of the 13th skill.  Not worth it IMO.

Couldn't have said it any better.... feel the same way .

[MARS_REVENANT]

cobra_marksman, on 24 January 2023 - 04:20 PM, said:

Couldn't have said it any better.... feel the same way .

 

I can see the appeal to grind full skill pilots for some people.  Unfortunately the game has become less about player skill, and more about the accumulation of pilot skill points, specialization of planes, enhancement, calibration and reassembly of equipment and consumables. Battles are being won and lost simply because of equipment.  The current state gives a false sense of bravado for those that think merely accumulating points = skill.

 

With no end game content to work towards, it really sucks for people that want to just log in and have a fun few battles.

Edited by MARS_REVENANT, 24 January 2023 - 10:29 PM.

[Zigfreid]

5-15 point pilots and 3-15 points rear gunners only 10 years of playing.

[cobra_marksman]

Zigfreid, on 24 January 2023 - 05:25 PM, said:

5-15 point pilots and 3-15 points rear gunners only 10 years of playing.

Wish that i could dedicate that much time and years to one game......Gratz....on all of those skilled pilots. 

But my wife would say something about being 2nd best to my flying game,.... lol

It a balancing act....and you know what they say......" If Mama Ain't Happy, Ain't Nobody Happy " 

Edited by cobra_marksman, 24 January 2023 - 11:01 PM.

[wylleEcoyote]

MARS_REVENANT, on 24 January 2023 - 05:25 PM, said:

 

I can see the appeal to grind full skill pilots for some people.  Unfortunately the game has become less about player skill, and more about the accumulation of pilot skill points, specialization of planes, enhancement, calibration and reassembly of equipment and consumables. Battles are being won and lost simply because of equipment.  The current state gives a false sense of bravado for those that think merely accumulating points = skill.

 

With no end game content to work towards, it really sucks for people that want to just log in and have a fun few battles.

Sure that is one way to look at it. But beating a spitfire by out turning it in another spitfire is like using sarcasm to be witty. 
 

By the same token starting up an EU reroll account and using stock tech tree planes with pilots struggling to have even 5 points.to stomp on Specialized flights in the low tiers is 

REALLY SATISFYING. 

Though it is less fun when the RU leming train rolls through and you are suddenly in a 1 v 5. 

Edited by wylleEcoyote, 25 January 2023 - 03:18 AM.

[CorvusCorvax]

wylleEcoyote, on 24 January 2023 - 07:18 PM, said:

Sure that is one way to look at it. But beating a spitfire by out turning it in another spitfire is like using sarcasm to be witty. 
 

By the same token starting up an EU reroll account and using stock tech tree planes with pilots struggling to have even 5 points.to stomp on Specialized flights in the low tiers is 

REALLY SATISFYING. 

Though it is less fun when the RU leming train rolls through and you are suddenly in a 1 v 5. 

I laughed out loud.

 

Yeah, pilot skill points don't mean anything if you don't have the experience to take advantage of their bonuses.

 

I have flown 5-skill pilots in my T9/10 planes and done just fine.  You just have to think about it more.

[Bubbles666]

12_inch_Hawk, on 23 January 2023 - 03:51 AM, said:

Once you specialize a plane and have the next plane researched you can click on accelerate crew training so all of your aircraft xp goes to your crew instead of building useless aircraft xp that you have to spend gold to convert to free xp than apply that free xp to your pilot.  You won't have a lot of aircraft xp to spend gold converting to free xp. 

Good to freaking know. Took me a few minutes to find that checkbox. Click on the Crew tab (opposite side from Hangar tab). It's there at the bottom of the little window.

I did not know that. 

I usually click on the crew pic over on the right side of the screen. Same info, but the "Accelerate Training" option is for coverting free xp to crew xp with gold, and not the use-plane-xp-to-train-up-crews button.

Boy will I be giving that a try.

Thanks much!

BB

[Corsair4790805]

Bubbles666, on 25 January 2023 - 12:25 AM, said:

Good to freaking know. Took me a few minutes to find that checkbox. Click on the Crew tab (opposite side from Hangar tab). It's there at the bottom of the little window.

I did not know that. 

I usually click on the crew pic over on the right side of the screen. Same info, but the "Accelerate Training" option is for coverting free xp to crew xp with gold, and not the use-plane-xp-to-train-up-crews button.

Boy will I be giving that a try.

Thanks much!

BB

 

Don't forget to check that box IMMEDIATELY upon getting a premium plane - otherwise you may quickly have 10,000 Aircraft XP on a plane that doesn't need it.

[Bubbles666]

Corsair4790805, on 25 January 2023 - 06:22 PM, said:

 

Don't forget to check that box IMMEDIATELY upon getting a premium plane - otherwise you may quickly have 10,000 Aircraft XP on a plane that doesn't need it.

Went through and did everything I had specced.

LOL Got plenty of that xp all over. 

BB

[Mr_tool]

Zigfreid, on 24 January 2023 - 10:25 PM, said:

5-15 point pilots and 3-15 points rear gunners only 10 years of playing.

Respect.