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MrNellis #1 Posted 22 October 2020 - 05:57 AM

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I’m thinking about switching my home settings to 2.4 instead of 5 GHz wifi to get better coverage throughout the house. Anyone have any problems with that in the game? Thanks!

 



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You will still be able to win matches, just can't run anything else on the WiFi.

Actually I have no idea about the Ghz side of it only the Gbytes side.

From homeschooling on 4 different computers to 3 gaming systems and a TV smarter than me

We had to switch to a better internet.

We had Verizon 25Gb and could run anything else on the internet when I played WOWP.

Switched to Xfinity Business and it is like going from trying to have a family swim in a wading pool to OLYMPICS.



MrNellis #3 Posted 22 October 2020 - 01:47 PM

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View Postlosttwo, on 22 October 2020 - 09:24 AM, said:.

Actually I have no idea about the Ghz side of it only the Gbytes side.

Thanks for your reply.  With respect to the GHz, I’ve been told it’s a negligible impediment to speed, and an improvement to distance and coverage.


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View PostMrNellis, on 22 October 2020 - 12:57 AM, said:

I’m thinking about switching my home settings to 2.4 instead of 5 GHz wifi to get better coverage throughout the house. Anyone have any problems with that in the game? Thanks!

 

 

Don't. I have both and 2.4 sux. :ohmy:


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jack_wdw #5 Posted 22 October 2020 - 02:36 PM

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2.4Ghz has a max datarate of 150Mbps
5Ghz    has a max datarate of 1000Mbps 

2.4 has better coverage compared to 5.0

I think both should be good enough to run wowp since most ISP's offer 20 to 100 Mbit internet.
Check your load balance on your acces points for your home network.
How many concurrent devices are connected to the Wi-Fi?
This being said, if you have the opportunity to connect your pc with a lan-cable, seize it (it's always the best solution)
 

MrNellis #6 Posted 22 October 2020 - 03:32 PM

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View Postjack_wdw, on 22 October 2020 - 02:36 PM, said:

2.4Ghz has a max datarate of 150Mbps
5Ghz    has a max datarate of 1000Mbps 

2.4 has better coverage compared to 5.0

This being said, if you have the opportunity to connect your pc with a lan-cable, seize it (it's always the best solution)

That might be the ticket. I can connect my PC directly with a Lan cable, and maybe change the wifi to 2.4GHz for coverage in the rest of the house... ring doorbells, cameras, Alexa, IoT...



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View PostMrNellis, on 22 October 2020 - 10:32 AM, said:

That might be the ticket. I can connect my PC directly with a Lan cable, and maybe change the wifi to 2.4GHz for coverage in the rest of the house... ring doorbells, cameras, Alexa, IoT...

 

I connect directly to my router. I also have 2.4 and 5 gig wireless. All the phones (3), a ring doorbell and  2 Alexa devices operate on the 5 gig. :)


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View Postjack_wdw, on 22 October 2020 - 04:36 AM, said:


I think both should be good enough to run wowp since most ISP's offer 20 to 100 Mbit internet.\
 

 

You city slickers always gotta rub in your ridiculously fast internet.  (which probably costs less too)   :angry:

 

 


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View PostMrNellis, on 22 October 2020 - 05:32 AM, said:

That might be the ticket. I can connect my PC directly with a Lan cable, and maybe change the wifi to 2.4GHz for coverage in the rest of the house... ring doorbells, cameras, Alexa, IoT...

 

  I always use copper from my desktop machine to the router.   Sometimes I shut off the wifi side of the router to block out anything else in the house.  (i.e. guests who don't have a clue how much crap their fricken phones upload to the "cloud" 24/7)


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So here is the biggest thing about 2.4 Ghz and I run into this a lot with customers internet because of it.  Currently as it is 2.4 Ghz has a longer range but is easily interfered because of many devices nowadays that uses 2.4 Ghz band.  (Remember 2.4 and 5 Ghz bands are public bands so this is one of the reasons that ISPs can not guarantee speeds on wifi).  Devices like wireless cameras, cordless phones, bluetooth devices, even had a customer that has a professional RC Car that uses 2.4 Ghz transmitter that when he was using his RC car would kill his internet for devices that uses 2.4 Ghz and his neighbor's.

This interferences can reduce or even wipe out amount of speed you can attain from it.  Currently 5 Ghz does not have as much interference from other devices and its channel bands are isolated better.  As you see below 2.4 Ghz channels overlap other channels, only 3 channels out of that band does not over lap and that is 1, 6, 11, but this is using 20 Hz wide, if you go to 40 Hz the overlapping gets bigger.


Now for 5 Ghz you do not get the overlapping on 20 Hz like you do with 2.4, so neighboring channels do not interfere each other at 20 Hz.

