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Content_WG #1 Posted 16 July 2021 - 11:42 AM

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_Bronze_ #2 Posted 16 July 2021 - 12:14 PM

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Will it show up on our profile now?  When can we expect the XP-54 Swoose Goose and B-29C to be listed as well?

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View Post_Bronze_, on 16 July 2021 - 06:14 AM, said:

Will it show up on our profile now?  When can we expect the XP-54 Swoose Goose and B-29C to be listed as well?

 

The Skyrocket was first available back in December and could be earned similar to the B-29C and XP-54 via Operational Order or buy certificates.  This is the first time the Skyrocket has been available for purchase via Premium Shop.  Eventually they will sell the XP-54 and the B-29C will follow suit.



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View PostThorondar, on 16 July 2021 - 10:22 AM, said:

 

The Skyrocket was first available back in December and could be earned similar to the B-29C and XP-54 via Operational Order or buy certificates.  This is the first time the Skyrocket has been available for purchase via Premium Shop.  Eventually they will sell the XP-54 and the B-29C will follow suit.

 

Has nothing to do with my question. (I can see how it reads though)

 

I got the Skyrocket back in November/December (different account), and it does NOT show up under our Profile page , nor does the recent Swoose, or the current B29C.  Also, the Achievements section doesn't contain the icon(s) either.

They are listed if you go to the clan portal and select your user.

 

I believe the Bristol Beaufighter V is the last properly added plane (looking at your profile since I don't have it on any of my accounts).  I see you have both F/P82's (I didn't realize there were two)  One of yours is listed as:

 

And your achievements section:

 

If you got the Rocket, I would assume this icon would be listed under the event? (if not above?): https://worldofwarplanes.com/news/crimson-dawn/

or not, and the Swoose would be listed with the rest shown above with this icon (and maybe the B-29C?):

 

 

But maybe they're revamping the site.  This is where communication comes in, although they get in trouble when they do (like return of anniversaries).

 

Maybe this has been brought up before and I'm not aware.  Patience they say....soon...but it's not like they've never added aircraft or events to the web portal.  A December 2020 event.  I procrastinate too, but...:facepalm:  Whom updates the NA website and what's the issue?


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Corsair4790805 #5 Posted 16 July 2021 - 07:35 PM

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Yep, I've noticed this as well.   The data is also not available in the data dictionary backing the API, and several of the entries there have place_holders as well.  That hasn't been updated since December 2019.

trikke #6 Posted 16 July 2021 - 09:04 PM

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i got the f5f last year...   flew it a few times and then shelved it        i had just decided my other T5 heavies were better

 

then Thorondar flew it in SNL        by a stroke of luck, we spawned in side-by-side at the same time at the beginning        i was in the 210

 

side-by-side for about 2 ticks, then he pulled away and just left me in the dust    i boosted, but never got close     those but-tugly things are fast

 

and... are you here, but you need to be way up there?      point the nose up, and you're way up there, in just a few seconds

 

twice the identical bombs as the T6 xp-50      i like the xp-50's twin 20mms / twin 50cals, but i love the bigger, longer range twin 23s on the f5f

 

same hitpoints on the T5 and the T6  =  300       not nearly enough for a T6 heavy, imo, but they're both lightweight spinners

 

almost the same top speed    exactly the same stall speed       the T6 xp-50 would be more competitive in T5     the T5 f5f is more competitive

 

i screwed on some long barrels and now it's a T5 fav


Edited by trikke, 16 July 2021 - 09:07 PM.

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Sink_Stuff #7 Posted 16 July 2021 - 09:26 PM

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Right Trikke?

 

Tier 5 has very good heavy fighters, very good light fighters, but rather mediocre everything else. So what class benefits the most from everything else being meh? That's right heavy fighters. Tier 5 was practically made for heavy fighters and since there is only one heavy fighter in at tier 5 that can out turn this F5F then that means that this premium plane certainly has a place. Fun, and works. 



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prob talking about the ki-45       

 

yep, it turns almost a second faster      and it's got that huge 37, and a 20

 

but it's noticeably slower = 100 kph slower, with almost 1000 ft lower service ceiling, and dismal 80 climb vs the 110 for the f5f

 

but hey, they're both great planes, in the right hands         potato  potahto


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View Post_Bronze_, on 16 July 2021 - 11:28 AM, said:

 

Has nothing to do with my question. (I can see how it reads though)

 

I got the Skyrocket back in November/December (different account), and it does NOT show up under our Profile page , nor does the recent Swoose, or the current B29C.  Also, the Achievements section doesn't contain the icon(s) either.

They are listed if you go to the clan portal and select your user.

 

I believe the Bristol Beaufighter V is the last properly added plane (looking at your profile since I don't have it on any of my accounts).  I see you have both F/P82's (I didn't realize there were two)  One of yours is listed as:

 

And your achievements section:

 

If you got the Rocket, I would assume this icon would be listed under the event? (if not above?): https://worldofwarplanes.com/news/crimson-dawn/

or not, and the Swoose would be listed with the rest shown above with this icon (and maybe the B-29C?):

 

 

But maybe they're revamping the site.  This is where communication comes in, although they get in trouble when they do (like return of anniversaries).

 

Maybe this has been brought up before and I'm not aware.  Patience they say....soon...but it's not like they've never added aircraft or events to the web portal.  A December 2020 event.  I procrastinate too, but...:facepalm:  Whom updates the NA website and what's the issue?

