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losttwo #1 Posted 17 July 2021 - 01:43 PM

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Someone had made a comment about the Curtis Model-81 tier 4 premium. 

Here are some of my recent matches. 

Early modification of the P-40, also known as the Curtiss Model 81A-1. A total of 199 aircraft of this modification were built.

Aircraft Description
Parameter Average per sortie Total
Aerial Targets Destroyed 3.18 655
Ground Targets Destroyed 0.00 0
Damage Caused to Aerial Targets 688.37 141,804
Damage Caused to Ground Targets 9.11 1,875

 

I sit with a 57.61% win rate with the particular plane. After 92 battles. Average experience per battle is 1,070.

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qu33kKC #2 Posted 17 July 2021 - 01:57 PM

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Best employed by strafing Mining Plants.

 

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losttwo #3 Posted 17 July 2021 - 02:19 PM

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View Postqu33kKC, on 17 July 2021 - 08:57 AM, said:

Best employed by strafing Mining Plants.

 

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:teethhappy::teethhappy::teethhappy::teethhappy: 

 

OMG  I just now noticed. 

Ground target damage 9.11...really, NO WAY


Edited by losttwo, 17 July 2021 - 02:24 PM.


trikke #4 Posted 17 July 2021 - 02:29 PM

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gj, but it's not in my wheelhouse      but i do love the p-40
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12_inch_Hawk #5 Posted 17 July 2021 - 02:55 PM

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View Postlosttwo, on 17 July 2021 - 09:19 AM, said:


:teethhappy::teethhappy::teethhappy::teethhappy: 

 

OMG  I just now noticed. 

Ground target damage 9.11...really, NO WAY

9.46 for me.  I even somehow managed to destroy 7 ground targets.  Look out mines here I come lol


Edited by 12_inch_Hawk, 17 July 2021 - 02:56 PM.


losttwo #6 Posted 17 July 2021 - 03:42 PM

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View Post12_inch_Hawk, on 17 July 2021 - 09:55 AM, said:

9.46 for me.  I even somehow managed to destroy 7 ground targets.  Look out mines here I come lol

Suppose we should work on getting them up to 49 for historical accuracy 



Sink_Stuff #7 Posted 17 July 2021 - 03:52 PM

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So do you have any advice about this plane? A recommended build for it? Or are you just making fun of Patton's constant "WTH this plane is OP" posts every time he tries to justify flying the XP-54 to himself. 

CorvusCorvax #8 Posted 17 July 2021 - 03:53 PM

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View Postlosttwo, on 17 July 2021 - 02:19 PM, said:


:teethhappy::teethhappy::teethhappy::teethhappy: 

 

OMG  I just now noticed. 

Ground target damage 9.11...really, NO WAY

Don't we all do that, tho?  You're going from one side of the cap to the other, and there's an unarmored segment of a GT left - kill it to turn the capture clock more blue.  Or all the way.  Or you're there at the mine to support a GAA or bomber friend.  Hey, that AA gun is being a pain, and MGs kill those guys OK, so...

 

I don't think I have a light fighter that doesn't have at least one GT kill due to finding targets of opportunity like that.

 

No, you don't attack GTs on purpose,  but ground-pounding happens, right?



losttwo #9 Posted 17 July 2021 - 04:38 PM

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View PostSink_Stuff, on 17 July 2021 - 10:52 AM, said:

So do you have any advice about this plane? A recommended build for it? Or are you just making fun of Patton's constant "WTH this plane is OP" posts every time he tries to justify flying the XP-54 to himself. 

 

Advice for this plane. 

Speed build and do not target fixate on 1 particular plane until it is destroyed. 

This plane takes a lot of awareness and shooting multiple targets. 

 

View PostCorvusCorvax, on 17 July 2021 - 10:53 AM, said:

Don't we all do that, tho?  You're going from one side of the cap to the other, and there's an unarmored segment of a GT left - kill it to turn the capture clock more blue.  Or all the way.  Or you're there at the mine to support a GAA or bomber friend.  Hey, that AA gun is being a pain, and MGs kill those guys OK, so...

 

I don't think I have a light fighter that doesn't have at least one GT kill due to finding targets of opportunity like that.

 

No, you don't attack GTs on purpose,  but ground-pounding happens, right?

 

I am one of the first people that will tell a person that it is OK to shoot  ground targets. 

Just surprises me that I have any in this plane with how weak it truly is. 

I am sure the damage comes from those moments of attacking GAA in neutral sectors

But attacking a Mining Plant in this particular plane ? Nope, that is definitely a fail idea. 

TO risky to go after bombers or GAA when they are at the mining plant, unless you have good support. 

There are more important targets to engage. Such as the Military or Command sectors. 

Even holding the central airfield on the 2 Mining plant 2 garrison map is a higher priority.

Holding the airfield gives your team the central launch point. 

But do not use the same tactic in a different plane. 

I would not use the same tactic in lets say the I-16 type 29. 



CorvusCorvax #10 Posted 17 July 2021 - 08:45 PM

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View Postlosttwo, on 17 July 2021 - 04:38 PM, said:

 

Advice for this plane. 

Speed build and do not target fixate on 1 particular plane until it is destroyed. 

This plane takes a lot of awareness and shooting multiple targets. 

