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Poll: Tier 4 Tech Tree Planes: Like or Dislike? (34 members have cast votes)

Like?

  1. P-36 (7 votes [8.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.24%

  2. F2A (7 votes [8.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.24%

  3. P-43 (4 votes [4.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.71%

  4. I-16L (6 votes [7.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.06%

  5. I-17 (14 votes [16.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.47%

  6. BSh-2 (4 votes [4.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.71%

  7. Ar-2 (6 votes [7.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.06%

  8. He112 (11 votes [12.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.94%

  9. Bf109B (24 votes [28.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.24%

  10. None of the above (2 votes [2.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.35%

Like?

  1. Bf110B (22 votes [23.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.91%

  2. Fw189C (5 votes [5.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.43%

  3. Do17Z (3 votes [3.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.26%

  4. Ki-43-I (7 votes [7.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.61%

  5. A6M1 (12 votes [13.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.04%

  6. Bristol 146 (18 votes [19.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.57%

  7. Hurricane I (12 votes [13.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.04%

  8. Blenheim F (11 votes [11.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.96%

  9. None of the above (2 votes [2.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.17%

Dislike?

  1. P-36 (8 votes [10.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.67%

  2. F2A (9 votes [12.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.00%

  3. P-43 (6 votes [8.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.00%

  4. I-16L (11 votes [14.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.67%

  5. I-17 (5 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

  6. BSh-2 (13 votes [17.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.33%

  7. Ar-2 (9 votes [12.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.00%

  8. He112 (4 votes [5.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.33%

  9. Bf109B (2 votes [2.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.67%

  10. None of the above (8 votes [10.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.67%

Dislike?

  1. Bf110B (3 votes [4.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.11%

  2. Fw189C (10 votes [13.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.70%

  3. Do17Z (10 votes [13.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.70%

  4. Ki-43-I (11 votes [15.07%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.07%

  5. A6M1 (7 votes [9.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.59%

  6. Bristol 146 (5 votes [6.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.85%

  7. Hurricane I (6 votes [8.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.22%

  8. Blenheim F (6 votes [8.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.22%

  9. None of the above (15 votes [20.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.55%

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Maqor #1 Posted 12 July 2020 - 10:05 PM

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Alright, now we're into tier 4, the only Period I tier that offers tokens for medals. Extra pressure on these to be good, what are you taking?

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Heavy Fighters: P.1056, Ki-93, Bf109Z, XP-58, XP-50, P-38J, Mosquito26, Beaufighter, SE100, P-38F, Bf110E, Ki-45, Beaufighter5, Bf110B, BlenheimF, Multiroles: P-47B, Tempest, Tornado, IL-1, F4U-1, S-199, Hurricane 2, LaGG-3(4), Fighters: La-9, Yak-3RD, Vampire, Me209A, Ki-88, Mustang1A, I-210, P-51A, XP-55, A6M3 exp, XF4U-1, XF4F-3, Bf109B, 2PA, Hurricane 1A, GAA/Bombers: A-26B, Pe2M82, IL-2mod, IL-2, Me329, He111, IL-20


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love both the 109B and the 110B, and the Blennie heavy, too            loved the He-112, but i've outgrown it

 

loved the Eule, but i haven't flown it in more than a year            haven't seen a human in one in about the same length of time

 

really love the c-6, but it's a premium so it's not on this list


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I mostly have no opinion on them because they can meet tier 5 and double Spitfire I flights is just murder. And these days we get Spitfire I and Bristol 146 split tiers too.

 

None of these planes can compete with a Spec Spit I. The Spit has better acceleration under boost, two long ranged and accurate 20mms, better flat speed, climb and turn than ANYTHING at tier 4. 

 

The only tier 4 that can do anything against that is the 110 C-6. Because you cannot outperform boolet. Hence the only tier 4 I like is the 110 C-6


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Like:
P-36 -I'm currently working on Specialising this, Stock its not that great other than OK speed, decent altitude & powerful MGs, Specialist with Airframe & Engine Equipment slots opened up I expect it to be much more competitive.
Bf109B -Top of the T4 pecking order, its the fastest, highest altitude plane, retains pretty good turn & has good firepower with the 20mm hub cannon.
Hurricane I -Not especially quick or agile but 8* 0.303s & 2* 60s reloading bombs, as long as you pick your targets well it can do a lot of good work.
Blenheim F -Kinda lumbering but among the quicker planes of T4 at least in sustained speed, twin 20mm in the nose supplemented with a 360deg twin tail-gun & 4* internal (no speed penalty) bombs albeit somewhat slow loading -> its great for Token missions.

