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Dirizon #1 Posted 19 September 2022 - 04:56 AM

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Can we have 1.9x return as a classic mode for 1 week a month? 1 week every 2 months? Like how World of tanks featured Classic.

I'd rather compete and test my mettle in dominance for 35 hours, than have to deal with this 22 IQ imbecile bot game going onward

 

If I wanted ''call of duty in air'' how about being honest and calling the game that. this is lame, isn't competition, and a shadow of what once was



RoIand #2 Posted 19 September 2022 - 08:24 AM

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They don't even have enough people to maintain and keep the current version of the game alive, and then they're supposed to launch a second version in parallel. How is that supposed to work? 

 

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And a little food for thought for all those who wish 1.9 back:
1.9 was replaced by 2.0 because too few played 1.9.
2.0 was supposed to attract more players to the game.
Whether that worked out as desired, everyone can answer for themselves.
1.9 was not replaced because it was so good, but because too few people played it.


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Anciano7 #3 Posted 19 September 2022 - 09:07 AM

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A 22 IQ bot game you should have no trouble being a 80% win rate pilot.seems to me that you are just mad at yourself for not being good at a game.loosen up pilot.o7

losttwo #4 Posted 19 September 2022 - 11:11 AM

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1.9 wthand heck NO. 

Rollthatsuckr back to 1.4 before all the mayhem destroyed this game. 

Back to 3 tier battles, 3 man flights. 

I would quit my job and go back to playing 12 hours a day like pre-release



Airman_No_23903 #5 Posted 19 September 2022 - 12:33 PM

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View Postlosttwo, on 19 September 2022 - 11:11 AM, said:

1.9 wthand heck NO. 

Rollthatsuckr back to 1.4 before all the mayhem destroyed this game. 

Back to 3 tier battles, 3 man flights. 

I would quit my job and go back to playing 12 hours a day like pre-release

Yes exactly - let's all go back through the time tunnel to the past of 1.4.
 
But for that to happen, everyone involved (developers, decision makers, and players/consumers/crybabies) would have to travel back in time to avoid the mistakes of the past with the knowledge of today.

Edited by Airman_No_23903, 19 September 2022 - 01:10 PM.


gerr22 #6 Posted 19 September 2022 - 01:16 PM

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i don t think MANY new players around would appreciate 1.4

Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #7 Posted 19 September 2022 - 02:06 PM

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View PostAirman_No_23903, on 19 September 2022 - 07:33 AM, said:

Yes exactly - let's all go back through the time tunnel to the past of 1.4.
 
But for that to happen, everyone involved (developers, decision makers, and players/consumers/crybabies) would have to travel back in time to avoid the mistakes of the past with the knowledge of today.

but...

you don't require a "time tunnel"

everything was saved on hard drives

doh!

a couple of smart programmers

could make this happen

yep,

the operative word/words aren't "time tunnel"

it's "could"

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edit: plus one to Dorizon and Lust2

and "the good observation award" to Gerrr

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Edited by Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo, 19 September 2022 - 02:09 PM.


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View PostDirizon, on 19 September 2022 - 04:56 AM, said:

Can we have 1.9x return as a classic mode for 1 week a month? 1 week every 2 months? Like how World of tanks featured Classic.

I'd rather compete and test my mettle in dominance for 35 hours, than have to deal with this 22 IQ imbecile bot game going onward

 

If I wanted ''call of duty in air'' how about being honest and calling the game that. this is lame, isn't competition, and a shadow of what once was

Hey XBK do you think you could squeeze this request in like on the 8th day of the week or during your off hours??  Hey maybe Michael Z could help you, yourself and you to get it done!!!!



CorvusCorvax #9 Posted 19 September 2022 - 03:13 PM

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View Postgerr22, on 19 September 2022 - 05:16 AM, said:

i don t think MANY new players around would appreciate 1.4

+1, brother.

I liked aspects of both games - and I really do consider them different games.

No, WG will never go back to 1.4.  Never.  In addition, there is not enough population to support even a weekend trial.

[loads up special weekend edition of Deathmatch in the Air]

 

"Your queue time is currently 13 minutes."

 

[grumbles]

 

[signs off to go post in the forum or on Discord]

Even if you pick the tier level that the majority of people are playing, the queue times are going to be in the 5-10 minute region.  For those who were not here for 1.x, that sort of thing did happen - long queue times, and if you were a potato, you spent most of your gaming time in the queue and not in the air.  Because I was a total potato in those days, I never played except when the population was high, so my queue time would be under 3 minutes.

 


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Cenotaph #10 Posted 19 September 2022 - 03:51 PM

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Right, take a game with it's population already on critical life support...

 

And further fragment it by introducing a mode to appease to a minority of loud, salty pilots that cannot perform like they did in the "Glory days"...

 

So, how are ya gonna populate matches?

 

Your thought process clearly ends with your wants, and ignores certain realities

 

 

Yeah, stick to tanks... or go play a game that already offers when you're looking for... I'm sure you can think of one.

 


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tdave1953 #11 Posted 19 September 2022 - 04:00 PM

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Never played earlier versions than 2 point something. In 1.4 there was no sector capture strategy--just kill enemy planes? Do I have that right?

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View Posttdave1953, on 19 September 2022 - 11:00 AM, said:

Never played earlier versions than 2 point something. In 1.4 there was no sector capture strategy--just kill enemy planes? Do I have that right?

