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Air_Defense_Aircraft #1 Posted 31 December 2021 - 04:47 PM

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I have purchased three Extreme 3D Pro joysticks recently (2 from Amazon, 1 from Best Buy) All three exhibit the same behavior. The forward firing guns stop firing when maneuvering, release the trigger and press again it resumes firing but quits again as soon as I maneuver. My current 3D Pro purchased approximately 9 months ago works perfectly. Has anybody else experienced this or not with a new 3D Pro?

 

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'NEW" is a relative term.  I would not say a 9 month old 3D Pro was new.  I have to replace mine at around somewhere in the 6 to 12 month range.  Of course, a lot depends on how frequently you fly.
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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 31 December 2021 - 12:08 PM, said:

'NEW" is a relative term.  I would not say a 9 month old 3D Pro was new.  I have to replace mine at around somewhere in the 6 to 12 month range.  Of course, a lot depends on how frequently you fly.

Hi Pants, I usually get about six months use out of one, My current one is 9 months old and getting sloppy, the new ones that have the problem were all purchased within the last three weeks and all had the same problem right out of the box.


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Troubleshooting so far...

If anybody has any other ideas let me know

 

Tried different USB ports

Tried different computer

Checked Driver (Best Driver Installed Message)
Calibrated the joystick
Uninstalled / reinstalled Logitech gaming software
Cleared game cache
Launched game in safe mode
Reset game settings to default and reconfigured
Use button on keyboard to fire - Problem does not occur
Use button on Joystick base or trigger to fire - Problem occurs
Tested in Star Wars Squadrons - Problem does not occur
Started ticket with Logitech, they suggested it was a Warplanes issue but offered to replace it.
Tried to start a ticket with Warplanes but they don't have a support section for this type of problem.


Edited by Air_Defense_Aircraft, 31 December 2021 - 05:54 PM.


Captain_Underpants53 #6 Posted 31 December 2021 - 09:13 PM

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It does sound like a WG problem.  I have found in the past that when my 3D Pro starts acting wonky, that it could be failing, but just as often, it is the game.  I keep a seviceable spare to swap out and double check the problem. 

 

If that doesn't correct it, I uninstall the game.  Then I clean the registry with CCleaner to get rid of the numerous junk stuff the uninstaller leaves behind.  Then I reboot the puter and download game again.  Back in bidness!


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Jeez!  It's been many, many, many years since I could even see all them little fiddly bits, let alone put it all back together.  Maybe I shouldn't have wasted my misspent youth on wine, wimmin and song.
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View PostAir_Defense_Aircraft, on 31 December 2021 - 12:15 PM, said:

Hi Pants, I usually get about six months use out of one, My current one is 9 months old and getting sloppy, the new ones that have the problem were all purchased within the last three weeks and all had the same problem right out of the box.


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Sounds like a loose wire or intermittent short where moving the stick causes the connection to break temporarily.

 

I vaguely recall having to resolder a wire in my 3D pro for the trigger button.  After the twist rudder sensors stopped working right I "upgraded" to a Saitek X52 that broke within the 30 day return period and then to a Thrustmaster M16000 that has held up better for a couple years, but I have still had to take it apart to fix 3 different failures- two broken wires and a broken trigger switch.  Is it really that hard to make a quality joystick?!!!  Seriously- why don't they put $2 more into them to use a thicker gauge wire and bundle it so it doesn't get caught in pinch points.



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Whenever I buy mine I get the 5 buck insurance plan. That way I get 2 for less. They do not last long. 
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View PostAir_Defense_Aircraft, on 31 December 2021 - 11:49 AM, said:

Troubleshooting so far...

If anybody has any other ideas let me know

 

Tried different USB ports

Tried different computer

Checked Driver (Best Driver Installed Message)
Calibrated the joystick
Uninstalled / reinstalled Logitech gaming software
Cleared game cache
Launched game in safe mode
Reset game settings to default and reconfigured
Use button on keyboard to fire - Problem does not occur
Use button on Joystick base or trigger to fire - Problem occurs
Tested in Star Wars Squadrons - Problem does not occur
Started ticket with Logitech, they suggested it was a Warplanes issue but offered to replace it.
Tried to start a ticket with Warplanes but they don't have a support section for this type of problem.

I have the same problem. Uninstalled game, cleared registry. Reinstalled, used files from here to delete preferences and controls from here: https://eu.wargaming.../article/10628/

I reinstalled the game two times.

Nothing worked. In windows joystick properties test it works. I didn't try it in other games though, I need it for this one. Old Logitech worked good for 8 months, until rudder twist broke. I replaced it under warranty with new one.

New one has this problem mentioned above - stops shooting when maneuvering. I don't recommend Logitech Extreme 3d Pro anymore.

Trying to get used to new Thrustmaster t flight x.

Maybe Thrustmaster usb drivers interfere with Logitech. I don't know. I might try to plug Extreme 3d pro in another computer, where nothing was plugged in except mouse and keyboard with fresh install of WoWP.

Update: Tried in another game  and on another computer and in WoWP. The same problem. Logitech defective joystick confirmed. I might contact Logitech.


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View Postegikov, on 07 March 2022 - 11:52 AM, said:

I have the same problem. Uninstalled game, cleared registry. Reinstalled, used files from here to delete preferences and controls from here: https://eu.wargaming.../article/10628/

I reinstalled the game two times.

Nothing worked. In windows joystick properties test it works. I didn't try it in other games though, I need it for this one. Old Logitech worked good for 8 months, until rudder twist broke. I replaced it under warranty with new one.

New one has this problem mentioned above - stops shooting when maneuvering. I don't recommend Logitech Extreme 3d Pro anymore.

Trying to get used to new Thrustmaster t flight x.

Maybe Thrustmaster usb drivers interfere with Logitech. I don't know. I might try to plug Extreme 3d pro in another computer, where nothing was plugged in except mouse and keyboard with fresh install of WoWP.

Update: Tried in another game  and on another computer and in WoWP. The same problem. Logitech defective joystick confirmed. I might contact Logitech.

 

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I resolved my issue by moving the circuit board located in the base from an old stick to one of the new sticks, Fixed the problem completely. The issue with the faulty sticks is definitely in electronics

 



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View PostAir_Defense_Aircraft, on 07 March 2022 - 03:08 PM, said:

 

I resolved my issue by moving the circuit board located in the base from an old stick to one of the new sticks, Fixed the problem completely. The issue with the faulty sticks is definitely in electronics

 

That is really, really interesting. There might be a market for older model circuit boards. Wish I have saved mine, but after going through 3, I took them to electronics recycling and went back to mouse/kb.



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View PostBobby_Tables, on 08 March 2022 - 12:07 AM, said:

That is really, really interesting. There might be a market for older model circuit boards. Wish I have saved mine, but after going through 3, I took them to electronics recycling and went back to mouse/kb.

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Try this if you still have any joystick.

In Settings assign buttons only to the joystick or to the keyboard, don't put alternative buttons in the second column. I think if you put keyboard buttons and joystick button on the same function something stops working. I think the game does not like alternative buttons.



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try this....put the joystick in your closet and hook up a mouse.

that hack worked out great for me,,o7


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View Postpainintheglute, on 22 March 2022 - 07:38 AM, said:

try this....put the joystick in your closet and hook up a mouse.

that hack worked out great for me,,o7

 

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Edited by SkyWolf__WM, 19 January 2023 - 09:27 PM.

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