 

Dislike:
BSh-2 -slow, can't turn & a 1hp enemy can kill you because no tailgunner
Fw189C -I didn't hate it per-se in terms of performance, can't stand the airframe.
Do17Z -bomber
Ki-43-I -too low, too slow, too incendiary, not enough pewpew
Bristol 146 -arguably very strong for tier but ugly as sin & a barely known prototype

 

Neutral:
F2A -I'm working on Specialising it after having the T3 Premium, with 4* 0.50 it has powerful firepower, gonna build it full Cruise/Speed, its not going to be amazing but I think its going to be good for a bit of a blast every now & then.
P-43 -I think I skipped it?
I-16L -I loved the I-16s when I was new but really they're not very good.
I-17 -technically very strong but an unknown prototype.
Ar-2 -bomber
He112 -I skipped it, looks like pretty powerful  but I don't like the proportions.
Bf110B -I only played 2 battles with it, maybe arguably better than Blenheim F.
A6M1 -I have this Specialised & enjoy taking it out from time to time, other times its lack of speed, pewpew, altitude & excessive inflammability are incredibly frustrating.


Edited by hoom, 20 October 2020 - 05:55 AM.

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Me-109B, P-36 and Do-17 are three of my favorite planes.  Both fighters can dominate the high air at tier, and the Pencil is my go-to for several ground target missions due to speed and number of sticks of bombs.  Most of the other Tier IV planes that I fly are freemiums/giveaways.  The C-6 is derptastic. . . .

BrettSD #6 Posted 19 October 2020 - 03:45 PM

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I haven’t played too many lines and I just recently started breaking into the German tree. 

Like:

 

P-36- Stock it’s a decent aircraft. Good speed, powerful machine gun armament for the tier, and somewhat forgiving in turns. I mostly enjoyed having it as a platform to get better at BnZ flying in a US plane. It set up for a very successful and enjoyable P-40 run. 

 

LaGG-3/4- Not entirely sure why or how I got this thing, must have had a few bucks laying around. It’s certainly outside my preferred BnZ speed demon mount, but it’s just fun to fly. It has an odd gun set up of 2 .30 cal MG’s and 1.50 cal MG firing through the prop arc and a 20mm hub mounted cannon. This makes it a sniper plane with a bit more damage in between 20mm bursts. The rockets just give you an opportunity to pick up some easy points. 
 

Being so low to the deck all the time makes me a bit antsy and can limit what you can do though, especially against the British and Japanese turn birds that you’ll constantly see.  

 

Bristol 146- Having read through some of the meta discussions here (the subreddit is dead af, so I’m glad to see this forum is a bit more active) people might disagree with me, but I feel like turn fighters still have a good advantage at Tier IV. This plucky little fighter has netted me some real ace games. The placement of cap points at TIV don’t seem spread enough to make its speed a real detriment. Rename this thing the Firebat ‘cause this thing turns up the heat dishing out fires. 
 

Neutral:

 

He 112- A bit awkward in that feels like a jack-of-all trades fighter. It turns, but you’re still not going to do it better than the usual suspects and it’s climb feels meh. It is responsive though. The extra 20mm cannon is nice, but they overheat so fast. That middle fighter line that splits into the FW-190 and Bf 109 lines has been interesting in that they’re sort of polar opposite of what the German fighters are known for. I’m looking forward to finishing a couple more wins in this thing and moving on to the Bf 109 line for the moment. 

Dislike:

 

F2A- Holy crap... If I never have to fly this blunt with popsicle wings piece of crapin this or ANY OTHER flight game again it’ll be too soon. I hate this thing historically, aesthetically, and in every game I’ve encountered it in from IL-2, Aces High, and on. The four .50’s are its only redeeming quality... If you can ever get them on target. 

Bsh-1- You’re ugly, you have no defensive gunner which among other things stunts your gunner, and nobody likes you! 

 

I’m looking forward to finishing up on the Fw-57 and checking out the Bf 110B


Edited by BrettSD, 19 October 2020 - 03:53 PM.


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Like:  109B, 110B, F2A, 1-17, Hurricane I

 

Dislike P43, P36

 

Neutral on everything else.  Realistically I should put all the GAA down as dislike because I dislike them as a style in general, but that seems unfair.  They might be good or not good, and I wouldn't know because I dislike playing them.  Same deal with bombers.