 

http://forum.worldofwarplanes.com/index.php?/topic/55311-bubbas-trip-down-wowp-v123-memory-lane/

 

One iteration had a HQ for each side, surrounded by AA.   Destroy the opposing HQ, AA effect was cut drastically.  Also had ships that moved.  And you could effectively hide in a GA until the supremacy meter ran out, as long as you didn't hit ground targets and give your position away.

 

I like this end battle between two GA's:  http://forum.worldofwarplanes.com/index.php?/topic/55311-bubbas-trip-down-wowp-v123-memory-lane/page__st__20__pid__773111#entry773111



TeamTerrence #13 Posted 19 September 2022 - 06:28 PM

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Would have to say go with what worked when thousands of players were online every day

 

Everything from 1.5 and on hasn't brought the population back to what it was

 

Not sure what doesn't make sense about this ....and fear to admit mistakes is just as tubeheaded

 

 

View Postgerr22, on 19 September 2022 - 08:16 AM, said:

i don t think MANY new players around would appreciate 1.4

 

Learning from mistakes  ..... when 2.0 was released the remaining players were given the middle finger

 

You either stuck around or made sure the door didn't slam into your behind..... be good to the people who apply funds towards someone's paycheck

 

Attempting to make everyone happy is never easy but the old versions had a battle versus bots mode which could be replaced by version 2.0

 

Player stats would need a revision......1 for pvp mode and 1 for 2.0's conquest mode.

 

 

Make the changes or be happy with table scraps



RoIand #14 Posted 19 September 2022 - 06:53 PM

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View PostTeamTerrence, on 19 September 2022 - 07:28 PM, said:

 

Would have to say go with what worked when thousands of players were online every day

 

Everything from 1.5 and on hasn't brought the population back to what it was

 

Not sure what doesn't make sense about this ....and fear to admit mistakes is just as tubeheaded

 

 

 

Learning from mistakes  ..... when 2.0 was released the remaining players were given the middle finger

 

You either stuck around or made sure the door didn't slam into your behind..... be good to the people who apply funds towards someone's paycheck

 

Attempting to make everyone happy is never easy but the old versions had a battle versus bots mode which could be replaced by version 2.0

 

Player stats would need a revision......1 for pvp mode and 1 for 2.0's conquest mode.

 

 

Make the changes or be happy with table scraps

This is a completely new approach that you should think about intensively. 
PvP mode with bots and parallel the conquest mode as known from 2.0 with 2 separate player statistics.
I think they promised something like that a long time ago, but never managed to implement it.
I find that not so stupid. :medal:
And it still remains the open question whether they are still willing to invest and have enough people (developers and players) for it. :sceptic:
 

Edited by RoIand, 19 September 2022 - 07:09 PM.


Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #15 Posted 19 September 2022 - 06:56 PM

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are you proposing THREE POINT OH MY!

View PostTeamTerrence, on 19 September 2022 - 01:28 PM, said:

 

Would have to say go with what worked when thousands of players were online every day

 

Everything from 1.5 and on hasn't brought the population back to what it was

 

Not sure what doesn't make sense about this ....and fear to admit mistakes is just as tubeheaded

 

 

 

Learning from mistakes  ..... when 2.0 was released the remaining players were given the middle finger

 

You either stuck around or made sure the door didn't slam into your behind..... be good to the people who apply funds towards someone's paycheck

 

Attempting to make everyone happy is never easy but the old versions had a battle versus bots mode which could be replaced by version 2.0

 

Player stats would need a revision......1 for pvp mode and 1 for 2.0's conquest mode.

 

 

Make the changes or be happy with table scraps

3.oh my

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What was the reason given for changing so many things from 1.4?

 


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View PostBuffaloTime, on 19 September 2022 - 07:58 PM, said:

What was the reason given for changing so many things from 1.4?

 

Player attrition,
Decline in sales,
bad decisions.

Do you need more reasons or is that enough for now?
We can also comment on every single profound change in the history of this online game if you have enough time.



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View PostRoIand, on 19 September 2022 - 01:53 PM, said:

This is a completely new approach that you should think about intensively. 
PvP mode with bots and parallel the conquest mode as known from 2.0 with 2 separate player statistics.
I think they promised something like that a long time ago, but never managed to implement it.
I find that not so stupid. :medal:
And it still remains the open question whether they are still willing to invest and have enough people (developers and players) for it. :sceptic:
 

 

i don't have to think about anything

 

Pvp mode has no place for bots cuz then it wouldn't be pvp would it? :amazed:

 

Lack of players? heh.... they are out there.... Dracs, Aces, Wraiths, Sigmas, 3nincompoops, and others who still hang out together but on other games

 

So its down to WG and the desire to make a change from making nickels and dimes to something they once had


Edited by TeamTerrence, 19 September 2022 - 08:20 PM.


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View PostTeamTerrence, on 19 September 2022 - 11:31 AM, said:

 

i don't have to think about anything

 

That is (generally) a recipe for incorrect conclusions.

This idea that there is a waiting reservoir of tens of thousands of players just waiting for v1.4 to return is dubious, at best.


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I think the idea of a reversion to a previous form of the game is pie-in-the-sky thinking.  They won't even launch Bomber Escort Mode any more and that is an actual part of our current Conquest Mode.
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