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Poll: Tier 7 Tech Tree Planes: Like or Dislike? (18 members have cast votes)

Like?

  1. P-51D (9 votes [28.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.12%

  2. F7F (2 votes [6.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.25%

  3. F4U-4 (5 votes [15.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.62%

  4. P-47N (4 votes [12.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  5. B-32 (4 votes [12.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  6. La-7 (2 votes [6.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.25%

  7. Yak-3 (1 vote [3.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.12%

  8. Yak-9U (3 votes [9.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.38%

  9. None of the above (2 votes [6.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.25%

Like?

  1. I-220 (12 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  2. IL-10 (3 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  3. IL-8 (4 votes [9.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

  4. Tu-2 (2 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  5. Fw190D (4 votes [9.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

  6. Bf109G (4 votes [9.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

  7. Bf109Z (7 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

  8. Me265 (6 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  9. None of the above (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

Like?

  1. Ju288A (2 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  2. Ki-84 (10 votes [26.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.32%

  3. A7M (4 votes [10.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

  4. Ki-93 (5 votes [13.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.16%

  5. Spitfire 9 (2 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  6. Typhoon (7 votes [18.42%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.42%

  7. Hornet (7 votes [18.42%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.42%

  8. None of the above (1 vote [2.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.63%

Dislike?

  1. P-51D (1 vote [2.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.70%

  2. F7F (4 votes [10.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.81%

  3. F4U-4 (2 votes [5.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.41%

  4. P-47N (4 votes [10.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.81%

  5. B-32 (7 votes [18.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.92%

  6. La-7 (3 votes [8.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.11%

  7. Yak-3 (5 votes [13.51%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.51%

  8. Yak-9U (5 votes [13.51%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.51%

  9. None of the above (6 votes [16.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.22%

Dislike?

  1. I-220 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. IL-10 (5 votes [15.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.15%

  3. IL-8 (5 votes [15.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.15%

  4. Tu-2 (5 votes [15.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.15%

  5. Fw190D (3 votes [9.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  6. Bf109G (5 votes [15.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.15%

  7. Bf109Z (2 votes [6.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.06%

  8. Me265 (2 votes [6.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.06%

  9. None of the above (6 votes [18.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

Dislike?

  1. Ju288A (10 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  2. Ki-84 (1 vote [3.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  3. A7M (3 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  4. Ki-93 (1 vote [3.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  5. Spitfire 9 (4 votes [13.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.33%

  6. Typhoon (2 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

  7. Hornet (4 votes [13.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.33%

  8. None of the above (5 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

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Maqor #1 Posted 10 July 2020 - 12:20 AM

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Vote for the planes you like or dislike. Polls already exist for Tier 8, Tier 9, and Tier 10 from a few months ago. Apparently I just got sidetracked and never continued down the tiers.

Edited by Maqor, 10 July 2020 - 12:23 AM.

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Heavy Fighters: P.1056, Ki-93, Bf109Z, XP-58, XP-50, P-38J, Mosquito26, Me410, Beaufighter, SE100, P-38F, Bf110E, Ki-45, Beaufighter5, Bf110B, BlenheimF, Multiroles: P-47B, Fw190A5, Tempest, Tornado, IL-1, F4U-1, S-199, Hurricane 2, Fighters: La-9, Yak-3RD, Vampire, Me209A, Ki-88, Mustang1A, I-210, XP-55, SpitDB, A6M3 exp, XF4U-1, Bf109B, P-36, GAA/Bombers: A-26B, Pe2M82, IL-2mod, IL-2, Me329, He111


SpiritFoxMY #2 Posted 10 July 2020 - 12:44 AM

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So I voted for the P51D, I220, Typhoon, Hornet and Dora in the like category.

 

The I220 and 51D are really nice dogfighters with the I220 retaining its competitiveness into tier 8. The Typhoon, Hornet and Dora are where my real love lie in this tier though. All are fast, well armed and carry decent ordnance for ground pounding in a pinch although if I were to be objective about it, the Tiffy and Hornet are just flat out better than the Dora with superior ordnance and performance.

 

In the dislike tier - the 47N just can't stay competitive. It's mediocre even in-tier and it faces tier 8s. It isn't even a good off-attacker because its ordnance reload is so poor. And the Il-8...its slow. Really slow. Not as bad as the tier 5 and 6 but still atrocious. The 109 and 9U also fall into the 47N category of being OK in their tier but get completely flattened at tier 8. Both have unreliable hub mounts that they depend on to be competitive and its that lack of reliability that kills them for me


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hoom #3 Posted 10 July 2020 - 08:35 AM

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Like:

P51D -speed & burnination, the classic P51 looks, enough agility. Not that impressive until you Specialise & put in some really good Equipment though.

