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The Tier 6 Heavy Fighter "FIX" Hasn't Worked

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Trauglodyte #1 Posted 21 November 2021 - 07:45 PM

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Since the patch, I've seen nothing, to indicated that anything has changed.  What's worse, my last 5 games have featured, at least, a single Me 410 (one game) or an XP-54, as top tier.  In this last game, my side has a flight of them and the opposing side had one too.  In this game, the opposing XP-54 was a complete donkey but still willed himself into getting 6k PPs versus 16k and 11k by my team's 2x Geese.  None of this is to say that this sample size is worthwhile.  But, short of one game that I can remember, EVERY game that I've seen, with these two Heavies, have been them sitting at top tier.  It'll be interesting to see what WarGaming does, if anything, with the data post change.


Since I am not WarGaming and my data is small on scale, what is it that you all are seeing?  I should note that this is only the second game, that I've actually seen a human Me 410.  Obviously, the hordes of XP-54 hasn't changed and really has exploded, with the November challenge.

RoIand #2 Posted 21 November 2021 - 09:26 PM

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There are too few T7s flying. That's why the XP-54 still gets into T6/5 battles. :sceptic:

Most of the players are just mediocre. It's good to be part of the majority and by now I don't want anything else.

Captain_Underpants53 #3 Posted 21 November 2021 - 09:35 PM


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I have seen one battle where the goose was bottom tier.  I have given up trying to count the battles where they were top tier because there has been so many.


I agree that their 'fix' is bogus.

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Bluegoose02 #4 Posted 21 November 2021 - 09:46 PM

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Play against me I spend most of my time on the lower tier and that was before the patch.

Dennez #5 Posted 21 November 2021 - 10:21 PM

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i agree,ive been seeing alot of the xp-54 in tier 5.

ive been flying the venom & wildcat and the last 3 days it seems im against one every other match up.

it is an extemely hard plane to win against not impossible but hard,just a little to hard.

and when you get 2 flighted swooses forget about winning that battle.

i cant wait to get one.:playing:

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CorvusCorvax #6 Posted 22 November 2021 - 03:35 AM


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My clan mate and I were flying T7 the other day and saw Geese in the sky.  Still good, but not roll-your-face-on-the-keyboard good.

losttwo #7 Posted 22 November 2021 - 05:38 AM

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what do you expect with only a 10% chance of being bottom tier

SpiritFoxMY #8 Posted 22 November 2021 - 06:09 AM


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I mean, like a couple of people've said: the only thing this MM tweak does is make it less enjoyable to fly the Goose - it does nothing to make it more enjoyable to fly against it.

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wylleEcoyote #9 Posted 22 November 2021 - 09:30 AM

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 22 November 2021 - 01:09 AM, said:

I mean, like a couple of people have said: the only thing this MM tweak does is make it less enjoyable to fly the Goose - it does nothing to make it more enjoyable to fly against it.


Perhaps  it is time for the OP to make that jump to tier 7?

Better minds than myself have put forth the idea that; aside from tier 1, it is the most balanced tier in game. Including premiums
I tend to agree with the theory.
Aside from the basic rock->paper->scissors-> lizard -> spock system of hard counters due to plane type; tier 7's are remarkably even matched. Within themselves.
Any particular weakness in one area is an indication of particular strengths elsewhere.  This is even true for the teir 7 premiums.

Otherwise the tier can be best summed up as "that set of planes that fly too fast and high for tier 6 and too slow and low for tier 8"

Which is also the way of things for the rest of the game to tier 10. (premiums are a different matter) So get used to it. 

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is on par with my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
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Light Fighters:  zeGermans? All of them. I-17Yak-1MiG-3, La-5
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trikke #10 Posted 22 November 2021 - 01:20 PM


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or....   don't nerf it at all, but add a 24 hour timer      only can fly it once a day, but it's completely unnerfed


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