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Poll: Tier 9 Tech Tree Planes: Like or Dislike? (17 members have cast votes)

Like? (can select multiple)

  1. FJ-1 (2 votes [4.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.65%

  2. F6U (3 votes [6.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.98%

  3. La-160 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Yak-19 (1 vote [2.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.33%

  5. MiG-9 (5 votes [11.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.63%

  6. Me P.1092 (10 votes [23.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.26%

  7. Ta 183 (3 votes [6.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.98%

  8. Ki-162-I (2 votes [4.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.65%

  9. Attacker (5 votes [11.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.63%

  10. F-84B (3 votes [6.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.98%

  11. F-94D (9 votes [20.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.93%

Like? (can select multiple)

  1. I-211 (3 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

  2. BV P.212 (7 votes [12.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.96%

  3. J7W2 (1 vote [1.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.85%

  4. Sea Hawk (4 votes [7.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.41%

  5. F2H (7 votes [12.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.96%

  6. Me 262 HG II (8 votes [14.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.81%

  7. P.228 (3 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

  8. IL-40 (6 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  9. Me 1099 B-2 (8 votes [14.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.81%

  10. Tu-12 (2 votes [3.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.70%

  11. Ju 287 (5 votes [9.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.26%

Dislike? (can select multiple)

  1. FJ-1 (6 votes [21.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.43%

  2. F6U (3 votes [10.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.71%

  3. La-160 (2 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  4. Yak-19 (1 vote [3.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.57%

  5. MiG-9 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Me P.1092 (1 vote [3.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.57%

  7. Ta 183 (2 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  8. Ki-162-I (3 votes [10.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.71%

  9. Attacker (3 votes [10.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.71%

  10. F-84B (4 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  11. F-94D (3 votes [10.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.71%

Dislike? (can select multiple)

  1. I-211 (3 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  2. BV P.212 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. J7W2 (1 vote [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  4. Sea Hawk (5 votes [23.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.81%

  5. F2H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Me 262 HG II (2 votes [9.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

  7. P.228 (3 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  8. IL-40 (1 vote [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  9. Me 1099 B-2 (1 vote [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  10. Tu-12 (1 vote [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  11. Ju 287 (4 votes [19.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.05%

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Maqor #1 Posted 08 May 2020 - 02:12 AM

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Which tier 9's do you like? Are there any you didn't enjoy? 

 

I've been working up all the tech tree lines fairly evenly, but can't afford them all at once. Any recommendations as to which ones to get first? I have the F-84B and could add 5-6 more.



SpiritFoxMY #2 Posted 08 May 2020 - 02:24 AM

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I like a lot of tier 9s and dislike only two. Some I haven't flown so I have no opinion. Others are rather meh but aren't absolutely terrible either.

 

The really cool ones I'd recommend are the F-94D and Tu-12. They aren't overpowered like the 1092 and 287 but are very strong and rather quirky which is why I like them. The 212.03 is also a great plane but its a little vanilla IMO and suffers against the 1092 which is a very common threat at that tier.


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Captain_Underpants53 #3 Posted 08 May 2020 - 02:56 AM

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The Ju-287 is my second fav bomber.
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Captain_Rownd #4 Posted 08 May 2020 - 03:02 AM

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I like all the ones I have.  MiG-9 is a rocket ship, and Me 1099 B-2 is a rocket sled.  F-84B and Sea Hawk are well rounded.  Yak-19 does the turny thing.  Ta 183 is a funky vienna sausage shaped shotgun. It won't let me vote without putting in dislikes, but I don't dislike any yet.


Edited by Captain_Rownd, 08 May 2020 - 03:04 AM.

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SPAD S.510:: MiG-3 :: I-250 :: Ju 88 P :: He 100 D-1 :: Caudron C.714 :: Me 329 :: MiG-9


hoom #5 Posted 08 May 2020 - 09:22 AM

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A lot of the problem for me is that most of the T9s are really ugly, most are straight-wing & not really refined designs.

 

I've kept only Sea Hawk, Il-40 & P.1092 so far.

Sea Hawk is beautiful, not really all that strong.

Gradually working on specialising P.1092, don't really understand whats happening with it: it looks cool but somehow doesn't feel as good as I had expected, though when I look at stats it does seem to be performing very well.

Il-40 is a powerful GA, ruggedly handsome.

 

Hated Attacker, though there are plenty of Specialist player ones out there that make a very dangerous enemy.

 

I quite liked La-160, kinda want to buy it back to Specialise up but it was my first T9 & it may not hold up in current state of the game.

 

OK to play but ugly so not kept:

FJ-1 was quite enjoyable, I never hated MG armed planes.

Yak-19 is very powerful, suffers less from altitude/speed issues that really hurts Yak-30.

I quite liked MiG-9 in stock airframe but not the upgrade.

I-211 was mostly a surprising joy.

