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Lose_dudes #1 Posted 30 November 2020 - 05:33 PM

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Of course, this could lead to some balancing, but it would be fun, and, in my opinion, increase the game's popularity.

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Oh, but the WHINING about the matchmaker would only increase...

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View PostLose_dudes, on 30 November 2020 - 11:33 AM, said:

Of course, this could lead to some balancing, but it would be fun, and, in my opinion, increase the game's popularity.

YES YES YES YES YES.

 

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losttwo #4 Posted 30 November 2020 - 06:44 PM

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View PostWhoaBlackBetty, on 30 November 2020 - 01:19 PM, said:

 

Yeah, agreed, but more modes along with this would bring in more players, and bring back more vets.  I want it ALL.

 

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I truly believe that the only mode that will increase, bring back, retain people is a player vs player mode.

That is what makes the other games like 4tnight COD and others so popular.

It is that feeling of " gotcha " when you shoot the toon of another person.

Maybe I suffer from some sort of psychosis but I really get a rush winning against and shooting humans,

The thrill has left this building when bots were added.

I would have to go as far as to say it is orgasmic when I make a human crash while they are chasing me.

 

remember those old York Peppermint Patty Commercials...yeah those feelings.

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View Postlosttwo, on 30 November 2020 - 06:44 PM, said:

 

I truly believe that the only mode that will increase, bring back, retain people is a player vs player mode.

That is what makes the other games like 4tnight COD and others so popular.

It is that feeling of " gotcha " when you shoot the toon of another person.

Maybe I suffer from some sort of psychosis but I really get a rush winning against and shooting humans,

The thrill has left this building when bots were added.

I would have to go as far as to say it is orgasmic when I make a human crash while they are chasing me.

 

remember those old York Peppermint Patty Commercials...yeah those feelings.

Wargaming just needs to eat a Snikers.

Player-only is a NIGHTMARE>

trust me, I've seen it in tanks


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losttwo #6 Posted 30 November 2020 - 08:15 PM

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View PostLose_dudes, on 30 November 2020 - 02:07 PM, said:

Player-only is a NIGHTMARE>

trust me, I've seen it in tanks

 

When I joined in closed beta and played through to 1.7 it was ALL HUMAN versus HUMAN.

It was 3 man flights and 2 tier spread. I think 1.7 is when they introduced bots because of WG mess with 1.5.

An Akamatsu was destroying 3 planes 2 tiers higher than yours.

 

More fun that a barrel of monkeys and far from a nightmare.

Here is a tier 4-5-6 match with 15 humans versus 15 humans, NO BOTS ALLOWED



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View Postlosttwo, on 30 November 2020 - 09:59 AM, said:

Lead to some balancing ? how.

Adding any additional game mode would only change the amount of all bot matches players would encounter.

 as an exaggerated example:

currently you have 100 players trying to play 1 mode,

Add another 4 modes and you end up with 20 players trying to play 1 mode.

In addition to the numerous forum threads that they end up on the wrong side while trying to play a particular mode.

 

If Warshaming was interested in increasing population they would add a Player vs Player ( human vs Human ) mode.

Which is what most of those that left want.

 

I admit I enjoy the PvE aspect of WOWP - but it's not as challenging as PvP.  I do enjoy going up against other humans, as that (to me) really shows where your strengths and weaknesses are.

 

In WOWS, they have two modes - Co-Op and Random.  Co-Op is humans and bots against an all bot team, and that's what I mainly played when I was active in that game.   Random was all humans against all humans, and it was brutal.   I think I'm a better plane driver than a ship driver - but then, my ship driving skills aren't exactly a high bar to jump over :).

 

I would love to have more "types" of battles in WOWP, and would even be good with a strictly PvP option, though the queue times for that might border on horrendous....

 



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View PostCorsair4790805, on 30 November 2020 - 05:02 PM, said:

 though the queue times for that might border on horrendous....

 

After the game went live and Wargaming decided to listen to all " you need to balance the game and other millennial give me a win and make the game easy " people.

I think it was around 1.5 Match maker would take 10 minutes to place you into a 1 vs 1 match

In 1.6 I think it got worse and would take 30 minutes to place you into a 3 vs 3 match

All in the name of BALANCE.

 1.5 an experienced player like me with 30K battles could fly a P-12 tier 1 and was not  suppose to see a new player.

That didn't work. My P-12 even has a couple of THUNDER medals..Yes Thunder for destroying ground targets.

