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Captain_Underpants53 #1 Posted 15 March 2021 - 09:24 PM

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........ restore 3 man flights and remove split tier flights at the same time?  If there is one thing lacking in this game it is coordination and cooperation with random players.
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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 15 March 2021 - 03:24 PM, said:

........ restore 3 man flights and remove split tier flights at the same time?  If there is one thing lacking in this game it is coordination and cooperation with random players.

 

Looks good here, but 3 man flights (I am for them) would do lots more damage to new pilots and whiners than split tiering ever would/did.  If WG had the creativity and ability to increase wildly the number of human pilots and have more than one iteration of this game, then I would be for both at the same time, or at least have events where one or both are allowed.

 

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View PostWhoaBlackBetty, on 15 March 2021 - 04:27 PM, said:

 

Looks good here, but 3 man flights (I am for them) would do lots more damage to new pilots and whiners than split tiering ever would/did.  If WG had the creativity and ability to increase wildly the number of human pilots and have more than one iteration of this game, then I would be for both at the same time, or at least have events where one or both are allowed.

 

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You make a valid point. Maybe get rid of split-tiering and re-add 3 (or even 4) player flights at tier 8+?

 

 

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View PostGeorgePatton, on 15 March 2021 - 03:37 PM, said:

 

You make a valid point. Maybe get rid of split-tiering and re-add 3 (or even 4) player flights at tier 8+?

 

 

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None of any of these suggestions are going to happen, we know this.  It all goes back to the human population.  Until that is priority #1 to WG, we cannot truly know if any of these will work or not.

 

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3 man flights pair well with 12 human pilots per side, like chardonnay with those expensive weird crackers

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I could see a demand for three player flights, though it would be intimidating if you're on a non-flighted side.   I don't mind split-tiering, though I see it rarely.

 

I would love to see more clan functionality, like the ability to have multiple players from your clan enter the same battle on the same side - maybe as part of a clan wars mode?

 

I know this is all pipe dreaming at the moment.....



losttwo #8 Posted 15 March 2021 - 11:05 PM

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While I applaud your suggestion I regret to inform you that it. Well, You know the 2 soldiers that arrive at the door.

We had 3 man flights and more complaint threads than your battle count. 

So many whiners complained about 3 man flights being OP that it was eliminated in 1 point something or other after 6

 

Most of the great things about this game have been eliminated by Marko's, Wrongway's, Topsights and 

many others conspiracy theorizing karen types 

All in the name of balance and fairness. 

 

I would love to see 3 man flights return as well as 2 tier difference. 

I do miss using a tier 4 and attacking tier 6 planes. 

I am feeling nostalgic 

Here watch this 3 man flights are OP

 

Here is 1 that has a tier 3 versus tier 5

The pilot is actually RBLazis flying the Skua . No clue why losttwo is labeled in the bottom left

 


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View PostCorsair4790805, on 15 March 2021 - 09:56 PM, said:

I could see a demand for three player flights, though it would be intimidating if you're on a non-flighted side.   I don't mind split-tiering, though I see it rarely.

 

I would love to see more clan functionality, like the ability to have multiple players from your clan enter the same battle on the same side - maybe as part of a clan wars mode?

 

I know this is all pipe dreaming at the moment.....

 

I agree with you. I'd rather have a game mode that allowed for non random 6x6 or whatever NxN size than seeing 3 player flights. In fact, such an arrangment would be of great benefit to me since all I'd have to go against would be window lickers and bots - since the good/average/not-so-bad/bad-but-not-bottom-of-the-barrel players would probably be playing with their clanmates in the grownups playground - , which might mean I'd get a win every 3rd battle.


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I disagree with three man flights because that would mean I'd have to find a third man for my flights and I'm grumpy and antisocial.

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Also if you and the boys wanna get together and crack open some cold ones in Cold Peak ... you just have to settle for a Training room.

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losttwo #12 Posted 16 March 2021 - 07:26 AM

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Lets touch on some reality around the subject. 

