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Captain_Underpants53 #61 Posted 10 August 2022 - 05:28 PM

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I see a pattern every so (too) often where I get down tiered in repeated consecutive battles, my high tier team mate is a potato, and we get the floor wiped with us.  Coming in at #1 over and over under those conditions is small consolation.  I am stuck in that pattern this day.
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I did a potato thing last night.

 

I decided to take the Bf 109 F out on its maiden flight, but before that I was comparing my 109 E to it to get some feel for the differences.  I had moved my 8 point 109 E pilot to the 109 F, and taken the 109 F's 0 point 50% proficient pilot for the E.

 

Once I finished the comparison, I hit battle.   Dropped in pretty quick (2v2), took a look at the teams, and saw there was a human Ar-2 on my team.   Tier IV.  Huh....that's odd....what's a Tier IV doing in a battle where I'm flying a Tier VI?

 

Except I wasn't.  I still had the 109 E selected when I clicked battle, and had dropped my fully kitted and spec'd Emil into battle with a 0 point 50% pilot.  :facepalm:

 

Beau and A6M2 on red.

 

We won, I took 1st place with Grade III and HoTS.

 

Then I flew the 109 F and got my rear handed to me....repeatedly.   Six times.   Top tier every time.   That tells me a lot about the "fun" I'm going to have mastering the F....



wylleEcoyote #63 Posted 12 August 2022 - 08:53 PM

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the 109 F will out-fly everything it sees.
(assuming ultimate gear. There are ALOT of people in tier 6. And many of them have been around long enough to grind out a set of ultimate equipment or three) 
But it is fragile enough that defensive turrets HURT.
And its firepower is  ... barely enough to kill other light fighters,
Get by on securing other peoples kills. 

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is on par with my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
 I start on the right track and then sometimes make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 

Specialist Planes earned: Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:  Germans? All of them. I-17Yak-1MiG-3, La-5
Ki-5/8/10/27/43-I/43-II, A4N, A5M, A6M1/2/3/5, Hurricane Ia, Bristol 146, Spitfire I/Ia/Vb IM, DH.100 F1,
F2A-1,FJ-1, P-23/36/36C/39N-1/40 /51A/D/H, XF15C/-85XP-31/36F/55, YP-29Hawk 75M, Model 81A-1,  

MultiRole Fighters: Type 91, P-12/26/35/43, XP-44/72, P-47B/N, F11C-2, F2A, F4F/U-1, 
Rule Britannia, Deutschland uber alles, I-5/15/16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: F5F, P-38 F/J, XP-54/58/75, F7F, P-82 B, Beaufighter/ V,  All of zeGermans, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: BSh-2, All of zeGermans, Wirraway
Bombers: B-17 G, Do 17 Z / 217 M, He 111 H2, Ju 288 C, EF 131, Pe-2 

 


CorvusCorvax #64 Posted 12 August 2022 - 09:19 PM

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View PostwylleEcoyote, on 12 August 2022 - 12:53 PM, said:

the 109 F will out-fly everything it sees.
 

I prefer the P-51A - climb rate and altitude performance are the reasons.


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wylleEcoyote #65 Posted 13 August 2022 - 12:45 AM

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Fair point. Allow me a counterpoint. The differences between the two are small enough that equipment and skill selection can make liars of both of us.

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is on par with my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
 I start on the right track and then sometimes make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 

Specialist Planes earned: Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:  Germans? All of them. I-17Yak-1MiG-3, La-5
Ki-5/8/10/27/43-I/43-II, A4N, A5M, A6M1/2/3/5, Hurricane Ia, Bristol 146, Spitfire I/Ia/Vb IM, DH.100 F1,
F2A-1,FJ-1, P-23/36/36C/39N-1/40 /51A/D/H, XF15C/-85XP-31/36F/55, YP-29Hawk 75M, Model 81A-1,  

MultiRole Fighters: Type 91, P-12/26/35/43, XP-44/72, P-47B/N, F11C-2, F2A, F4F/U-1, 
Rule Britannia, Deutschland uber alles, I-5/15/16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: F5F, P-38 F/J, XP-54/58/75, F7F, P-82 B, Beaufighter/ V,  All of zeGermans, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: BSh-2, All of zeGermans, Wirraway
Bombers: B-17 G, Do 17 Z / 217 M, He 111 H2, Ju 288 C, EF 131, Pe-2 