You could clear all the ground targets in a single match and then either shoot the new player ( with 2 battles under his belt) or let him chase you until the clock ran out.

 

I think I quit playing in 1.7 or 1.8 when they introduced the bots and only returned about a year ago

 


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View Postlosttwo, on 30 November 2020 - 06:26 PM, said:

After the game went live and Wargaming decided to listen to all " you need to balance the game and other millennial give me a win and make the game easy " people.

I think it was around 1.5 Match maker would take 10 minutes to place you into a 1 vs 1 match

In 1.6 I think it got worse and would take 30 minutes to place you into a 3 vs 3 match

All in the name of BALANCE.

 1.5 an experienced player like me with 30K battles could fly a P-12 tier 1 and was not  suppose to see a new player.

That didn't work. My P-12 even has a couple of THUNDER medals..Yes Thunder for destroying ground targets.

You could clear all the ground targets in a single match and then either shoot the new player ( with 2 battles under his belt) or let him chase you until the clock ran out.

 

I think I quit playing in 1.7 or 1.8 when they introduced the bots and only returned about a year ago

 

remember when the start of match:

You: want to farm ground targets?

RandoDude: sure, lets go!


if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


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View PostLose_dudes, on 30 November 2020 - 09:07 AM, said:

Player-only is a NIGHTMARE>

trust me, I've seen it in tanks

 

Indeed.  The tech tree grinds and credit economy are abysmal in Tanks, and it would be the same here.  

 


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View PostCaptain_Rownd, on 30 November 2020 - 10:44 PM, said:

 

Indeed.  The tech tree grinds and credit economy are abysmal in Tanks, and it would be the same here.  

 


No, it wasn’t as bad here as it was in tonks.  But then I had premium time for about a year and a half at live.  And it felt much easier to make creds and progressing up the trees in comparison.  But that’s the 1.x version of PvP.
 



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are you saying that WG is using bots in tanks now

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View PostWhoaBlackBetty, on 30 November 2020 - 05:55 PM, said:

YES YES YES YES YES.

 

Sit down, my friend Corvus.


Oh, I'm totally on board with more game modes, don't get me wrong.

It's the matchmaker whining that gripes me.  And it would only increase if you had bomber escort, invasion, and attrition thrown in there, all on top of conquest.



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View Postlosttwo, on 01 December 2020 - 07:03 AM, said:

are you saying that WG is using bots in tanks now


Yes.



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 01 December 2020 - 01:12 PM, said:


Yes.


Wargaming must be immune to the pain of shooting them selves in the foot.

Maybe I should try tanks again and see if I can get past tier 7



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 01 December 2020 - 12:12 PM, said:


Oh, I'm totally on board with more game modes, don't get me wrong.

It's the matchmaker whining that gripes me.  And it would only increase if you had bomber escort, invasion, and attrition thrown in there, all on top of conquest.

 

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View Postlosttwo, on 01 December 2020 - 02:03 AM, said:

are you saying that WG is using bots in tanks now

 

View Postlosttwo, on 01 December 2020 - 01:21 PM, said:


Wargaming must be immune to the pain of shooting them selves in the foot.

Maybe I should try tanks again and see if I can get past tier 7

 

There are only bots used in tier 1 & special event game modes.

 

All other public games are 15 vs 15 humans.  Although there are many humans that play like bots.



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View Postlosttwo, on 30 November 2020 - 03:26 PM, said:

After the game went live and Wargaming decided to listen to all " you need to balance the game and other millennial give me a win and make the game easy " people.

I think it was around 1.5 Match maker would take 10 minutes to place you into a 1 vs 1 match

In 1.6 I think it got worse and would take 30 minutes to place you into a 3 vs 3 match

All in the name of BALANCE.

 1.5 an experienced player like me with 30K battles could fly a P-12 tier 1 and was not  suppose to see a new player.

That didn't work. My P-12 even has a couple of THUNDER medals..Yes Thunder for destroying ground targets.

You could clear all the ground targets in a single match and then either shoot the new player ( with 2 battles under his belt) or let him chase you until the clock ran out.

 

I think I quit playing in 1.7 or 1.8 when they introduced the bots and only returned about a year ago

 

 

30 minutes?   Good grief....I play 2-3 hours/day on average.   I'd get in maybe 4 games a day when all is said and done with those queue times.

 

And waiting 30 minutes to then turn in a miserable performance....or another 30 minutes to recover from my previous miserable performance....ugh.

 






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