F4U-4 -speed & boomination, if you liked F4U-1 this is basically the same but with better speed & guns. I like F4U-1.

P-47N -maybe should rank it neutral but its legit fast for T7 (currently unpiloted but if I recall it hits over 860km/h horizontal) & when you get those 8* 0.50cal on target it burninates real well.

I-220 well just look at this beautiful beast

Its fast, its got altitude, it turns decently under 10s with good Equipment/Pilot & its got 4* decent 20mm mounted on the cowling.

Bf109G -I recently specialised it & I might actually like it more than I-220, its kinda chunky compared to I-220 but handles very similarly and I love the Mk108 hub gun.

Ki-84 -Chunky looks kinda like a P47 but with the agility of a Zero & very grunty armament of 2* 20mm + 2* 30mm same as the T8. The 30mm can be a bit hard to land but not excessively (I'd argue easier than the T8), also decent altitude. I built mine for speed & hitpoints so it does a healthy 707km/h Boost sprint which lets it get around, still has 8.9s turn time.

Typhoon -'Dat chin! I didn't really like it much initially vs Tornado or Tempest but after Specialisation & optimising up the build its pretty much my goto for UK MR line now.

Hornet -I didn't want to play this for a long time because I didn't expect to be able to play it well but when I did I actually really enjoyed it & got a lot of great scores. I purchased Specialist & geared it up a while back but haven't really played it since except a bit during a recent Special & didn't find it especially great.

 

Dislike:

F7F -I really wanted to like it & maybe it comes alive Specialist but it just didn't really have the speed or agility I wanted from it.

Bf109Z -Similarly I really wanted to like it but the ability for just about every plane to slip between all 4 of the 30mms is uncanny & incredibly frustrating.

Me265 -I like the T8 but the T7 is just not quite right both visually & in capability.

Ju288A -blegh bombers.

A7M -Another one I wanted to like but it just hasn't got the usefulness of the Ki-84.

Ki-93 -I expected Ki-102 with a bigger range gun, got something slower, less agile & not really made up for with the extra gun range.

Spitfire 9 -In this tier 2*20mm is really not enough gun & the 2ndary upgrade to 2* 0.50cal isn't enough, there's a lot more faster & higher-altitude competition in this tier. Also from recollection top config has the ugly extended pointed wing-tips.

 

Neutral:

B-32 -only played a couple of battles so-far, it has got massive bomb-power & hitpoints but its not pretty & so-far the forward resting of the turrets really significantly hurts the defensive firepower.

La-7 -I really didn't like it on first run through for similar reasons to Spitfire 9, am currently working on Specialising it in the hope that a couple of years experience & Good equipment may bring it into competitiveness, indications so-far are that it won't be enough though.

Yak-3 -Another turn plane stuck low & slow in the face of other lines getting a lot faster & higher. Like the La-7 I hold out some hope that Specialised it may be redeemed, have not re-purchased though.

Yak-9U -Also working on Specialising it to see if I can make it work better now, its really good looking & the 45mm hits real hard but low & slow makes it pretty difficult to make good use of.

Il-10/8 -They're ok but just not particularly great, Il-8 gets nice powerful guns for ground target killing while the -10 has better agility & 23mm cannons more useful for anti-air work. I may yet buy one/both back & Specialise.

Tu-2 -Another T7 Bomber, I actually never flew this.


Edited by hoom, 11 July 2020 - 12:21 AM.

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SpiritFoxMY #4 Posted 10 July 2020 - 09:02 AM

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Tu-2 isn't a bomber - it's a fat multirole

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And a laurel to crown each end


Dapprman #5 Posted 10 July 2020 - 10:14 AM

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I actually voted that I liked the Ki-93, which I am just about to finish and move to on Japanese MR, however with the exception of the 57mm 1200m sniper gun it is inferior in every way to it's predecessor, the rather excellent Ki-103.

Oddly enough I enjoyed both the IL-8 and Me265 and have completed both GAA routes, however I went back and did the IL-10 and just did not get on with it,


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hoom #6 Posted 10 July 2020 - 11:57 AM

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Oh I forgot the 190D :facepalm:

Neutral.