 


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View PostwylleEcoyote, on 12 August 2022 - 12:53 PM, said:

the 109 F will out-fly everything it sees.
(assuming ultimate gear. There are ALOT of people in tier 6. And many of them have been around long enough to grind out a set of ultimate equipment or three) 
But it is fragile enough that defensive turrets HURT.
And its firepower is  ... barely enough to kill other light fighters,
Get by on securing other peoples kills. 

 

I slapped ultimate gear (gunsight, LPU) on it last night and took it out for 2 battles.   I think that, as well as being fully upgraded, and good situational awareness really helped.   It's defnitely nimble enough (it woun't out turn a Spit or a Zero, but I held my own against a Mustang Mk !A in the vertical before it was fullly upgraded).

 

Turret fire is tres dangerous for thsi plane.   I lost almost 2/3rd of my health going after a bomber with good turrets.   

 

Overalll, I'm starting to warm up to the plane overall.  It's still not an Emil, but I think I won't be too frustrated with the grind to the Gustav.

 

Oh....and many eons ago Corvus told me this is one of the planes that you have to hold your fire until your closer than you would expect.   That seems to be my experience as well (with only 12 battles).   



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View PostCorsair4790805, on 12 August 2022 - 07:36 PM, said:

 

I slapped ultimate gear (gunsight, LPU) on it last night and took it out for 2 battles.   I think that, as well as being fully upgraded, and good situational awareness really helped.   It's defnitely nimble enough (it woun't out turn a Spit or a Zero, but I held my own against a Mustang Mk !A in the vertical before it was fullly upgraded).

 

Turret fire is tres dangerous for thsi plane.   I lost almost 2/3rd of my health going after a bomber with good turrets.   

 

Overalll, I'm starting to warm up to the plane overall.  It's still not an Emil, but I think I won't be too frustrated with the grind to the Gustav.

 

Oh....and many eons ago Corvus told me this is one of the planes that you have to hold your fire until your closer than you would expect.   That seems to be my experience as well (with only 12 battles).   

Yup.  The MGs are much shorter range than the hub cannon.  Wait until you are in range of all the guns, then mash the trigger.


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CorvusCorvax #68 Posted 29 August 2022 - 06:13 PM

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Flying my P-51D, I got saddled with a B-17G player who literally did nothing the whole battle.  Got shot down 4 times, destroyed one ground target, captured one sector.

At the end of the battle, I asked him if he was AFK.  No, first time in a bomber.  Not merely first time in a 17G, first time, period, because free XP.

Oh.  Em.  Gee.

We won anyway because I flew so beyond my capabilities that I shocked myself.  6 caps, 19 kills, four tokens - or, more likely, the two humans on the other team were only slightly less potato than my guy, just good enough to top the red team scoreboard.

The battle right after, the one where I needed one enemy aircraft kill to get spec?  Bottom tier, paired with a Vampire on the Albion map with 4 garrisons and the central Airbase.  I help him take the airbase, and tell him to defend it, and I'll run around and cap garrisons.  Almost as soon as I'm out of the Airbase, he gets shot down by a bot Hornet, and the red human in a Typhoon caps the Airbase.  Okay, I can still run around and cap garrisons and we can still win, even if Vampire dude is a total potato.  

What happened next is a tribute to every potato player, ever.  I am capping the garrison nearest our spawn.  The dude flies from the spawn, and immediately flies *right through me* to kill an ADA - which, if he had left alone, I would have killed to take the cap.

Luckily, I respawn in 7 seconds, and go to the garrison next-nearest our spawn, and take it, then proceed to the 4th garrison to flip it blue.  Meanwhile, Vampire-boy has gone to the middle to die.  I cap the 4th garrison, and the points are finally starting to build up in our favor.  So, I go to the middle to find a lone ADA to cut from the herd and whittle the capture clock down from full red.  Squall line hits.  I see my guy turning with an ADA and quickly free him up by killing the ADA.  I shoot straight up to go after a HF ADA that is below 25% HP to flip the cap for superiority.  The Vampire bro shoots me down, then gets killed directly after by an ADA.  The red team then goes on to flip two of the garrisons that were just hanging on, and red wins 800-795.

