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trikke #1 Posted 30 June 2021 - 03:26 PM

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can't find any WG info anywhere...     have we seen a spec sheet yet?

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The opinion on the Discord at the moment seems to be that the plane will have horrifying defensive firepower (potentially up to 720dps if you come at it wrong) but a much more restrictive bombload than the Ju-288C. So basically a cancer plane that might not really be super meta but extremely annoying to deal with on certain maps.

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NugNugget #4 Posted 30 June 2021 - 04:20 PM

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Yeah, I clicked on the link in the update info too

I just looked again and there are like 11nty billion links



SpiritFoxMY #5 Posted 30 June 2021 - 04:34 PM

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Huh. Only four equipment slots. On a tier 8.

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wylleEcoyote #6 Posted 30 June 2021 - 06:48 PM

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 30 June 2021 - 11:34 AM, said:

Huh. Only four equipment slots. On a tier 8.


any more and you get trouble. Airframe, Engine, Turret, and Ordnance. and NO cockpit.
 

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one air frame.
Reinforced airframe seems obvious  (+24% hit points for 3,100 in total)  
buuuut  

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one engine slot. that could go in a few directions. and while one is better than none getting a second would really open up your options a bit too well. 
 

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 Turrets. they already seem like OP cancer even stock 

So its a question of what kind of cancer do you want to be? 

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Ordinance. well this is a no brainer that any bomber player will tell you. ​

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Edited by wylleEcoyote, 30 June 2021 - 11:44 PM.

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is on par with my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
 I start on the right track and then sometimes make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 

Specialist Planes earned: Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:  zeGermans? All of them. I-17Yak-1MiG-3, La-5
Ki-5/8/10/27/43-I/43-II, A4N, A5M, A6M1/2/3/5, Hurricane Ia, Bristol 146, Spitfire I/Vb IM, DH.100 F1,
P-23/36/36C/39N-1/40 /51 A/D, XP-31/36F/55, Hawk 75M, Model 81A-1XF15C

MultiRole Fighters: Type 91, P-12/26/35/43, XP-44, P-47B/N, F11C-2, F4F/U-1, 
Skua, Hurricane I/II/D, Tornado, Typhoon, Sea Hawk, All of zeGermans, I-5/15/16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: F5F, P-38 F/J, XP-54/58/75, F7F, P-82 B, Beaufighter/ VAo 192, Fw 57, Bf 110 B/C-6/E, Me 410, Bf 109 Z, Do 335 A-1, BV P.203, Me 262/ HG II, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: BSh-2, All of zeGermans, Wirraway
Bombers: B-17 G, Do 17 Z / 217 M, He 111 H2, Ju 288 C, EF 131, Pe-2 

 


Martymart1976 #7 Posted 30 June 2021 - 06:59 PM

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Suprised its not the Tu 4 on the Russian server. At the end of WW2, some of our B-29s were forced to land in Russia due to flak/fighter damage over Japan. The planes were interned, and the crews were allowed to "escape". Stalin had his engineers disassemble one B-29 and reverse engineered it from the ground up. It was then called the Tu-4 and served with the VVS for a number of years as their 1st nuclear capable bomber. Saw a show about it when i was a kid.

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The B 29 in that clip ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnEiDiTrRKw ) seems to be flying lowish.

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trikke #9 Posted 30 June 2021 - 09:05 PM

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2500 hit points       jeez       does anything have the same, or more hp stock?

 

that...     will take a while

 

edit:     and we were 'concerned' about the goose       we had no idea what unbalanced looked like

 

what's the consensus?      send a bot in first with F4, then follow it in?


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pirat262 #10 Posted 30 June 2021 - 09:54 PM

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The only problem with the new  bomber tier 8 that is not so fast and agile as the german and the soviet ones specially the rb but it has much more bomb power, but another question is the reload time if it is no so fast as the other tier 8 bombers is that it will be easy to shoot down with the special fighters and heavy fighters that are from tier 8, but the good thing is that with one pass you can take 2 earth bases but as I say is not very agile and slow but the plane is just a beauty  

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trikke #11 Posted 30 June 2021 - 10:21 PM

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it's majestic      

 

what if you concentrated all your fire onto one wing?       that was a thing in WT long ago, but i dunno


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View Posttrikke, on 30 June 2021 - 04:05 PM, said:

2500 hit points       jeez       does anything have the same, or more hp stock?

