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Silence6966 #1 Posted 06 April 2020 - 01:54 AM

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make it more fun lol, why are there maps for tier 1 2 3 where you spend more time flying between objectives than fighting? they need smaller tighter better maps so that when I am doing my dailies I can just kill seals and not waste so much time. also put some damn airfields in those maps with wrenches.

and just because I am annoyed you still havent balanced some of these planes at all, fix the planes that are hot garbage, this means the american planes and the focke wulfs and the mosquito because all of those planes suck and are literally no fun to play.
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SpiritFoxMY #2 Posted 06 April 2020 - 02:05 AM

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Th Focke Wulfs are really fun to play when I'm clubbing you with it :trollface:

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View PostSilence6966, on 06 April 2020 - 01:54 AM, said:

make it more fun lol, why are there maps for tier 1 2 3 where you spend more time flying between objectives than fighting? they need smaller tighter better maps so that when I am doing my dailies I can just kill seals and not waste so much time. also put some damn airfields in those maps with wrenches.

and just because I am annoyed you still havent balanced some of these planes at all, fix the planes that are hot garbage, this means the american planes and the focke wulfs and the mosquito because all of those planes suck and are literally no fun to play.


Hmmm, I would argue that folks who know how to fly those FWs can club all day.  I love some of those American planes you hate:  The F2H is the best HF at T9.  I would argue that the XF-90 is the best T10 HF.  T8?  The XF5U is not as strong as it used to be, but it is still VERY strong.  The P-38s can own the skies in T5 and 6.

Want to not spend so much time flying?  Fly a FW-57.  Or an F2A.  Or an Ar-68.

 

 



losttwo #4 Posted 06 April 2020 - 02:30 AM

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You are still flying in tier 1&2, :teethhappy::teethhappy::teethhappy::facepalm:

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Silence6966 #6 Posted 06 April 2020 - 02:41 AM

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 05 April 2020 - 07:05 PM, said:

Th Focke Wulfs are really fun to play when I'm clubbing you with it :trollface:

lol I think you might have snuck up on me with it once or twice but hardly seal clubbing.


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American-F2a1, P36c, P-38f, XP55,
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Japanese- Type91,KI431,KI45  KI 61, KI102,
Israeli-S199 best plane ever
international-b-534,

But Corvus says I only fly vampires and spitfires and Corvus knows everything.

deepfry #7 Posted 06 April 2020 - 02:42 AM

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Silence, you seal clubbing bastard. I want you out of my clan... lol 



Silence6966 #8 Posted 06 April 2020 - 02:44 AM

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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 05 April 2020 - 07:28 PM, said:


Hmmm, I would argue that folks who know how to fly those FWs can club all day.  I love some of those American planes you hate:  The F2H is the best HF at T9.  I would argue that the XF-90 is the best T10 HF.  T8?  The XF5U is not as strong as it used to be, but it is still VERY strong.  The P-38s can own the skies in T5 and 6.

Want to not spend so much time flying?  Fly a FW-57.  Or an F2A.  Or an Ar-68.

 

 

very few guys get good scores with fockewulfs, you literally have to sneak up on people, I feast on them with my s199. the tier 8,9 10 arent worth the horrific grind that is the american line and besides, I eat those with my german light fighter. the first p38 is great the second is ok. I dont really like the 57 its boring to fly and the f2a is a fast easy kill lol


If at first you don't succeed, give up loser, you suck. or man up, get better and win

Russian- I-16e, I-17,Yak7m82, Yak3rd, la5, I210, I220 Yak3, yak1m, yak 15, 
Germans-Ar-67, spitv DB605, BF109B, BF109E, BF110e, ME410, BF109z,ME209A,MEP1092
American-F2a1, P36c, P-38f, XP55,
British-Bulldog, venom,Spitfire1,SpitfireV ,SpitfireXIV,Vampire, Attacker, Hurricane1, Tornado, Typhoon, Tempest,
Japanese- Type91,KI431,KI45  KI 61, KI102,
Israeli-S199 best plane ever
international-b-534,

But Corvus says I only fly vampires and spitfires and Corvus knows everything.

Silence6966 #9 Posted 06 April 2020 - 02:45 AM

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View Postdeepfry, on 05 April 2020 - 07:42 PM, said:

Silence, you seal clubbing bastard. I want you out of my clan... lol 

ummno

View Postlosttwo, on 05 April 2020 - 07:30 PM, said:

You are still flying in tier 1&2, :teethhappy::teethhappy::teethhappy::facepalm:

yeah for my dailies, I actually love the biplanes, I wanted them to make ww1 planes for tier 1, flying sopwith camels and se5a's would be awesome


If at first you don't succeed, give up loser, you suck. or man up, get better and win

Russian- I-16e, I-17,Yak7m82, Yak3rd, la5, I210, I220 Yak3, yak1m, yak 15, 
Germans-Ar-67, spitv DB605, BF109B, BF109E, BF110e, ME410, BF109z,ME209A,MEP1092
American-F2a1, P36c, P-38f, XP55,
British-Bulldog, venom,Spitfire1,SpitfireV ,SpitfireXIV,Vampire, Attacker, Hurricane1, Tornado, Typhoon, Tempest,
Japanese- Type91,KI431,KI45  KI 61, KI102,
Israeli-S199 best plane ever
international-b-534,

But Corvus says I only fly vampires and spitfires and Corvus knows everything.