My Vampire potato scores all of 6k PP.

I had to ask him why he shot me down.  Yup, because I "stole his kill".  Uh, bruh - you ran through my plane and killed me to steal a kill earlier...

Sometimes, the potatoes are just out to make you day harder than it has to be.  Whatever, I got my one red kill, got Spec on my 51D, and took it for a glorious 17k PP win right after that - shooting down a spec B-32 guy twice.

The Mustang line is now REALLY strong with the .50cal buff, folks.
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CorvusCorvax #69 Posted 06 September 2022 - 03:47 PM

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Events also bring out the potatoes.  And the wallet warriors.

I have seen more human-powered Me-410s in the last four days than I have in the last four months.  Almost every T6 battle has one.  And I am assuming because they are running Herr Schneider.

Sometimes it helps the person flying the plane, and sometimes not.  The Me-410 still turns like a supertanker, and has only "pretty good" speed.  It will get eated by planes that can out-accelerate it (which is pretty much everything) if it whiffs on the first pass and doesn't dive-boost with maximum GTFO.  Since I have been flying my Japanese planes (to get wins to activate the 6-point pilot I just buyed), I have flown the A6M3 (exp.), Ki-61, Ki-45 and Ki-102 a LOT.  Get your shots in before that Ki-102 gets past you, because once you get into a turning battle with one, your 410 is DED.  There are a LOT of people that feel that the new special pilot will make the Me-410 invincible, but folks, the First Rule of Heavy Fighters is still in effect.  When I am shooting you down in my premium Zero, you're flying too low, and too slow. 

In this particular episode of "Potato? Who, Me?", I got to play the lead role flying my J7W2.  Top tier, two-Plant, central Airbase map.  Everywhere I was, the red human F-82E was there to make sure I wasn't anymore.  I swear he knew exactly where I was going every time.  Getting shot down 4 times in one battle is a GIANT potato effort.

I served as a decoy at least, because the RB-17 driver on my team just went around and cap, cap, capped his way to a 20k PP battle.  He was the hero, and I was the rotten potato he carried.  Salute to you, Mr. RB-17 pilot - my hat is off to you!  My 4200 PP were such an embarrassment that I quit the game for the night.  LOL@me.

Edited by CorvusCorvax, 06 September 2022 - 03:48 PM.

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The Japanese planes in this game from T8-T10 were all very frustrating for me. It is not easy to contribute with them to win the game. 
Here on the NA server, I therefore stopped at T7.


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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 06 September 2022 - 10:47 AM, said:

In this particular episode of "Potato? Who, Me?", I got to play the lead role flying my J7W2.  Top tier, two-Plant, central Airbase map.  Everywhere I was, the red human F-82E was there to make sure I wasn't anymore.  I swear he knew exactly where I was going every time.  Getting shot down 4 times in one battle is a GIANT potato effort.

 

I'm not sure what to tell you there, aside from to work on your situational awareness. You should have been able to outfly him in most situations outside of maybe an extended steep climb (and only then if he started with good speed and more boost available) as long as you see him coming. His guns are enough to ruin your plane pretty quick but you're faster and more maneuverable, not to mention better armed as long as you aren't using stock guns. It sounds like you weren't watching out and getting ambushed. 

 

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View PostFlushmaster, on 07 September 2022 - 02:52 AM, said:

 

I'm not sure what to tell you there, aside from to work on your situational awareness. You should have been able to outfly him in most situations outside of maybe an extended steep climb (and only then if he started with good speed and more boost available) as long as you see him coming. His guns are enough to ruin your plane pretty quick but you're faster and more maneuverable, not to mention better armed as long as you aren't using stock guns. It sounds like you weren't watching out and getting ambushed. 

 

The minimap is your friend.

LOL.

BnZ is *the* tactic I use with all my HFs.  the F-82E has T10 guns, is faster, and has a higher hit point pool.  Other than flying within 50m of the ground, there is nothing to be done about a HF pilot who wants you dead.  I have been on the other end of that scenario thousands of times.  Even flying super-low only delays the inevitable.