I enjoyed it enough to keep & Specialise but when I took it out for a spin in a recent-ish Special its just not quick enough or agile enough even with a speed focused build.

It does hit very hard with 2* Mk108s & I always found the long-nose 190s pretty attractive.


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Maqor #7 Posted 10 July 2020 - 02:19 PM

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Like:

Bf109Z - Speed and altitude performance combined with two (or more?) strong gun options.

Ki-93 - A solid sniper cannon on a platform with decent speed and altitude performance.

Ki-84 - Has almost everything you could ask for besides speed and gun range.

P-47N - 120 seconds a sector and can hunt twin-engine planes.

F7F - Maybe I shouldn't like it but it's a heavy fighter with decent firepower.

P-51D - My favorite of the Mustangs. More firepower tier-for-tier than the P-51A and has competitive speed when top tier.

Fw190D - Firepower plus roll rate. Need to play more carefully when bottom tier though.

 

Dislike:

*I-220 - Due to my concussion history, altitude fighters with a lot of speed and agility make me nauseous.

IL-10 - I prefer firepower, ordnance, or speed over maneuverability on a GAA.

 

The rest I find to be very similar but slightly worse clones of other planes in their respective lines: Me329 > Me265, Yak-9/Su-9 > Yak-9U, Tempest/Tornado > Typhoon, F4U-1 > F4U-4, Yak-1M > Yak-3, La-9/La-5 > La-7, Bf109F > Bf109G, IL-20 > IL-8, Mosquito > Hornet.

 

 


Favorites:

Heavy Fighters: P.1056, Ki-93, Bf109Z, XP-58, XP-50, P-38J, Mosquito26, Me410, Beaufighter, SE100, P-38F, Bf110E, Ki-45, Beaufighter5, Bf110B, BlenheimF, Multiroles: P-47B, Fw190A5, Tempest, Tornado, IL-1, F4U-1, S-199, Hurricane 2, Fighters: La-9, Yak-3RD, Vampire, Me209A, Ki-88, Mustang1A, I-210, XP-55, SpitDB, A6M3 exp, XF4U-1, Bf109B, P-36, GAA/Bombers: A-26B, Pe2M82, IL-2mod, IL-2, Me329, He111


qu33kKC #8 Posted 10 July 2020 - 02:32 PM

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I'm liking the F4U-4 and Me 109Z, although they are both pretty new for me.  I definitely like the Dora, B-32, Me 265.  The Tigercat  is (imho) the weakest US HF at tier, I don't MIND it, but I have more fun in the Zweiling these days.  I have struggled with the Mustang and Ju 288A, and struggle MIGHTILY wiith the P-47N.  I like flying the Typhoon, even if it isn't the greatest bird out there.

trikke #9 Posted 15 July 2020 - 03:20 AM

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i love the i-220 (thank you for the tips, brother) and i have love loved the ki-84 for a long time        and both are currently #1 and #2 on the leader board

 

i used to enjoy the Zwilling until i specced it and lost my 20mms      my first 'rude surprise' specialization 


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Maqor #10 Posted 15 July 2020 - 03:44 PM

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View Posttrikke, on 14 July 2020 - 10:20 PM, said:

i love the i-220 (thank you for the tips, brother) and i have love loved the ki-84 for a long time        and both are currently #1 and #2 on the leader board

 

i used to enjoy the Zwilling until i specced it and lost my 20mms      my first 'rude surprise' specialization 

What leader board?


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Heavy Fighters: P.1056, Ki-93, Bf109Z, XP-58, XP-50, P-38J, Mosquito26, Me410, Beaufighter, SE100, P-38F, Bf110E, Ki-45, Beaufighter5, Bf110B, BlenheimF, Multiroles: P-47B, Fw190A5, Tempest, Tornado, IL-1, F4U-1, S-199, Hurricane 2, Fighters: La-9, Yak-3RD, Vampire, Me209A, Ki-88, Mustang1A, I-210, XP-55, SpitDB, A6M3 exp, XF4U-1, Bf109B, P-36, GAA/Bombers: A-26B, Pe2M82, IL-2mod, IL-2, Me329, He111


trikke #11 Posted 15 July 2020 - 03:58 PM

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View PostMaqor, on 15 July 2020 - 10:44 AM, said:

What leader board?

 

your poll       it's a golf term

 

but the 51D has caught and passed the ki-84 just today         i demand a recount


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