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On June 29, from 01:00 PT / 04:00 ET to 05:00 PT / 08:00 ET, the servers will undergo maintenance to deploy an update of the game. Update 2.1.14 will bring a new Premium aircraft with an event dedicated to it, new supply crates, and much more!

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[Captain_Underpants53]

What exactly was busted about the two skills they 'fixed'?

[Marcellus_EU]

So with the addition of the THIRD premium heavy for the US at tier 6, can You maybe move the XP-54 a tier higher where it belongs? Thank You!
Also: F5F should be a tier 4 heavy, XP-50 a tier 5 (with it's speed adjusted).

[pyantoryng]

Captain_Underpants53, on 28 June 2022 - 05:44 PM, said:

What exactly was busted about the two skills they 'fixed'?

 

Negative modifiers will not be multiiplied anymore, so effectively a buff?

[XBK]

pyantoryng, on 28 June 2022 - 11:32 AM, said:

 

Negative modifiers will not be multiiplied anymore, so effectively a buff?

Exactly that.

Also, the P-38L page will come online tomorrow after the update goes live.

[qu33kKC]

a new P-38?????

 

I'm in.  Even though the L IRL had nothing of the sort to these in-game stuff. 

[Master_Cylinder]

Marcellus_EU, on 28 June 2022 - 10:51 AM, said:

So with the addition of the THIRD premium heavy for the US at tier 6, can You maybe move the XP-54 a tier higher where it belongs? Thank You!
Also: F5F should be a tier 4 heavy, XP-50 a tier 5 (with it's speed adjusted).

just learn how to shoot it down like everyone else!!!!!!

 

It is fine where it is.

[CorvusCorvax]

qu33kKC, on 28 June 2022 - 04:25 AM, said:

a new P-38?????

 

I'm in.  Even though the L IRL had nothing of the sort to these in-game stuff. 

Same.  If the speed and altitude performance is as good as the J, it might be more than just a collector's oddity.  If the altitude and speed are *better* then there is a legit reason to pick it over the XP-54 to fly as a choice.  I'd have to see how good the rockets are, and what Mary Lovehart could make the plane do.

[Master_Cylinder]

This is why the Pancake is not as good as it use to be, people did not want to learn how to take it out like I did and so they P*ssed and Moaned about it until they nerfed it.  I use to not be able to take out a Pancake with my BVP but now I can.  On the other hand I have revisited the Pancake and learned how to set it up so that it will almost do what it use to do.  It now has a glide number of 25 whereas the BVP210 number is only 20.  So I have gotten the Pancake back to where it should be.  I can now go from 400 feet to 7,000 feet without boost and with boost I can make it to just over 14,000.  That is floor to ceiling!!!!

 

Now I know that all of you have no idea what I mean by glide number but I use it to help me understand what I can do or not do in a plane as I am flying it and I will leave it at that for now.

 

 

[Master_Cylinder]

CorvusCorvax, on 28 June 2022 - 01:04 PM, said:

Same.  If the speed and altitude performance is as good as the J, it might be more than just a collector's oddity.  If the altitude and speed are *better* then there is a legit reason to pick it over the XP-54 to fly as a choice.  I'd have to see how good the rockets are, and what Mary Lovehart could make the plane do.

how many skill points do you have on Mary?  I have been at 15 for about 2 years now.

[CorvusCorvax]

Master_Cylinder, on 28 June 2022 - 05:11 AM, said:

how many skill points do you have on Mary?  I have been at 15 for about 2 years now.

I only have 11 points on her currently.  Eventually, she is going to be my Cutlass pilot.  But I'd like her to be able to run any of my American premiums.

[losttwo]

Marcellus_EU, on 28 June 2022 - 05:51 AM, said:

So with the addition of the THIRD premium heavy for the US at tier 6, can You maybe move the XP-54 a tier higher where it belongs? Thank You!
Also: F5F should be a tier 4 heavy, XP-50 a tier 5 (with it's speed adjusted).

 

Master_Cylinder, on 28 June 2022 - 07:50 AM, said:

just learn how to shoot it down like everyone else!!!!!!

 

It is fine where it is.

 

You know you need to learn to fly better when a player with 200 games calls you out.

 

Or I am posting so you can read my signature.

 

Personally, I have never had a problem against the Goose.

I can not say that about certain players, regardless of what they fly.

[_Bronze_]

losttwo, on 28 June 2022 - 11:03 AM, said:

 

 

You know you need to learn to fly better when a player with 200 games calls you out.

 

 

Cylinder is Farquare I believe.

 

It's hard to follow alts unless you make it easy, say like using characters from the same movie, or avatars with mutant chickens.

 

I even created my first EU alt last week...

[Lose_dudes]

qu33kKC, on 28 June 2022 - 12:25 PM, said:

a new P-38?????

 

I'm in.  Even though the L IRL had nothing of the sort to these in-game stuff. 

it was an expirimental version, as spirit said on discord

 

[qu33kKC]

Lose_dudes, on 28 June 2022 - 05:26 PM, said:

it was an expirimental version, as spirit said on discord

 

 

what tripped me up was the reference to 15mm guns, which I'd never heard of any such thing for American planes.  However, a bit later, a chunk of "oh, right" fell off a dusty memory shelf about testing .60 cal guns in a P-38.  Was able to find a few references that way.