P.228 has great 4* aden firepower.

 

Haven't got round to finishing up Me 1099 B-2, I find it feels much less durable/useful than Il-40.

 

Others I've not flown yet other than Tu-12 which suffers from being a bomber in the era of Player Seeking Missile Heavy bots.

 

F2H, F-94D & F-84B all look strong in their own way.


Edited by hoom, 08 May 2020 - 09:23 AM.

C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le SerB.

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View Posthoom, on 08 May 2020 - 05:22 PM, said:

Gradually working on specialising P.1092, don't really understand whats happening with it: it looks cool but somehow doesn't feel as good as I had expected, though when I look at stats it does seem to be performing very well.

 

The P.1092 is one of those planes that come alive with Specialization. Unspecialized its actually very well balanced - strong but not overpowered, its great turn and massive firepower are held in check by sluggish controls and a mediocre boost. Then you slap Ultimate gear on it and suddenly its the most powerful fighter at tier 9 by a country mile.


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jack_wdw #7 Posted 08 May 2020 - 10:27 AM

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I liked the Mig-9, but haven't flown that one since 2.0 started.
FJ-1 has good speed, turns better than most other T9's, has good altitude performance but weak armament compared to other T9's (same problems f-86 will face at Tier10)
F-94D only for that Vulcan (but this plane is actually crippled thx to assigning it as a MR instead of HF)
F-84b is a plane which I actually like, it has phenomonal loadout, quick reloads, good maneuverability, but equally weak MG armament as fj-1. This plane with Mary as pilot can be a lethal combination.

Sea hawk is biggest turd at T9 for me personally.


I've stopped yak-line at tier8 in 1.9 (altitude nerfing became a nuissance at that tier)
I've stopped Spit-line at tier8 in 1.9, but started grinding that one again recently (because spits made me a lazy player)

I've stopped researching most german and japanese planes at a certain Tier because i'm not interested in paper planes.


 


Edited by jack_wdw, 08 May 2020 - 10:28 AM.


hoom #8 Posted 08 May 2020 - 10:42 AM

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 The P.1092 is one of those planes that come alive with Specialization

 

Yes I'm still chipping away at it because I see that when I get access to those locked slots its going to get much more powerful.

 

Thing is when I fly it, it feels sluggish & lacking sustained firepower.

But whats surprising is I'm already rocking my best T9 stats with it -> its deceptively strong.

 

On the other hand Sea Hawk is the only T9 fighter I've Specialised and I'm quite sure for example if/when I re-purchase La-160 its stats will skyrocket.


Edited by hoom, 08 May 2020 - 10:42 AM.

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losttwo #9 Posted 08 May 2020 - 12:05 PM

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I really enjoyed grinding the Goblin at tier 9.

My other tier 9's i have not flown enough yet to have a favorite.

The only reason some have been flown more than others is due to time of owning them.



qu33kKC #10 Posted 08 May 2020 - 01:16 PM

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Love the Banshee and the German bomber and GAA.

 

hate the Fury, it just isn't enough of anything in my hands to do well reliably. 

 

Those are the only Tier IX that I have.

 

*edit*  forgot, I do have the P.212.03, which is a very FUN plane, if not exactly the most powerful.  Another plane that I don't fly as much as I possibly should.  *edit off*


Edited by qu33kKC, 08 May 2020 - 01:18 PM.


Vann_the_Red #11 Posted 08 May 2020 - 02:35 PM

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Votes register.  Probably my favorite tier of planes.  Lots of good ones, none I hated.  I mean, I didn't keep the Attacker, but it's good.  I thought the Sea Hawk was the worst British MRF.  But I kept it and spec'ed it.

Maqor #12 Posted 08 May 2020 - 11:04 PM

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After 10 votes, comparing the likes to dislikes shows a couple things that surprise me:

1. Me 262 HG II at 6:1 versus P.228 at 1:2. Is there a huge difference in energy retention or controllability?

2. La-160 at 0:2. Is it the guns?

3. Low number of ratings for Yak-19, La-160, J7W2, Tu-12. I thought these were more popular.



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View PostMaqor, on 08 May 2020 - 11:04 PM, said:

After 10 votes, comparing the likes to dislikes shows a couple things that surprise me:

1. Me 262 HG II at 6:1 versus P.228 at 1:2. Is there a huge difference in energy retention or controllability?


I can't speak to the Brit HF, because that line is not really very interesting to me, so I haven't run up it.  (But I am willing to be persuaded.)

 

I can speak to why I keep going back to my HGII, even though I have a specialized F2H which is stupid good at T9, and holds its own at T10.  It was my first tech tree Tier IX, and the contrast between it and the T8 262 was so large - those guns - THOSE GUNS!!!  And sooooo fast....