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personal favorite is the ME410. Its guns are beast and you only need one pass at anything. 



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I don't play T2-T3, but when I do...  I find the maps are pretty good. 

 

In between capture points, you will always find the odd bot or human to lop off on your way the the next cap, so it's not a total waste.  Many times, everyone congregates over the center even though there is no cap point there.  I find these low tier maps actually teach you strategy early on.  Sure, you can't go major subsonic like at T9/10, but you can get to where you are going and earn some XP on the way.  BTW, I don't headhunt humans, but if I find them spamming the center where there are no caps, I do try to send them on their way to hopefully learn better.

 

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WhoaBlackBetty #12 Posted 06 April 2020 - 04:38 AM

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This is coming from what you would call a clubber, it needs to be fixed. No idea how, and nothing can be fixed till we have a LOT more humans, but I am hopeful.

 

I do agree with the smaller map thoughts for tiers 1,2, and 3. OMG I do so agree.  This would also require not placing tier 3s against T4s on a tier 4 map.  This is impossible with only the 5 to 10 (sarcasm) pilots who fly regularly.  The answer is what it has been since WP lost almost all its pilots way back, NEEDS MORE HUMANS.  Not gonna happen in this present iteration.

 

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View PostSilence6966, on 06 April 2020 - 02:44 AM, said:

very few guys get good scores with fockewulfs, you literally have to sneak up on people, I feast on them with my s199. the tier 8,9 10 arent worth the horrific grind that is the american line and besides, I eat those with my german light fighter. the first p38 is great the second is ok. I dont really like the 57 its boring to fly and the f2a is a fast easy kill lol

I don't have to sneak up on anyone.  I just smash them in the face and blast away.  Your S-199 is a great plane - I have one myself.  But it isn't as fast, and doesn't have the guns of the A-5. In the game of BnZ , the FW wins.  The only way the Sakeen has a prayer is to use the altitude advantage.  And keep it.

 

Heck, the F4U is a plane with the advantage on the S-199.  But the FW is better.

 

You don't eat P-38s flown by humans in your light fighter, unless those folks aren't trying.  The 38F is faster than any other tech tree plane at tier.  The only plane faster is the Me-209V4, and as an owner of the V4, I chase down P-38s on purpose.  But other than that, the 38F will be dictate the battle, to everyone.  It is the most capable plane at T5.  The journey up that line is unbroken excellence, except maybe the Tigercat.  Maybe.  It can be the line fastest to T10, due to the capabilities of all the aircraft.  

 

For those with patience, and the willingness to learn how to fly them properly.

 

LOL, bro, you're not killing any F2A flown by a pilot who knows how to BnZ.  You're just dead meat.  The only plane fast enough to catch it is the FW-57.  And yes  those 20k PP games are super-boring.  Dude, just LOL.



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:coin: Which clubber to fly?...hmm

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what Corvus sez about American heavies, and why.  :great:

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yet oddly enough you almost never see american planes in the top 3 other than the occasional p38's in tier 5 and 6. I'll keep an eye out the next few games just to see but I honestly cannot recall an american plane taking top spot in a long time , other than an f94 in an game where it was the high tier. the game simply need better balance every line should have at least one decent plane per tier that isnt a hard grind.

the american planes are garbage, the p51 is ok if you only chase heavies but you have to be so close and it takes so long that other guys get on your tail, and I stand by what I said about the FW planes, they are almost never in the top 3. the ascender is decent but again MG's have no range.I will see what happens with the heavies after the second p38.
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Germans-Ar-67, spitv DB605, BF109B, BF109E, BF110e, ME410, BF109z,ME209A,MEP1092
American-F2a1, P36c, P-38f, XP55,
British-Bulldog, venom,Spitfire1,SpitfireV ,SpitfireXIV,Vampire, Attacker, Hurricane1, Tornado, Typhoon, Tempest,
Japanese- Type91,KI431,KI45  KI 61, KI102,
Israeli-S199 best plane ever
international-b-534,

But Corvus says I only fly vampires and spitfires and Corvus knows everything.

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View PostSilence6966, on 06 April 2020 - 07:30 PM, said:

yet oddly enough you almost never see american planes in the top 3 other than the occasional p38's in tier 5 and 6. I'll keep an eye out the next few games just to see but I honestly cannot recall an american plane taking top spot in a long time , other than an f94 in an game where it was the high tier. the game simply need better balance every line should have at least one decent plane per tier that isnt a hard grind.

the american planes are garbage, the p51 is ok if you only chase heavies but you have to be so close and it takes so long that other guys get on your tail, and I stand by what I said about the FW planes, they are almost never in the top 3. the ascender is decent but again MG's have no range.I will see what happens with the heavies after the second p38.


???  You are mistaken sir.   Watch those American bombers!  ignore that B-17D


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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 07 April 2020 - 12:40 AM, said:


???  You are mistaken sir.   Watch those American bombers!


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The only reason I play planes under T5 is dailies.  I almost never play planes below T4.  When I play a T4 and there are 3s in the game, I feel filthy.  I love Veebat's suggestion that they change the dailies so you pick what tier group you want to complete the daily at and the reward depends on that.  That way, new folk can complete it in the T1-4 range for 1 token and others can do it at the T8-10 level for more.  And I don't have to club any more seals.  Save the seals!  :-)

 

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I never play below Tier III, not because I worry about the seals, but because that is as low as the bombers go.  But I also like Veebat's idea.

 

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