 

 

I am one of the first people that will tell a person that it is OK to shoot  ground targets. 

Just surprises me that I have any in this plane with how weak it truly is. 

I am sure the damage comes from those moments of attacking GAA in neutral sectors

But attacking a Mining Plant in this particular plane ? Nope, that is definitely a fail idea. 

TO risky to go after bombers or GAA when they are at the mining plant, unless you have good support. 

There are more important targets to engage. Such as the Military or Command sectors. 

Even holding the central airfield on the 2 Mining plant 2 garrison map is a higher priority.

Holding the airfield gives your team the central launch point. 

But do not use the same tactic in a different plane. 

I would not use the same tactic in lets say the I-16 type 29. 

Absolutely situational, and plane-dependent.  CC and MB, airbases where the GTs are mostly unarmored and there is no handy nearby plane to attack, garrisons where there is one tent left right here, but the nearest ADA is 900m over there.

 

And with this plane, your options are even more limited.  I was thinking about my Spit Ia, and if that plane has a GT mark.  Those guns are REALLY not suited for GT work.  Or my Me-209V4.  There is no reason for that plane to be lower than 800m, and those weak guns would take forever to do anything.

 

I might have to scroll through my LFs to see which ones actually do have any GT damage.



qu33kKC #11 Posted 17 July 2021 - 09:21 PM

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@Sink_Stuff, this is regards to a different post, where OP was whinging on about MM because he took this plane up against a Tier V Spit.  If losttwo can make it work, more power to him.

 

 



Captain_Rownd #12 Posted 18 July 2021 - 03:11 AM

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One thing that is INDISPUTABLE among All Right-Thinking People is that this game needs MOAR P-40s!  (and P-36s)  Just can't get enough!  

 

  

 


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Lampigss #13 Posted 18 July 2021 - 07:27 AM

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I like this plane (Model 81) and fly quite often.

It is a tier four  P40 with smaller  mechine guns. I specialised it in "speed" built, to hunt heavy fighter, AA , bomber and MF.

 

My figues are:

Average target destroyed per sortie: 3.37

Total aerial targets destroyed : 1025

Ground targets destroyed: 0

Total damage caused to aerial targets: 230551,

Total damage caused to ground targets: 148

 

Win ratio: 62.5%

Battle played: 131

Average experience: 1229

 

 


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Sink_Stuff #14 Posted 18 July 2021 - 10:06 AM

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After looking up many players in the hall of fame it seems that most players choose to play the following planes at tier 4

 

Bf 110-B

Bf 109-B

Blenheim F

I-17

Bf 110-C

 

Any other plane was far less often played. Instead, these players chose to play tier 5 far more often than tier 4. As well, it seems that for doing period one missions some of these players even chose tier 2 or 3 more often than tier 4. It seems like tier 4 is a tier most often avoided in favor of other tiers of play.

 


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losttwo #15 Posted 18 July 2021 - 10:51 AM

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View PostSink_Stuff, on 18 July 2021 - 05:06 AM, said:

After looking up many players in the hall of fame it seems that most players choose to play the following planes at tier 4

 

Bf 110-B

Bf 109-B

Blenheim F

I-17

Bf 110-C

 

Any other plane was far less often played. Instead, these players chose to play tier 5 far more often than tier 4. As well, it seems that for doing period one missions some of these players even chose tier 2 or 3 more often than tier 4. It seems like tier 4 is a tier most often avoided in favor of other tiers of play.

 

 

I have been venturing down to tier 2 and 3 to work on token missions and finish specializing 

premium planes. 

I also prefer the C-714 at tier 4 but that is my secret plane, so do not tell anyone. 

Mostly I fly what I need based on the token missions and how fast they get the job down. 



qu33kKC #16 Posted 18 July 2021 - 11:05 AM

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View PostCaptain_Rownd, on 18 July 2021 - 03:11 AM, said:

 

One thing that is INDISPUTABLE among All Right-Thinking People is that this game needs MOAR P-40s!  (and P-36s)  Just can't get enough!  

 

  

 

 

My P-36 is my most-flown non-heavy.  Absolutely love it.  I don't fly the P-40 much, but it can certainly do work.



egikov #17 Posted 19 July 2021 - 02:53 AM

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Suggestions for Curtiss Model-81:

1. You don't have to fly it.

2. Put Universal or Gold ammo in it, make it turn better with equipment and a pilot and skills - kill light bots on airfields.

There are other tier 4 premium US light fighters that are a lot better: 

1. Grumman XF4F-1

2. Curtiss XP-36F



Panoptic #18 Posted 19 July 2021 - 04:45 PM

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Curtis P-40 is lethal. 81A-1 has the same secret sauce.

crzyhawk #19 Posted 21 July 2021 - 05:49 PM

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I dislike the XP-40.  It's alright, but I don't enjoy flying it, and am not intimidated by it in the slightest.  2 50s isn't enough imo.

 


losttwo #20 Posted 21 July 2021 - 06:08 PM

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View Postcrzyhawk, on 21 July 2021 - 12:49 PM, said:

I dislike the XP-40.  It's alright, but I don't enjoy flying it, and am not intimidated by it in the slightest.  2 50s isn't enough imo.

Yeah ...well my pilot will be your pilot up after squall line:P







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