 

When I'm feeling the need to have an effortless battle, where I'm just enjoying the flying, I almost always pick a German heavy.  And if I'm not feeling particularly Arrow-ish, or Swallow-ish, I'm going to fly the HGII.  It is almost my first choice of a comfort flight airplane.  I fear nothing and nobody when I'm flying that plane.

 

 



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I can't speak to the Brit HF, because that line is not really very interesting to me, so I haven't run up it.  (But I am willing to be persuaded.)

 

I can speak to why I keep going back to my HGII, even though I have a specialized F2H which is stupid good at T9, and holds its own at T10.  It was my first tech tree Tier IX, and the contrast between it and the T8 262 was so large - those guns - THOSE GUNS!!!  And sooooo fast....

 

When I'm feeling the need to have an effortless battle, where I'm just enjoying the flying, I almost always pick a German heavy.  And if I'm not feeling particularly Arrow-ish, or Swallow-ish, I'm going to fly the HGII.  It is almost my first choice of a comfort flight airplane.  I fear nothing and nobody when I'm flying that plane.

 

 


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View PostMaqor, on 09 May 2020 - 07:04 AM, said:

After 10 votes, comparing the likes to dislikes shows a couple things that surprise me:

1. Me 262 HG II at 6:1 versus P.228 at 1:2. Is there a huge difference in energy retention or controllability?

2. La-160 at 0:2. Is it the guns?

3. Low number of ratings for Yak-19, La-160, J7W2, Tu-12. I thought these were more popular.

 

1. The difference is top speed and acceleration. The P.228 is a bit of an underrated gem IMO - its really good at high-speed dogfighting, but you're slow enough that you cannot afford to load the rockets unlike the HG II which can afford to carry the R4Ms without suffering against other heavies. Its a basically a bit outside the usual Heavy style.

 

2. Its the guns. I kinda like the La-160 but I can't love it because the guns just lack burst length and reliability.

 

 


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hoom #16 Posted 09 May 2020 - 01:13 AM

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 1. Me 262 HG II at 6:1 versus P.228 at 1:2. Is there a huge difference in energy retention or controllability?

2. La-160 at 0:2. Is it the guns?

 Haven't got the Me 262 HG II yet (maybe a bit later in the weekend), P.228 has great firepower but its ugly, not amazingly fast or agile.

It was a relatively low-pain grind to Javelin but I never thought about keeping it.

 

This is NA server, lots of ppl love their Nazi gear, few like Soviets & among those that do play Soviets the La line isn't very popular.

I've been on a purchasing spree with the current special, just rebought La-160, got 2 of the 3* US T9s I mentioned above, now to find some pilots & equipment to put on them...


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jack_wdw #17 Posted 09 May 2020 - 07:45 AM

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The poll is flawed.
I had to select a random plane which i 'like' in the second section and a random plane which i dislike in the third section,
otherwise my votes for the other two sections could't be cast.
There were no planes which i like in the second section and no planes i dislike in the third section of the poll.

hoom #18 Posted 10 May 2020 - 12:17 PM

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So this weekend I've bought & started flying: 262 HG II, F2H, F-94D & F-84B.

 

Early running I'm really liking HGII & surprisingly F-84B with unexpected agility & happiness at height, same firepower as the Sabre for rapid burnination of anything.

 

F-94D is a big chore of a stock grind.

F2H was better with the gun upgrade (which will help the F-94D) & last battle got it Elite so hopefully will be more impressive tomorrow.

 

Edit: I should add this is at least partially a result of shared modules, I carefully chose my path through German tree so that I have the top Engine & Guns on HGII from stock, F-84B shares upgraded guns & first Engine upgrade with FJ-1.

The other two only share Ordnance & 20mm Gun upgrade (normally I'd only fly one of these until I got it researched so one of them wouldn't have to suffer the fully stock grind but I was eager to make use of the 5*)


Edited by hoom, 10 May 2020 - 12:29 PM.

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Dapprman #19 Posted 10 May 2020 - 05:58 PM

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Actually flying three lvl 9s at the moment so I can answer those on personal experience.

 

Ones I've already gone through:

Me1099 B-2 and IL-40 - thoroughly enjoyed both though I httnk I needed gun upgrades on both to be truly happy.

P-228 - hated it at first, but once upgraded I really enjoyed it - Javelin felt like a major let down.  Not sure if I paid for the specialisation on it (I don;t tend to on planes I'm passing through).

 

Present tier 9s (all fully researched, none specialised):

Sea Hawk - will be glad when I'm through this this as it is truly hateful.  Fully upgrading makes a massive difference but it's still a pollished t*rd

Attacker - I actually like this plane.  It does feel middle of the pack and seriously outclassed when more than one or two tier X planes are around but I still tend to enjoy it.

F-94D - In two minds about this.  Actually prefer the second gun but have kept with the vulcan.  I don't particular enjoy flying this plane, which is odd as I rarely get less than 10k points in it, so on scores it's the best non-GAA for me I've flown. 


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