 

that...     will take a while

 

edit:     and we were 'concerned' about the goose       we had no idea what unbalanced looked like

 

what's the consensus?      send a bot in first with F4, then follow it in?

 

Thats a good way to kill a bot trikke. 

My thoughts on this from another thread. The TL;DR is as follows. 
Part one: Be a heavy and Dont get shot in the first place.
Part two No really dont get shot because if you do this is what can happen 


Tricks for handling the the B-29. 
Part one


 

However it may not be possible (for what ever reasons) to avoid the defensive fire zones. So what then? 
On to part two. 
 
The Mathematics of Pain

If you want to avoid all that suffering I recommend learning how to do a vertical scissors maneuver so that you are constantly moving into and out of individual turret zones of fire. 
Each time you leave one zone the turret takes 4+ seconds to select another target (and is not shooting at anything) Each time you enter another zone it will take 4+ seconds to lock on to you (unless it has something else to shoot at) 
Which will save your life if you find yourself stuck inside the no fly zone of a B-29.  
Soooo be careful pilots

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is on par with my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
 I start on the right track and then sometimes make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 

Specialist Planes earned: Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:  zeGermans? All of them. I-17Yak-1MiG-3, La-5
Ki-5/8/10/27/43-I/43-II, A4N, A5M, A6M1/2/3/5, Hurricane Ia, Bristol 146, Spitfire I/Vb IM, DH.100 F1,
P-23/36/36C/39N-1/40 /51 A/D, XP-31/36F/55, Hawk 75M, Model 81A-1XF15C

MultiRole Fighters: Type 91, P-12/26/35/43, XP-44, P-47B/N, F11C-2, F4F/U-1, 
Skua, Hurricane I/II/D, Tornado, Typhoon, Sea Hawk, All of zeGermans, I-5/15/16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: F5F, P-38 F/J, XP-54/58/75, F7F, P-82 B, Beaufighter/ VAo 192, Fw 57, Bf 110 B/C-6/E, Me 410, Bf 109 Z, Do 335 A-1, BV P.203, Me 262/ HG II, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: BSh-2, All of zeGermans, Wirraway
Bombers: B-17 G, Do 17 Z / 217 M, He 111 H2, Ju 288 C, EF 131, Pe-2 

 


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Good writeup there, Wylle! Just wanted to add - that 4 seconds time is for the automatic gunners, right? If the player wants to shoot you, those times are dramatically decreased. I could be wrong as I'm not a bomber main, but I notice a big difference between guns targeting in and out of turret mode on my SU-10 and B-32.

 

 

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wylleEcoyote #14 Posted 30 June 2021 - 11:40 PM

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That is heavily dependent upon skill and equipment selection and plane type. 
According to the great turret nerf introduced by the us bomber line the B-32 has the longest base automatic lock on time in game of 4 seconds. I can not imagine WeeGee changing its mind about that  with the B-29.
other planes with turrets have smaller lock on times.
I think Attackers are the lowest at 1 second with Heavies at 2 and non american bombers at 3 seconds...  but it has been a while so i dont remember exactly.

a quick over view of the options are as follows.
Gunner skill Quick Reflexes. reduce aim time (manual and automatic) by 50%  This is the biggest one by far.
Turret laying drive +5% to +34% aim time reduction. (also comes with +15% burst length or +15% rate of fire increase. which gets pretty nasty in american bombers)
Or 
amounting a turret gunsight has as bonus skills up to 15% reduction of aim time "When Manually Aimed"

while im talking about the turrets if you choose to ignore aim speed modifications you can gain range instead.
use the gunner skill Ballistics expert for a 10% increase in range that is always working. (perfect for that bot that gets away with 9 hit points left) 
 
With the turret gunsight you can have as much as 20% extra gun range against the target you are aiming manually at. (when you are mad at that one particular guy)  
In the case of a B-29 that is paying attention to you it will start shooting you from as much as 920 meters away.
While its tail gunner can hit you from 1,105 meters away. 
 