I have had some pretty good battles with my J7W planes.  And talented HF drivers really are few and far between.  This guy got nearly 18k PP, so it's not like he was just flying around.

One other thing to keep in mind is that the J7Ws, in general, have really good turn, but only when they are slow.  Their acceleration is not very good, and the guns don't have a ton of effective range. (500-600m is really the max range on these guys, without LGB and MM1+MM2).  So, you have a choice, slow down and turn, or keep your speed up and not turn very well.  That is also a strength of the F-82E - it has VERY good turn for a HF.  Almost as good as a P-51H.  With the proper equipment and pilot skills, I could see the F-82E surprising pretty much every T8/9 MRF.  OK, not the Tempest with it's massive yaw ability, but still...

It was a match-up where he used the abilities of his plane better than I used the abilities of my plane.  Add to that the fact that we seemed to have the very same sector priority, and it was not my battle. 

But hey, I appreciate the "have you tried capping?" advice.  LOL


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Anciano7 #73 Posted 10 September 2022 - 09:49 AM

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I wonder if weegee made the training room free would that equate to less taters?

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Trying to do the Albrecht Schneider missions and specialize my P-40.


Damn.  "Hey, bro, could you stop trying to turn with Spitfires down below 500m?  In your P-38F?  Thanks!"  "That LBSh is a great plane, but it's not a dogfighter, so please stop that and go attack some ground targets, mmmmkay?"

 

Pop a 17k PP battle, 5 caps, but a loss, because my team is dying faster than I can cap.

 

Spec B-17G on my team, gets all of 2200PP destroying one whole ground target, all battle.

 

Sigh.

Being bottom tier 65% of the battles played today hasn't helped any.  But I object to being bottom tier and still outscoring my entire human team, combined.
 


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Anciano7 #75 Posted 12 September 2022 - 09:16 AM

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Like I said, Make the training room free,(stop with all the in game currency sinks} If its free then people who play for fun and dont care will have a good place to play.A free training room WILL cut down on potatoes in the game. 

 

Give it a shot weegee and see what happens.



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Last night, 2v2, me in my IL-8 and another player in a Spitfire XIV.  2 MP, 2 CC, central garrison.

 

The flag drops, and I mosey over towards the mining plant.   Spit driver zooms over and starts strafing.

 

Message him in chat to not strafe the mining plant.  To his credit, I think he got the message, but his side trip to do his NOT job delayed as getting the CC until late in the game, with a predictable outcome.

 

*sigh*



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I got so frustrated with the Tater Tots playing the high tiers (on my team of course) that I moved on down where I expect to see bunches of don't-know-what-to-do players.
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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 23 September 2022 - 08:14 AM, said:

I got so frustrated with the Tater Tots playing the high tiers (on my team of course) that I moved on down where I expect to see bunches of don't-know-what-to-do players.

Yup.

I have some Period I stuff to do for tokens.  I guess I'll whip out my big...












 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

FW-57 and see if I can grab those tokens.


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I even flew 3 battles in a row with my specialized and fully upgraded BF109B.
Somehow it did not fly as smoothly as usual ?!
Then I finally realized that I had a 50% pilot from a premium plane sitting in the cockpit....
Oh, what a potato I was myself.... :facepalm::P:hiding:

Postscript:
I immediately threw the 50% premium pilot out of the plane without a parachute.:D


Edited by RoIand, 06 October 2022 - 09:41 PM.


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View PostRoIand, on 06 October 2022 - 01:32 PM, said:

I even flew 3 battles in a row with my specialized and fully upgraded BF109B.
Somehow it did not fly as smoothly as usual ?!
Then I finally realized that I had a 50% pilot from a premium plane sitting in the cockpit....
Oh, what a potato I was myself.... :facepalm::P:hiding:

Postscript:
I immediately threw the 50% premium pilot out of the plane without a parachute.:D

 

I did that with my Bf 109 E when I was getting ready to start the F grind.    Still managed to take first and win the battle even with a 50% pilot in it :)

 






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