 


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Bf 109B -- The king of tier 4. Nothing else even comes close to the combination of speed, decent maneuverablity, firepower, and altitude performance offered by this monster. The combination of the latter two means this plane uptiers pretty well and is probably the biggest threat to unwary 5s of any 4.

A-Rank:
I-17 -- Pretty much what the I-16(l) used to be before 2.0, less the rockets. Fast, nimble, and good guns. The only thing it lacks is altitude performance.
Bf 110B -- The other king of tier 4; fast and awesome gunnery. Worth noting that there isn't that much competition, since the US and Japan don't get heavies until tier 5.
Bristol 146 -- Ugly as sin, but fun as hell, with its combination of gun power and good maneuverability.
A6M1 -- The second turniest plane at tier 4 (after the Ki-43-I, which is even squishier and has less firepower), even capable of out-turning the biplanes. Stuck down near the deck, though, and it's fragile.

B-Rank:
P-36 -- Decent all-arounder, not particularly strong or weak at anything. Classic early-war looks, too.
P-43 -- Fast, shreddy firepower, and good bombs. Keep the speed up and don't try to turn, and it does fine.
He 112 -- Mostly the looks clinch this one for me, at least the stock airframe. This is the best-looking of the tier 4 LFs in my opinion, with gorgeous swooping lines. Good firepower and all-around performance, too.
Ki-43-I -- Even turnier than the Zero, but only just. It's also made of even thinner rice paper and lacks the sustained firepower provided by the MGs. Of the two, I prefer the A6M1 because the difference in handling is far less noticeable than the difference in shootiness.
Blenheim F -- Slower and less boomy than Bf 110, but less clumsy and has a MUCH better defensive gun. Also four bombs rather than two, but they're smaller, so the benefit is situational. Overall worse at being a heavy than 110B but it's not too far off.

C-Rank:
F2A -- Same firepower as P-43 on a smaller and more maneuverable package. Unfortunately it's also a much, much slower package. Some biplanes get around faster than this crate does.
Fw 189C -- It has a tail gunner! Imagine that!
Ar-2, Do 17Z -- Bombers. Low tier bombers at that. They're okay.

D-Rank:
I-16 late -- This was my favorite plane in the game, before 2.0, thanks to the combination of speed, maneuverability, and firepower; the only thing it lacked was altitude capability. Still seems like a decent plane from the stats. It's just not what it used to be, and I resent that.
Hurricane I -- Well, you've got 8 Brownings going for you.... but so does the Bristol 146, which can actually turn and IIRC is also faster. Hurricane is much easier on the eyes, I guess.

F-Rank:
BSh-2 -- Slow, cumbersome, pathetic guns for a GAA, and no tail gunner, all of which make up a hideous combination. Granted, the tier 2 and 3 planes don't have particularly useful tail gunners, but they do a decent job of sniping kills on low-health enemies once in a while, and are certainly better than nothing. BSh-2 has no way to defend itself apart from the bombs, and if those are on cooldown, you are boned.

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Edited by thehelmsman, 26 July 2021 - 08:41 AM.

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View PostBrettSD, on 19 October 2020 - 07:45 AM, said:

I haven’t played too many lines and I just recently started breaking into the German tree. 

Like:

 

P-36- Stock it’s a decent aircraft. Good speed, powerful machine gun armament for the tier, and somewhat forgiving in turns. I mostly enjoyed having it as a platform to get better at BnZ flying in a US plane. It set up for a very successful and enjoyable P-40 run. 

 

LaGG-3/4- Not entirely sure why or how I got this thing, must have had a few bucks laying around. It’s certainly outside my preferred BnZ speed demon mount, but it’s just fun to fly. It has an odd gun set up of 2 .30 cal MG’s and 1.50 cal MG firing through the prop arc and a 20mm hub mounted cannon. This makes it a sniper plane with a bit more damage in between 20mm bursts. The rockets just give you an opportunity to pick up some easy points. 
 

Being so low to the deck all the time makes me a bit antsy and can limit what you can do though, especially against the British and Japanese turn birds that you’ll constantly see.  

 

Bristol 146- Having read through some of the meta discussions here (the subreddit is dead af, so I’m glad to see this forum is a bit more active) people might disagree with me, but I feel like turn fighters still have a good advantage at Tier IV. This plucky little fighter has netted me some real ace games. The placement of cap points at TIV don’t seem spread enough to make its speed a real detriment. Rename this thing the Firebat ‘cause this thing turns up the heat dishing out fires. 
 