 

 

Ah, my apologies as I misread your original question.  Yes there are 2 Twin Mustang Premiums, the P-82B was first with the fourteen 50 cal guns, 10 rockets and 2 bombs.  The F-82E came out later and has only six 50 cals and only 5 rockets and 2 bombs and has the potential to be faster and more turny than the B model and it is not displayed right on the page you pulled my stats from.  I prefer to fly my B model plus I went with a speed build and got the speed at 91, not bad for a T8 with two props.


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View Posttrikke, on 16 July 2021 - 03:04 PM, said:

 

i got the f5f last year...   flew it a few times and then shelved it        i had just decided my other T5 heavies were better

 

then Thorondar flew it in SNL        by a stroke of luck, we spawned in side-by-side at the same time at the beginning        i was in the 210

 

side-by-side for about 2 ticks, then he pulled away and just left me in the dust    i boosted, but never got close     those but-tugly things are fast

 

and... are you here, but you need to be way up there?      point the nose up, and you're way up there, in just a few seconds

 

twice the identical bombs as the T6 xp-50      i like the xp-50's twin 20mms / twin 50cals, but i love the bigger, longer range twin 23s on the f5f

 

same hitpoints on the T5 and the T6  =  300       not nearly enough for a T6 heavy, imo, but they're both lightweight spinners

 

almost the same top speed    exactly the same stall speed       the T6 xp-50 would be more competitive in T5     the T5 f5f is more competitive

 

i screwed on some long barrels and now it's a T5 fav

 Thank you Trikke, the one draw back everyone complains about with the F5F (and I agree) is the guns.  You spend a LONG time trying to kill a target but they heat up slowly.  I used to have Long Range Barrels but changed to gas operated to hopefully kill targets more quickly.  My speed on the F5F is at 60 and I can BnZ in it pretty good.



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View PostThorondar, on 16 July 2021 - 07:57 PM, said:

 You spend a LONG time trying to kill a target but they heat up slowly.  I used to have Long Range Barrels but changed to gas operated to hopefully kill targets more quickly.  

 

this last few weeks, i've spent most of my battles in high tiers, trying to get used to the higher speed of everything      it's not exactly going well

 

but when i do come back down to midtier, it seems like every plane takes forever to kill now         those high tier guns are phenomenal

 

wonder why i can take a high tier bomber down from full heath faster with only six 20mms, than i can with four 30mms in the HGlll?


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the 20s hit way more often than the 30's if i had to hazard a guess.
But the 30's hurt more when they hit...

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The Madsens' stink, big time. The Russian 23mm are almost as bad except for a few select planes, 

 

Would I buy this one? Yes, if I want another hangar queen. It might be fast, but I strongly dislike the early US attempts at cannons.



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View PostThorondar, on 16 July 2021 - 06:57 PM, said:

 Thank you Trikke, the one draw back everyone complains about with the F5F (and I agree) is the guns.  You spend a LONG time trying to kill a target but they heat up slowly.  I used to have Long Range Barrels but changed to gas operated to hopefully kill targets more quickly.  My speed on the F5F is at 60 and I can BnZ in it pretty good.



There is the rub. the ability for the 23 mm to reach out and touch someone at tier 5 is amazing compared to the machingun ranges one gets used to in lower tiers. 
So at first when you fly a P-38 and its one cannon lets you engage from 600 meters  you forget about the 4 HMGs that dont work until 500~ish meters. 
You get used to engaging at long ranges at full speed and doing what a P-38 do..

Then the Specialist P-38 uses a 37mm canon with the same range as those HMGs. And ALL the 1.x players cried at the loss of their beautiful Marsdens.
The 37mm 's terrible range forcing you to get close and actually slow down enough to stay on target long enough to delete the target without over shooting.
   
So for those players you get the F5F. Same agility. Monster Climb rate. And you get to trade off from 1 marsden and 4 HMGs you werent using anyway for Two Marden cannons.  
and ordinance you just ignore (just like the P-38 of old!)  Its Great!  Perfect for popping those pesky light fighters from a comfortable distance.

 


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 I start on the right track and then sometimes make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 

Specialist Planes earned: Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:  zeGermans? All of them. I-17Yak-1MiG-3, La-5
Ki-5/8/10/27/43-I/43-II, A4N, A5M, A6M1/2/3/5, Hurricane Ia, Bristol 146, Spitfire I/Vb IM, DH.100 F1,
P-23/36/36C/39N-1/40 /51 A/D, XP-31/36F/55, Hawk 75M, Model 81A-1XF15C

MultiRole Fighters: Type 91, P-12/26/35/43, XP-44, P-47B/N, F11C-2, F4F/U-1, 
Skua, Hurricane I/II/D, Tornado, Typhoon, Sea Hawk, All of zeGermans, I-5/15/16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: F5F, P-38 F/J, XP-54/58/75, F7F, P-82 B, Beaufighter/ VAo 192, Fw 57, Bf 110 B/C-6/E, Me 410, Bf 109 Z, Do 335 A-1, BV P.203, Me 262/ HG II, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: BSh-2, All of zeGermans, Wirraway
Bombers: B-17 G, Do 17 Z / 217 M, He 111 H2, Ju 288 C, EF 131, Pe-2 

 


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View PostThorondar, on 16 July 2021 - 06:52 PM, said:

 

 

Ah, my apologies as I misread your original question.  Yes there are 2 Twin Mustang Premiums, the P-82B was first with the fourteen 50 cal guns, 10 rockets and 2 bombs.  The F-82E came out later and has only six 50 cals and only 5 rockets and 2 bombs and has the potential to be faster and more turny than the B model and it is not displayed right on the page you pulled my stats from.  I prefer to fly my B model plus I went with a speed build and got the speed at 91, not bad for a T8 with two props.

 

It's just the web portal, in game shows the achievements.

 

 

Disappointing they've let the web portal lag behind this badly. :(






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