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First Take on the Il-2 (mod)

Il-2 mod Ground Attack Aircraft premium aircraft review

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qu33kKC #1 Posted 18 July 2020 - 08:16 PM

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Since WG gave us the chance to pick up a hanger slot, I decided to spend a bit of gold to pick up the Sturmovik, a tier V Soviet premium Ground Attack Aircraft. I spent roughly 3 hours taking it through its paces.   The guns are perfectly adequate for taking apart soft targets and other GAA.  The bombs and rockets are a bit anemic, but I still have a long way to go to figure out just how many of what is the best use of the ordinance.  My best game of the session was 3 air & 17 ground targets, and just short of a winged legend, but most were much less spectacular.  As is common with most WoWP premiums, it struggles mightily when downtiered.  Three-base maps full of Skillfires make for sad GAA drivers, no matter what plane they are in. 

 

For an airplane legendarily rugged IRL, I spent a lot of time on fire and/or with critted control surfaces.  I don't remember EVER doing as much fiddling with equipment options with a new plane like I did with this one.  The rear gun is pretty weak, and it's hard shaking anyone off your tail, but anything in FRONT of the plane is going to have issues.  :playing:   One thing I discovered fairly long into the session was that it is quite responsive to key-inputs for aileron and elevator.  ("responsive" by comparison. . . . )  I suspect with a bit more practice, there are some things to be learned to improve its ability to get something off your six, or get the nose around on to a target faster.

 

I make no claim to being an expert on GAA, I fly them and have fun in them, and even occasionally carry a game in one.  With that being said, and given that this was very much a first impression with a low Skill point crew, I had some fun games, and I think that this plane can certainly be effective.  As a note, I probably made a mistake buying the special Stormcrow paint scheme.  It is LOVELY, but the basic paint schemes with AAA resistance would likely have been a better choice for game play, vs aesthetics.

 

Comments and responses welcome, especially from folks who spend more time in GAA than I do!  :great:



trikke #2 Posted 18 July 2020 - 09:25 PM

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i've got Marina the female soviet pilot in mine, but her superpowers are niche-y at best       the il-2 mod was fun for a while, but i never saw any decent scores

 

so she sits alone in a dark, creepy hangar, waiting for me to come back          that's not going to happen        sorry, bye


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LMG #3 Posted 18 July 2020 - 09:27 PM

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The IL-2 (mod.) statistically is a slightly worse tech-tree IL-2, with weaker ordnance (the anemic feeling you get is justified), slightly worse speed if the IL-2 runs the same setup (which it can't when specialized), and a tailgun that's rather mediocre but better than nothing. The only thing holding it back is the noticeably weaker ordnance, often requiring you to spend more than you're comfortable with and causing issues with larger sectors, like Mining Plants and Military Bases.

That said, it's still an IL, so it has enough power to get most caps regardless. And with Specialist locking out the standard IL-2's 23mm cannons, the (mod.) retains a little bit of uniqueness with its gun setup. It's not a GAA I recommend going out of your way to get, but it's still a proper GAA :great:

Unlike the Hs 129 A, that thing is a mess :ohmy:


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WhoaBlackBetty #4 Posted 19 July 2020 - 01:26 AM

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View PostLMG, on 18 July 2020 - 03:27 PM, said:

 it has enough power to get most caps regardless.

 

That.  It is a fight, indeed, but with a pilot who can learn her, she is a grubby, stubborn fighter.  I use her with MY Marina (she is MINE, and all 15 skill points), and can be a threat.  Having said that, I mostly use her for the mid-grade missions that do not require a win.  In that, she can excel. 

 

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Captain_Rownd #5 Posted 19 July 2020 - 03:44 AM

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View PostLMG, on 18 July 2020 - 11:27 AM, said:


Unlike the Hs 129 A, that thing is a mess :ohmy:

 

Hs 129 A is loads of fun. 

 


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LMG #6 Posted 19 July 2020 - 04:06 AM

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View PostCaptain_Rownd, on 18 July 2020 - 10:44 PM, said:

Hs 129 A is loads of fun. 