Neutral:

 

He 112- A bit awkward in that feels like a jack-of-all trades fighter. It turns, but you’re still not going to do it better than the usual suspects and it’s climb feels meh. It is responsive though. The extra 20mm cannon is nice, but they overheat so fast. That middle fighter line that splits into the FW-190 and Bf 109 lines has been interesting in that they’re sort of polar opposite of what the German fighters are known for. I’m looking forward to finishing a couple more wins in this thing and moving on to the Bf 109 line for the moment. 

Dislike:

 

F2A- Holy crap... If I never have to fly this blunt with popsicle wings piece of crapin this or ANY OTHER flight game again it’ll be too soon. I hate this thing historically, aesthetically, and in every game I’ve encountered it in from IL-2, Aces High, and on. The four .50’s are its only redeeming quality... If you can ever get them on target. 

Bsh-1- You’re ugly, you have no defensive gunner which among other things stunts your gunner, and nobody likes you! 

 

I’m looking forward to finishing up on the Fw-57 and checking out the Bf 110B


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View Postthehelmsman, on 24 June 2021 - 04:58 AM, said:

Loves:
Bf 109B -- The king of tier 4. Nothing else even comes close to the combination of speed, decent maneuverablity, firepower, and altitude performance offered by this monster. The combination of the latter two means this plane uptiers pretty well and is probably the biggest threat to unwary 5s of any 4.

Likes:
Bf 110B -- The other king of tier 4. The Zerstörer platform actually works at this tier, where it still sees plenty of slow opponents to pick on. 110E has to deal with a lot more fast, high-flying competition that's both harder to keep guns on and harder to evade, for not much of a performance boost over the B.
Bristol 146 -- Ugly as sin, but fun as hell, with its combination of gun power and good maneuverability.
A6M1 -- The turniest plane at tier 4 (except for the Ki-84-I, which is even squishier and has less firepower), even capable of out-turning the biplanes. Stuck down near the deck, though.
He 112 -- Mostly the looks clinch this one for me, at least for the stock airframe. This is the best-looking of all the tier 4 fighters for me, with gorgeous swooping lines. Good firepower, too.
F2A -- Probably a controversial pick, but the four .50s are really powerful at this tier, and it's more maneuverable than the P-43.
 

 

all these with exception of the Buffalo       and bump up the 'like' on the 110b to "love"

 

i did love the Hayabusa      loved it for it's beautiful fragility, like an kerosene-soaked orchid      loved the lines     and because i did just fine it


Edited by trikke, 24 June 2021 - 10:24 PM.

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View Posttrikke, on 24 June 2021 - 05:23 PM, said:

 

all these with exception of the Buffalo       and bump up the 'like' on the 110b to "love"

 

i did love the Hayabusa      loved it for it's beautiful fragility, like an kerosene-soaked orchid      loved the lines     and because i did just fine it

Are you saying bad things about the Buffalo?

 


Edited by Viper_7242NC, 24 June 2021 - 10:39 PM.

 
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View Posttrikke, on 24 June 2021 - 05:23 PM, said:

i did love the Hayabusa


Oh, yeah, I forgot about the Hayabusa. Put that in my likes, but I didn't keep it because I have the Chinese premium one.

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Edited by thehelmsman, 24 June 2021 - 11:43 PM.

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View Postthehelmsman, on 24 June 2021 - 03:39 PM, said:

 


Oh, yeah, I forgot about the Hayabusa. Put that in my likes, but I didn't keep it because I have the Chinese premium one.

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I liked it too, though I too sold it because I have the Chinese premium one. I also didn’t like the Ki-43-I enough to keep it though, it was just kind of meh. Now, the Ki-43-II, THAT’S a diamond in the rough, a hidden gem that I really enjoyed playing, enough so that I kept it.


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i loved them both equally, as i climbed up the Ki line

 

flawed little scrappers     and so much to like in that line      until you get to T8     

 

that's when the carnival music stops


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View Posttrikke, on 25 June 2021 - 02:15 AM, said:

i loved them both equally, as i climbed up the Ki line

 

flawed little scrappers     and so much to like in that line      until you get to T8     

 

that's when the carnival music stops


Yup.  Then I said - "hey, the Salamander at T9 will be fun!"