 

insert "Americans will do anything to avoid using the metric system" memes here.

[losttwo]

_Bronze_, on 28 June 2022 - 11:53 AM, said:

 

Cylinder is Farquare I believe.

 

It's hard to follow alts unless you make it easy, say like using characters from the same movie, or avatars with mutant chickens.

 

I even created my first EU alt last week...

Yeah, but you did not have to let Marcellus know that

[wylleEcoyote]

hmm P-38 L with three 15mm guns?
I dunno. i feel sort of Meh about it.

Spoiler

The only 15mm guns not in a flexiible mount in game i am aware of is the ones on the Emil.
80 dps  a blazing 420 rpm and a range of 620 m.
As opposed to the 4x M2's it currently uses that does 62 dps with 800 rpm and a range of  594m  

So you loose 8dps but gain 25 meters of range. Soft stats include (slightly) better dispersion and a weapon that is better at dishing out crits than fire damage. 
assuming "better range " is what you want here then running a long gun barrel would give those 3x 15mm a range of 733 meters. 

Honestly i would prefer the Ma Deuce. their optimal range better matches up with the M10 cannon and its 510m range.  Sure i can already shoot you at 700 meters, but i loose half of my firepower when i do it.
 

Honestly the guns are a bit of a red herring tho.
It already carry 10 HVAR as is. Now it is gonna get more(!) somehow even if i cant see where they would go.
I guess they will mount flush to the wing instead of those reinforced Christmas trees it already uses.  Maybe both at the same time? 

Weird. But weird happens when you use experimental configurations. Its sort of the point.

Will i get it? oh heck yes. P-38s are the prettiest planes in my garage.  Legs for days and now with a(nother) massive rack of missiles?
Dont mind if i do. 

If I'm honest the P-38 had a lot of experimental models. So this completely made up one just as fine with me. 

Actually now that i think about it ...this could be really interesting.
I am speculating now that this premium variant

Spoiler

with the increased ordnance of no bombs only rockets ...
will loose its gun equipment slot and gain an ordinance slot instead.

no bombs just Rockets. So you can use a Rocket sight for max range and accuracy or damage shenanigans. 
OR Aero pylons for the same speed and maneuverability as if you were running slick (take THAT Goose drivers)
OR Reinforced Hardpoints for the ability to reload the rockets in less than 5 minutes.

All on the L model air frame so it is less likely to lawn dart when nosediving at 600+kph with Mary Loveheart on the stick for that double damage.

Getting an ordinance consumable slot would be the icing on the cake. with the right combo each rocket does half the damage of a 500lb bomb. (hlaf the blast radius too) so it can bring almost as much boom as a Do 217Mand solo a mining plant in one pass. 
But at what cost? an engine consumable or worse the Airframe consumable? ugh that is a harder nerf than you think.

No wait that is too much ... Lets be more realistic 

Spoiler

 its gonna have the same specialist layout as the Tigercat.   The P-38L will loose the extra engine slot for that Ordnance slot. 
Which makes engine slot selection a much harder choice. 
Climb rate or airspeed or maneuverability you only get one.
As difficult as that Ordnance choice.

[CorvusCorvax]

wylleEcoyote, on 28 June 2022 - 11:01 AM, said:

hmm P-38 L with three 15mm guns?
I dunno. i feel sort of Meh about it.

Spoiler

The only 15mm guns not in a flexiible mount in game i am aware of is the ones on the Emil.
80 dps  a blazing 420 rpm and a range of 620 m.
As opposed to the 4x M2's it currently uses that does 62 dps with 800 rpm and a range of  594m  

So you loose 8dps but gain 25 meters of range. Soft stats include (slightly) better dispersion and a weapon that is better at dishing out crits than fire damage. 
assuming "better range " is what you want here then running a long gun barrel would give those 3x 15mm a range of 733 meters. 

Honestly i would prefer the Ma Deuce. their optimal range better matches up with the M10 cannon and its 510m range.  Sure i can already shoot you at 700 meters, but i loose half of my firepower when i do it.
 

 

Hmmm, imma gonna say you mean tech tree?  The Do-335 and B&V P.203 both have 15mm cannonz. 

 

6 Ma Deuce with the current buffs does sound really juicy, not gonna lie.  

 

Maybe the big rack(s) that you're thinking of will just be the same racks, but now with moar inboard racks, with 3 each side?

 

It'll be interesting to see - no new model to draw, so all there is to do is print money, da?

 

[Captain_Underpants53]

XBK, on 28 June 2022 - 07:00 AM, said:

Exactly that.

Also, the P-38L page will come online tomorrow after the update goes live.

Thank you for the conformation.

 

[GonerNL]

Lose_dudes, on 28 June 2022 - 06:26 PM, said:

it was an expirimental version, as spirit said on discord

 

Experimental ?

The P-38L was the most numerous variant of the Lightning, with 3,923 built,

 

https://en.wikipedia...ng#P-38J,_P-38L

 

EDIT: aha, it was only just one P-38L with that loadout. And it did "not go beyond unsuccessful trials". Typical Wowp plane ...

 

 

 

Edited by GonerNL, 28 June 2022 - 09:14 PM.