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vcharng #1 Posted 22 April 2020 - 02:55 PM

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I know some would probably tell me to just go through them, but... let's assume that I am to skip one of them.

Should it be Ju 288A or 288C?

I'm thinking about skipping 288A for lack of outboard modification (unless specced)

But on the other hand, 288C using 8x 250 kg bombs at T8 doesn't sound too impressive, either...

I'd like to hear opinions from other German bomber veterans who probably have experience in both: Which one performs worse? (Especially, is there any one of them worse than 217M I'm currently flying?)

 

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Funny you should ask... I'd skip the Do217M.

 

Personally I kinda liked the Ju288A. Haven't bought the 288C yet but Rei gives it good reviews. It certainly has better defensive firepower so you have that going for you. The 288A is also a tier 7 so its stuck at a tier where you're still at risk from tier 6 heavies but get to meet tier 8 heavies. Also Tu-1 which will just straight out murder you. Might as well go for the 288C.


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I wouldn't skip either of them.
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Is bombing even worth it anymore? It seems like they nurfed bombing a lot since I last played

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View PostSink_Stuff, on 22 April 2020 - 02:39 PM, said:

Is bombing even worth it anymore? It seems like they nurfed bombing a lot since I last played

 

Uh....YES.    :sceptic:


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View PostSink_Stuff, on 22 April 2020 - 07:39 PM, said:

Is bombing even worth it anymore? It seems like they nurfed bombing a lot since I last played

You're probably talking about the Demolition Expert nerf, but it's not really that bad. I'd say the HF proficiency milestone adjustment (which requires them to focus on killing Bombers and GAAs) is more significant than that.

View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 22 April 2020 - 03:38 PM, said:

Funny you should ask... I'd skip the Do217M.

 

[omitted]The 288A is also a tier 7 so its stuck at a tier where you're still at risk from tier 6 heavies but get to meet tier 8 heavies. Also Tu-1 which will just straight out murder you.

Yeah I thought about that. 217M isn't all that good as well. But at least I already got a specced 217M.

 

From my experience, HFs begin to lose effectiveness in T9 (where you and your targets are too fast and you can't guarantee the shotdown to happen within the cap zone)

and I can delete a full HP human specced B32 with a specced Me 410 or even a P-38J, don't think 288A would fare any better.

 

I thought about a third option after the OP: skip both 288A and 288C's stock grind, but not the full plane. But that would basically require me to still waste lots of tokens on 288A.

 

Also two questions: what is Ju 287's SC1000 reload time? is it the same as the stock SD500x4 or 10 seconds longer?

and, am I right? 288C has outboard weapon modification since stock? I guessed that from my RB-17 which is also T8 but obviously I have no way to be sure.

 


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View Postvcharng, on 22 April 2020 - 02:06 PM, said:

 

I thought about a third option after the OP: skip both 288A and 288C's stock grind, but not the full plane. But that would basically require me to still waste lots of tokens on 288A.

 

Also two questions: what is Ju 287's SC1000 reload time? is it the same as the stock SD500x4 or 10 seconds longer?

and, am I right? 288C has outboard weapon modification since stock? I guessed that from my RB-17 which is also T8 but obviously I have no way to be sure.

 

Tech tree bombers getting ordnance slots available outside of specialist, that's a pretty good joke my dude.

 

Ju-287 has 50s reload time on the SC1000's, yes. Also no neither it nor the EF-131 get ordnance slots unlocked when in stock-config.

 

If you're to skip any: skip Ju-288A, and FXP the 15mm turret on the Ju-288C so you have actual defensive capabilities against tier 8 HF's.

 


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View PostReitousair, on 22 April 2020 - 09:26 PM, said:

 

Tech tree bombers getting ordnance slots available outside of specialist, that's a pretty good joke my dude.

 

Ju-287 has 50s reload time on the SC1000's, yes. Also no neither it nor the EF-131 get ordnance slots unlocked when in stock-config.

 

Ack, so it's not a problem of tier but tech tree... damn.in other words I need to prepare to FE all the way to elite and to simply purchase Spec with tokens if I want to have full power in day one.

Hmm so Ju 287 is exactly the same with EF131 in terms of bombs.....



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Ju-288A isn't that bad. Any T7/8 HF will kill you so you just have to avoid them. Bombs don't always fall true and you don't have enough HP to endure multiple sectors so it's a matter of when not if you die in a battle. Ju-288C is a step up and you can actually defend yourself as mentioned before. The Ju-287 and EF are crazy but still fragile. I've seen some players fly them no higher than 2km all game and cap like crazy. By the time I killed that 287, it had already capped his MP, respawned across the map and capped our MP before I can get there. 

I spent all battle chasing him to try to defend but I was always one step behind and not attacking anything else. Those players have to have a specific build, bomb by feeling (no bomb sight), and know exactly how to approach each sector to cap in one pass. It's def not easy, I've had middling success using the 287 that way but can never survive more that 2-3 bombing runs. I think I'll have to go the conventional high alt route but it is an amazing bomber. 

But to answer your question, I'd say the Ju-288A. 

 


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I skipped the 288A because I already had a T7 bomber that was good.  The Ju288C is a steady bird, and does good work.  The Ju287 is a brutal T9 bomber, and can drop and get out of the cap in an eye blink.  I quite like it.

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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 23 April 2020 - 07:48 PM, said:

I skipped the 288A because I already had a T7 bomber that was good. The Ju288C is a steady bird, and does good work. The Ju287 is a brutal T9 bomber, and can drop and get out of the cap in an eye blink. I quite like it.

I am already drooling at 287 just be seeing the catalog stats....

three digit climb rate wth.....

with 288C's 60-ish climb rate I'm already looking at 40 degrees climb @2500m. I'm probably gonna go vertical when I get that 120-ish climb rate for EF131...

 

Yes, HFs have even better climb rate, but their boost gauge is only half your amount. Which means high tier German bombers would likely out-climb HFs at extreme altitude...



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View Postvcharng, on 24 April 2020 - 08:30 AM, said:

I am already drooling at 287 just be seeing the catalog stats....

three digit climb rate wth.....

with 288C's 60-ish climb rate I'm already looking at 40 degrees climb @2500m. I'm probably gonna go vertical when I get that 120-ish climb rate for EF131...

 

Yes, HFs have even better climb rate, but their boost gauge is only half your amount. Which means high tier German bombers would likely out-climb HFs at extreme altitude...

 

They outrun them on the flat already. Why bother going to the moon when you can just point your tail at them and run away? If he chases, you just dakka him down at 1.2km and he can't do crap. And the EF131 is the Lightly Armed One. The Su-10 has more firepower coming out its [edited]than the Russian fighters have coming out their nose and has a 1.2km range on them to boot. And 2200HP

 

High tier bombers are absolute cancer.


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