 3 man flights did serve their purpose during the testing phases of this game. 

I was a product of 3 man flights. 

3 man flights do give an opportunity to train new pilots and retain them. 

The new guy simply tags along and clear tails in a game of follow the leader.

If it were not for 3 man flights and the training opportunity of flying with DRAC's 

I would have have been long gone from this game. 

 

The reality is that not very many people would currently take a new player under their wing.

After all there is no purpose to groom a player for CLAN WARS  or anything else. 

 

So yes. With in the current iteration of this game 3 man flights would be too OP and would 

result in chasing most people out.

 

Players would enter a match and see a 3 man flight on the other side they would simply go back to hangar. 

Even a 2 man flight would just simply return to hangar. 

IN the current iteration you have people that spot certain 2 man flights and back to hangar they go. 

 

 



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Just add the possibility to put a colored marker on any of your teammates (let's say 3 markers each player) in any battle.

 

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View Postlosttwo, on 16 March 2021 - 02:26 AM, said:

Lets touch on some reality around the subject. 

 3 man flights did serve their purpose during the testing phases of this game. 

I was a product of 3 man flights. 

3 man flights do give an opportunity to train new pilots and retain them. 

The new guy simply tags along and clear tails in a game of follow the leader.

If it were not for 3 man flights and the training opportunity of flying with DRAC's 

I would have have been long gone from this game. 

 

The reality is that not very many people would currently take a new player under their wing.

After all there is no purpose to groom a player for CLAN WARS  or anything else. 

 

So yes. With in the current iteration of this game 3 man flights would be too OP and would 

result in chasing most people out.

 

Players would enter a match and see a 3 man flight on the other side they would simply go back to hangar. 

Even a 2 man flight would just simply return to hangar. 

IN the current iteration you have people that spot certain 2 man flights and back to hangar they go. 

 

 

I have noticed that 'back to the hangar they go' is the motto of many, if not most, noobs lately.  They don't need to see a flight on the other side, a butterfly will do it if the noob happens to be low tier in the battle.


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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 16 March 2021 - 11:58 AM, said:

I have noticed that 'back to the hangar they go' is the motto of many, if not most, noobs lately.  They don't need to see a flight on the other side, a butterfly will do it if the noob happens to be low tier in the battle.

Nobody wants to gain more experience in slightly more difficult games against good opponents. Everyone always goes the way of the coward. :angry:
And even if they should be high-tier and on the opponent's side is a flight or some well-known names, they prefer to leave the game early.
It seems that the sporting spirit of the game is mostly lost among the newly added players.


Most of the players are just mediocre. It's good to be part of the majority and by now I don't want anything else.


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what s with you lot enter game KAIM or reito or George or Spirit who cares on the other side greet polightly and go shoot the crap out of em you may well loose but wthback in WW2 did you stop ask the enemy hey are you an ace and then excuse yourself. man you guys should head off to flight sim or something more relaxing who cares who is where RED IS [edited]dead damn

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View Postgerr22, on 16 March 2021 - 07:41 AM, said:

what s with you lot enter game KAIM or reito or George or Spirit who cares on the other side greet polightly and go shoot the crap out of em you may well loose but wthback in WW2 did you stop ask the enemy hey are you an ace and then excuse yourself. man you guys should head off to flight sim or something more relaxing who cares who is where RED IS [edited]dead damn

 

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View Postthe_better_tetrisgamer, on 16 March 2021 - 05:11 AM, said:

. Everyone always goes the way of the coward. :angry:
 

 

No. Never quit, never give up.  Maybe the people YOU know go "the way of the coward", but my people and I do not.


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There is - or was, I haven't seen them in a while - a certain flighted pair that always gave me lots of grief.  I'd groan when I saw them, but never went back to the hangar because of them.   I think I was even on the winning side a couple of times.

 



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I have no problem with split tiering but 3 man flights bite. When you have to win battles to advance your aircraft for parts going up against 3 man flights will not keep people playing.





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