I was wrong.  The Ki-162 is a big pile of garbage.  Sold it to move the pilot to my J7W1, which I enjoy SO MUCH MORE than the stupid T8 Ki.  And I know that I will like the J7W2 more than the Ki-162.

 

I kept the Ki61, and the Ki-84.  Dumped all the rest, and I have serious doubts I'll ever rebuy them.  If I need something turny at T4, I have my I-17.  And I can always start up the U.K LF line, LOL.


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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 24 June 2021 - 10:21 PM, said:

I was wrong.  The Ki-162 is a big pile of garbage.  Sold it to move the pilot to my J7W1, which I enjoy SO MUCH MORE than the stupid T8 Ki.  And I know that I will like the J7W2 more than the Ki-162.

 

I kept the Ki61, and the Ki-84.  Dumped all the rest, and I have serious doubts I'll ever rebuy them.  If I need something turny at T4, I have my I-17.  And I can always start up the U.K LF line, LOL.

 

i've never considered the Jawas       i see how they branch off there      i will try one

 

i kept the Hein and the 84 too


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View Posttrikke, on 25 June 2021 - 09:41 PM, said:

 

i've never considered the Jawas       i see how they branch off there      i will try one

 

i kept the Hein and the 84 too

SpiritFox says that the J7W1 is too slow, and for a T8 MRF, he's not wrong.  It does really good work A2A, and not as much A2M.  But the bombs are decent, for all that.  I consider it a keeper.  Like other slower,  turny planes,  keeping your head on a swivel is required.  You can really surprise bombers that fly low, and this plane absolutely destroys GAA.  I'm looking forward the the J7W2, because I have seen some folks really clean up with that thing.



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The J7W2 is actually pretty good. Its boost is a lot better so it solves some of the problems with the J7W1

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 27 June 2021 - 06:25 AM, said:

The J7W2 is actually pretty good. Its boost is a lot better so it solves some of the problems with the J7W1


As it happens, I already have the J7W2.  I have no recollection of having the XP to get it, or swapping the pilot over, or equipping it, or painting it.  None, zero.  I haven't even flown it since I bought it.  I was flying my J7W1 for progress to specialization and was surprised to see the J7W2 in the hangar.

I did discover something else that was pleasant.  Since I already had the Ki-162 elited, I did not have to even pay for the top engine in the J7W2.  I just mounted it from the depot.  Sweet.  So now, all I have to do is earn the top guns (over 40k XP for that - yikes), and I can start work on specialization.  The grind to the J7W3 begins right after that.

 

To drag the topic back on-topic, another found item in my hangar has slowly become a favorite.  The Ar-197 is a little biplane of turny death.  Those little bombs don't do much on their own, but they can clean up a segment of missed GT pretty nicely.  I must have gotten this one in a crate and not noticed.  I also kind of like the premium U.S. XP-36C.   I haven't decided how best to use it, because I have not yet discovered if it has a secret talent.  But the Ar-197 with an 11-point pilot really can ruin your whole day.

 



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 27 June 2021 - 10:23 AM, said:


As it happens, I already have the J7W2.  I have no recollection of having the XP to get it, or swapping the pilot over, or equipping it, or painting it.  None, zero.  I haven't even flown it since I bought it.  I was flying my J7W1 for progress to specialization and was surprised to see the J7W2 in the hangar.

I did discover something else that was pleasant.  Since I already had the Ki-162 elited, I did not have to even pay for the top engine in the J7W2.  I just mounted it from the depot.  Sweet.  So now, all I have to do is earn the top guns (over 40k XP for that - yikes), and I can start work on specialization.  The grind to the J7W3 begins right after that.

 

To drag the topic back on-topic, another found item in my hangar has slowly become a favorite.  The Ar-197 is a little biplane of turny death.  Those little bombs don't do much on their own, but they can clean up a segment of missed GT pretty nicely.  I must have gotten this one in a crate and not noticed.  I also kind of like the premium U.S. XP-36C.   I haven't decided how best to use it, because I have not yet discovered if it has a secret talent.  But the Ar-197 with an 11-point pilot really can ruin your whole day.

 

 

The Ar 197 out of the box can ruin your day.....an 11 point pilot in it would make one wonder why they even bothered to get out of bed that day :)

 

Full disclosure:  I have the plane (recently got it from a crate), but I haven't flown it yet.   The above observations are from my futile attempts to turn with the d**n thing, even in a turny bird.

 







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