 

The problem is that the plane has nothing going for it. It's the slowest tier 4 GAA, slower than even some tier 3s. It has weak ordnance, doesn't turn, and has no reargun. The guns are workable, but the BSh-2 has better ones, as well as better bombs and much higher top speed. The Fw 189 C turns circles around it and has an actual reargun. The LBSh laughs at it with maximum speed and better bombs that reload quicker. The poor thing has nothing that makes it stand out or make you want to use it over anything else :(


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Dapprman #7 Posted 19 July 2020 - 12:09 PM

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View Postqu33kKC, on 18 July 2020 - 08:16 PM, said:

For an airplane legendarily rugged IRL, I spent a lot of time on fire and/or with critted control surfaces.  I don't remember EVER doing as much fiddling with equipment options with a new plane like I did with this one.  T


A very bug myth alas, partly brought about by post war Soviet propaganda and not helped by the computer game.  It was tough against lower calibre AAA however by the time it really appeared the Germans were already mainly using 20mm or greater which had no trouble against the IL-2 - additionally it was easy food for German fighters where they had air superiority (which was often even after Kursk).  Loss numbers for the IL-2 and it's variants was horrendous.


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Captain_Rownd #8 Posted 19 July 2020 - 10:11 PM

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View PostLMG, on 18 July 2020 - 06:06 PM, said:

 

The problem is that the plane has nothing going for it. It's the slowest tier 4 GAA, slower than even some tier 3s. It has weak ordnance, doesn't turn, and has no reargun. The guns are workable, but the BSh-2 has better ones, as well as better bombs and much higher top speed. The Fw 189 C turns circles around it and has an actual reargun. The LBSh laughs at it with maximum speed and better bombs that reload quicker. The poor thing has nothing that makes it stand out or make you want to use it over anything else :(

 

Slow, but 40 seconds of boost.  Turrets are a joke anyway, honestly.  I use my forward guns to shoot things down - fighters, GA, trikke, etc.  I don't have LBSh or fly Fw 189 C, but it is similar to the BSh-1 and Ha 137 which I also enjoy.  I don't look at the stats, it's just fun to fly and scrap with.  

 


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View PostCaptain_Rownd, on 19 July 2020 - 05:11 PM, said:

Slow, but 40 seconds of boost.  Turrets are a joke anyway, honestly.  I use my forward guns to shoot things down - fighters, GA, trikke, etc.  I don't have LBSh or fly Fw 189 C, but it is similar to the BSh-1 and Ha 137 which I also enjoy.  I don't look at the stats, it's just fun to fly and scrap with.  


I'm not against you liking the plane, but the plane is in serious need of a buff.

It's so slow that by the time you use that extra 10 seconds of boost, the other planes are probably already in the next sector, or closer to them than the Hs 129 A will be. That lets them get an edge in getting the cap started, one that the Hs 129 A cannot really compensate for with equal or worse ordnance. That said, having the guns mounted tightly in the nose does help it in head-on engagements and shooting down unaware opponents, which isn't quite enough to make the plane shine :sceptic:

I agree that tier 4 turrets are not exactly worth mentioning much (especially the LBSh's), but they'll still kill enemies behind you if they're heavily damaged. Otherwise you have to rely on bombs or fancy flying. That also applies in the IL-2 vs IL-2 (mod.) discussion, as having that turret lets it finish off weakened foes, and make injured ones think twice about attacking. Too bad these "bad" turrets all got hit with the universal turret nerf, which hurt them the worst of all :(

The BSh-1 has 8 bombs at tier 3, allowing it to deal with more armored buildings than its competition, and the Ha 137 has 20mm cannons that give it an edge in alpha damage and range, on top of being fairly agile for the tier. Only the Ha 137 somewhat plays like the Hs 129 A since they both have similar armaments (not taking into account the agility difference), while the BSh-1 is somewhat forced to bomb everything that isn't 4-tent ground targets.


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View PostCaptain_Rownd, on 19 July 2020 - 04:11 PM, said:

 

Slow, but 40 seconds of boost.  Turrets are a joke anyway, honestly.  I use my forward guns to shoot things down - fighters, GA, trikke, etc.  I don't have LBSh or fly Fw 189 C, but it is similar to the BSh-1 and Ha 137 which I also enjoy.  I don't look at the stats, it's just fun to fly and scrap with.  

 

That is funny.

 

View PostLMG, on 19 July 2020 - 04:53 PM, said:


I'm not against you liking the plane, but the plane is in serious need of a buff.
Agreed.


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trikke #11 Posted 22 July 2020 - 02:55 PM

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View PostCaptain_Rownd, on 19 July 2020 - 05:11 PM, said:

 I use my forward guns to shoot things down - fighters, GA, trikke, etc. 

 

nearly overlooked it!   lol     

 

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