Rule of thumb is if you want the speeds and less possible interference effecting the wifi, use 5 Ghz, unless you need the range, then use 2.4.  But got to remember this is also dependent on the receiving devices wifi antenna.  I have had customers that have gotten brand new laptops that can not see 5 Ghz while their old laptop that is 4 years old that can.  For example my Xbox One S that I got last year can not see 5 Ghz, all my current Smartphones can see both 2.4 and 5 Ghz..

Now with the new 802.11ax (Wifi 6) routers, which at this time are insane prices (i.e. Mesh AX routers are $6-700) since they just got released, this new Wifi standard uses orthogonal frequency-division multiple access (OFDMA) that helps reduces the interference on this band and is the first standard that actually improves 2.4 Ghz and with the use of 4x4 Multi-input, Multi-output (MIMO), 2.4 Ghz can get up to 1.1 Gbps and 5 Ghz can do 4.8 Gbps.

Sorry for getting all geeky on this.  One, I work for an ISP as a Field Technician, so I run into Wifi issues all the time for customers and have to break down how Wifi works so they have a better understanding why speeds are what they are on Wifi.  Two, I keep abreast on Wifi technology, so besides work, I read a lot about it and the new standards and technologies they come up with to improve Wifi.

 

View PostCaptain_Rownd, on 22 October 2020 - 05:28 PM, said:

 

You city slickers always gotta rub in your ridiculously fast internet.  (which probably costs less too)   :angry:

 

 


I live in the country and I currently have 100 Mbps but can get 400 or 965 Mbps (btw this is is on a Hybrid Fiber Coax plant (HFC)).  Currently here in NY State, NYS has given money to multiple ISPs here to run new builds in many country areas because NYS goal is to have 90+% of NYS residents to be able to get 50 Mbps or higher bandwidth speeds.


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Personally I'm a big fan of utilising a long Ethernet cable.
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I practically sit on top of my router.  I have the shortest cable, everyone says it's the shortest.  I have leaders of tech companies call me and say "Your cable is so short, you must have the best internet access that anyone has ever seen".  No one knows internet like I do.  It's the greatest internet the world has seen.  

 

In two weeks, we're going to release the best internet plan anyone has ever seen.  Your rates will be cut in half and your speeds will increase dramatically.  No one has ever seen an internet plan like you will see from me.  


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View PostFour_Leaf_Tayback, on 23 October 2020 - 09:43 PM, said:

I practically sit on top of my router.  I have the shortest cable, everyone says it's the shortest.  I have leaders of tech companies call me and say "Your cable is so short, you must have the best internet access that anyone has ever seen".  No one knows internet like I do.  It's the greatest internet the world has seen.  

 

In two weeks, we're going to release the best internet plan anyone has ever seen.  Your rates will be cut in half and your speeds will increase dramatically.  No one has ever seen an internet plan like you will see from me.  

 

Hahahaha!  That was GREAT. Bigly! :medal: :teethhappy:


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View PostDrSinister, on 22 October 2020 - 01:56 PM, said:

 


I live in the country and I currently have 100 Mbps but can get 400 or 965 Mbps (btw this is is on a Hybrid Fiber Coax plant (HFC)).  Currently here in NY State, NYS has given money to multiple ISPs here to run new builds in many country areas because NYS goal is to have 90+% of NYS residents to be able to get 50 Mbps or higher bandwidth speeds.

 

  hello from lucky-to-have-10Mbps Hawaii  :(

 

  not to mention the ping penalty

 

 


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View Posthoom, on 23 October 2020 - 07:21 PM, said:

Personally I'm a big fan of utilising a long Ethernet cable.

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View PostFour_Leaf_Tayback, on 23 October 2020 - 09:43 PM, said:

I practically sit on top of my router.  I have the shortest cable, everyone says it's the shortest.  I have leaders of tech companies call me and say "Your cable is so short, you must have the best internet access that anyone has ever seen".  No one knows internet like I do.  It's the greatest internet the world has seen.  

 

In two weeks, we're going to release the best internet plan anyone has ever seen.  Your rates will be cut in half and your speeds will increase dramatically.  No one has ever seen an internet plan like you will see from me.  


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View PostFour_Leaf_Tayback, on 24 October 2020 - 02:43 AM, said:

I practically sit on top of my router.  I have the shortest cable, everyone says it's the shortest.  I have leaders of tech companies call me and say "Your cable is so short, you must have the best internet access that anyone has ever seen".  No one knows internet like I do.  It's the greatest internet the world has seen.  

 

In two weeks, we're going to release the best internet plan anyone has ever seen.  Your rates will be cut in half and your speeds will increase dramatically.  No one has ever seen an internet plan like you will see from me.  


Come on, man....

 



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