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is on par with my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
 I start on the right track and then sometimes make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 

Specialist Planes earned: Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:  zeGermans? All of them. I-17Yak-1MiG-3, La-5
Ki-5/8/10/27/43-I/43-II, A4N, A5M, A6M1/2/3/5, Hurricane Ia, Bristol 146, Spitfire I/Vb IM, DH.100 F1,
P-23/36/36C/39N-1/40 /51 A/D, XP-31/36F/55, Hawk 75M, Model 81A-1XF15C

MultiRole Fighters: Type 91, P-12/26/35/43, XP-44, P-47B/N, F11C-2, F4F/U-1, 
Skua, Hurricane I/II/D, Tornado, Typhoon, Sea Hawk, All of zeGermans, I-5/15/16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: F5F, P-38 F/J, XP-54/58/75, F7F, P-82 B, Beaufighter/ VAo 192, Fw 57, Bf 110 B/C-6/E, Me 410, Bf 109 Z, Do 335 A-1, BV P.203, Me 262/ HG II, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: BSh-2, All of zeGermans, Wirraway
Bombers: B-17 G, Do 17 Z / 217 M, He 111 H2, Ju 288 C, EF 131, Pe-2 

 


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View PostwylleEcoyote, on 30 June 2021 - 03:40 PM, said:


In the case of a B-29 that is paying attention to you it will start shooting you from as much as 920 meters away.
While its tail gunner can hit you from 1,105 meters away. 
 

A screen from youtube stream shows a bit higher number



wylleEcoyote #16 Posted 01 July 2021 - 12:45 AM

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That you tuber also had a turret gunsight mounted. This would affect numbers . 

Or i just forgot to carry a two. :facepalm: that does happen from time to time.

 


Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is on par with my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
 I start on the right track and then sometimes make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 

Specialist Planes earned: Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:  zeGermans? All of them. I-17Yak-1MiG-3, La-5
Ki-5/8/10/27/43-I/43-II, A4N, A5M, A6M1/2/3/5, Hurricane Ia, Bristol 146, Spitfire I/Vb IM, DH.100 F1,
P-23/36/36C/39N-1/40 /51 A/D, XP-31/36F/55, Hawk 75M, Model 81A-1XF15C

MultiRole Fighters: Type 91, P-12/26/35/43, XP-44, P-47B/N, F11C-2, F4F/U-1, 
Skua, Hurricane I/II/D, Tornado, Typhoon, Sea Hawk, All of zeGermans, I-5/15/16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: F5F, P-38 F/J, XP-54/58/75, F7F, P-82 B, Beaufighter/ VAo 192, Fw 57, Bf 110 B/C-6/E, Me 410, Bf 109 Z, Do 335 A-1, BV P.203, Me 262/ HG II, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: BSh-2, All of zeGermans, Wirraway
Bombers: B-17 G, Do 17 Z / 217 M, He 111 H2, Ju 288 C, EF 131, Pe-2 

 


trikke #17 Posted 01 July 2021 - 02:06 AM

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that russian guy just ruled the skies       there will be guys here equally as strong, very soon         

 

i wonder if it's in the training room yet?

 

edit:   it is not in the training room


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pirat262 #18 Posted 01 July 2021 - 02:31 AM

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these planes that can shoot the new tier 8 north american bomber from long distance and close too :

 

https://worldofwarpl...anes/ussr/tu-1/

 

https://worldofwarpl...rmany/do-335a1/

 

https://worldofwarpl...ermany/bv-p203/

 

https://worldofwarpl...germany/ho-229/

 

https://worldofwarpl...germany/ta-152/

 

https://worldofwarpl...anes/usa/p-82b/

 

https://worldofwarpl...planes/usa/f5u/

 

https://worldofwarpl...es/japan/ki-93/

 

https://worldofwarpl...estland-p-1056/

 

https://worldofwarpl...nes/china/jl-1/

 

all in specialist far better

 

and others more too but this one can hunt it because it's speed

 

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 30 June 2021 - 11:34 AM, said:

Huh. Only four equipment slots. On a tier 8.


Are you sure?  All the bombers on tiers VIII, IX, and X currently have 5 equipment slots.


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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 01 July 2021 - 06:05 PM, said:

Are you sure?  All the bombers on tiers VIII, IX, and X currently have 5 equipment slots.

 

Unless they change it before release yes. You can see it in the first 3 - 4 minutes of the youtube stream I linked where the Russian commentator mentions that it has the same number of equipment slots as the B-32, not the RB-17

 

(around the 3:55 mark)


Edited by SpiritFoxMY, 01 July 2021 - 10:42 AM.

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