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WhoaBlackBetty #21 Posted 21 November 2020 - 08:54 PM

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View Posttrikke, on 21 November 2020 - 02:17 PM, said:

i flew it several battles today...    i like it!        but it's not a 'heavy', really      it's a twin engine MR

 

 

 

In agreement with this.  Flew it only one flight, and it seemed like a lumbering MR with bombs and a little speed, slow turning, decent roll, with weak guns. that do a decent job against fighters, but struggled against bombers. 


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qu33kKC #22 Posted 21 November 2020 - 08:56 PM

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innnnnnteresting.

 

thanks for the statpost!



Captain_Underpants53 #23 Posted 21 November 2020 - 09:52 PM

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View Posttrikke, on 21 November 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

i flew it several battles today...    i like it!        but it's not a 'heavy', really      it's a twin engine MR

 

the guns just seemed light     two 23mms should pop more targets than my other new toy, the gorgeous Beau V, so i peeked under the sheets

 

F5F
Level 5
Autoaim angle 2
Dispersion angle 0.4
Overheat time 10        (two seconds longer)
Recoil dispersion 0
Firepower 79       (maybe 9% less?)
Rounds per minute 360     (6.0 per second)
Bullet fly distance 189
Bullet mass 0.1
Bullet speed 356
Caliber23
 
Beau V
Level 5
Autoaim angle 3         (is this better, or worse?) 
Dispersion angle 0.4
Overheat time 8        (you would think the 23mms would overheat faster than the 20mms, but no)
Recoil dispersion 0
Firepower 90
Rounds per minute 400     (6.6 per second)
Bullet fly distance 189
Bullet mass 0.1
Bullet speed 444   (i would think that be noticeably better that the 356 of the Madsens, but maybe not much diff, in practice)
Caliber 20
 
my conclusion:   i guess they're similar-ish, but my scores were higher in the Beau V

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wylleEcoyote #24 Posted 27 November 2020 - 08:09 PM

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After a few stock flights here are my conclusions. 
The firepower is all canons, no HMG. That is a really big deal in american Heavies, Premium or otherwise.
They do half the damage of a spec P-38F. (sad)  but they can consistently do that damage at much better ranges. (glad) 
Very similar in use to the Beaufighter V except that the BV uses two tier 6 Hispanos (and a doom turret) while the american Marden 23's are tier 5. 
(this seems a bad thing until you realise that the F5F can fly rings around that Beaufighter V and engage from beyond the doom turrets reach) 

When it comes to speed and altitude the P-38F still wins. Even if that P-38 has a turn build. (because Speed and altitude is what the Lightning do)
But the Skyrocket is a good name because it does come close
The boost felt a little anemic. However this was a stock plane and low skill pilot.
It was honestly my biggest complaint so first thing i did was throw on a booster (after the free advanced gunsight) in the engine slot and it felt better.  
 
And while on paper, the F5F and P-38F has the same manuverability ... i disagree.
Running it stock the Roll rate feels the same but can definitely feel a difference in response when you throw around that Rudder. Which a seasoned pilot will appreciate.
But that is a trick you may not have to resort to as often as you think because ... its elevators are huge and that DOES translate into a very responsive pitch rate.
Which is a very noob friendly aspect that is often overlooked; and may be the low-key #BestThing about the F5F.  
I haven't tried lightweight engines yet. Mostly because it hasnt seemed needed (to me, ymmv) where i fly this plane.
But i suppose that if you do then it will really help if you wanna turnfight your way out of a match up with a multirole that catches you being too low for you to escape by boosting back to the high heavens ...  

Ultimately you can use this at high altitude to kill other heavies and bombers with relative ease. Even Japanese gotta respect that potential rudder throw, if nothing else.  
While still having the agility to keep those cannons on smaller, more agile targets that prefer to fly lower.
You just have to get them while they arent paying attention.
Which is almost as easy to do as it is to say; thanks to the cannons that will comfortably do all their damage all the way out to 800 meters, with ultimate long barrels. 
That damage is only average for a tier 5 premium but it keeps it from being OP.
The ease of flight keeps the skill floor low enough for a noob. While still allowing experienced players options to do things that most players wouldn't think is possible with a heavy.  

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is on par with my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
 I start on the right track and then sometimes make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 

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View PostViper_7242NC, on 20 November 2020 - 07:29 PM, said:

 

 

In 1941, Navy pilots tested the XF5F-1 in a fly-off against the Supermarine Spitfire, Hawker Hurricane, Curtiss P-40 Warhawk, Bell P-39 Airacobra, Bell XFL Airabonita, Vought XF4U Corsair, Grumman F4F Wildcat, and Brewster F2A Buffalo.[4] LCDR Crommelin, in charge of the test, stated in a 1985 letter to George Skurla, Grumman president:

"for instance, I remember testing the XF5F against the XF4U on climb to the 10,000 foot level. I pulled away from the Corsair so fast I thought he was having engine trouble. The F5F was a carrier pilot's dream, as opposite rotating propellers eliminated all torque and you had no large engine up front to look around to see the LSO (landing signal officer) ... The analysis of all the data definitely favored the F5F, and the Spitfire came in a distant second. ... ADM Towers told me that securing spare parts ... and other particulars which compounded the difficulty of building the twin-engine fighter, had ruled out the Skyrocket and that the Bureau had settled on the Wildcat for mass production."[4]

I hope Towers was regretting his life choices by 1942.


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