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Content_WG #1 Posted 03 March 2020 - 11:27 AM

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losttwo #2 Posted 03 March 2020 - 06:03 PM

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But I can get all that stuff for free if I play the game.

So, why should I spend money for free stuff.

 

 

You know like maybe toss in a premium plane of higher than tier 4  if you buy the bundles.

Or maybe some GOLD of more than 1000+

Give us an actual reason to purchase and spend money.

 

 



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wylleEcoyote #4 Posted 03 March 2020 - 08:42 PM

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View Postlosttwo, on 03 March 2020 - 01:03 PM, said:

But I can get all that stuff for free if I play the game.

So, why should I spend money for free stuff.


This is for the wallet warriors that have more important things to do with their precious time on this earth than be anything more than a 'filthy' casual in this game. 

But for anyone else interested in figuring out the underlaying meta theories for this game ...
it tells you what WeeGee thinks is a good equipment build for individual classes.  

And for anyone else ...  24 bucks for 100 mech parts, 30 frame parts, and 20 of everything else. 
oh yeah and 5 free equipment at advanced level is worth almost the same amount of parts even if you disassemble them. (please dont its really not optimal)


Edited by wylleEcoyote, 03 March 2020 - 08:53 PM.

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is much like my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.

Specialist Planes earned: Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:  P-23, XP-31, Model 81A-1P-39N-1, P-40, XP-55, P-51A, XF15C, Bristol 146, DH.100 F1, Spitfire V DB 605,
Fw 56/159, He 51/112, Ar 68/80, Bf 109 B/E/-3/F, Me 209 v4/A, Me P.1092, I-17
MultiRole Fighters: Type 91, P-12/-26/-35/-43, XP-44, P-47B, F11C-2, F4F, 
Ar 65, Fw 190 A-1/A-5/D, I-5 /15 /16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: P-38 F/J, P-82BXP-58, Beaufighter,  Ao 192, Fw 57, Bf 110 B/C-6/E, Me 410, Do 335 A-1, Me 262, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: Hs 123/129 A, Ha 137, Ju 87 G, Me 265, Me 1099 B-2
Bombers: Do 17 Z, He 111 H2, Pe-2, Do 217 M
 


losttwo #5 Posted 03 March 2020 - 10:59 PM

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View PostwylleEcoyote, on 03 March 2020 - 03:42 PM, said:


This is for the wallet warriors that have more important things to do with their precious time on this earth than be anything more than a 'filthy' casual in this game. 

But for anyone else interested in figuring out the underlaying meta theories for this game ...
it tells you what WeeGee thinks is a good equipment build for individual classes.  

And for anyone else ...  24 bucks for 100 mech parts, 30 frame parts, and 20 of everything else. 
oh yeah and 5 free equipment at advanced level is worth almost the same amount of parts even if you disassemble them. (please dont its really not optimal)


but i am one of those filthy casual gamers.

I play in my robe and Jammies before I get my shower and get busy for the day.

 

As for wallet warrior. I would rather buy a premium plane or gold.

I admit to using gold for the paint schemes


Edited by losttwo, 03 March 2020 - 11:01 PM.


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View PostwylleEcoyote, on 03 March 2020 - 08:42 PM, said:


This is for the wallet warriors that have more important things to do with their precious time on this earth than be anything more than a 'filthy' casual in this game. 

But for anyone else interested in figuring out the underlaying meta theories for this game ...
it tells you what WeeGee thinks is a good equipment build for individual classes.  

And for anyone else ...  24 bucks for 100 mech parts, 30 frame parts, and 20 of everything else. 
oh yeah and 5 free equipment at advanced level is worth almost the same amount of parts even if you disassemble them. (please dont its really not optimal)

So, for about 5 sawbucks, I can get 200 mechanical parts?  Considering I need those to get ultimate on at least three different airplane builds, why not buy?  And considering how much parts and pieces are required for making advanced equipment...



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View PostwylleEcoyote, on 03 March 2020 - 03:42 PM, said:


This is for the wallet warriors that have more important things to do with their precious time on this earth than be anything more than a 'filthy' casual in this game. 

But for anyone else interested in figuring out the underlaying meta theories for this game ...
it tells you what WeeGee thinks is a good equipment build for individual classes.  

And for anyone else ...  24 bucks for 100 mech parts, 30 frame parts, and 20 of everything else. 
oh yeah and 5 free equipment at advanced level is worth almost the same amount of parts even if you disassemble them. (please dont its really not optimal)

not quite.  a good equipment build varies by plane not just class.  you wouldn't use the same build on a P51 as you would on a zero.  besides how many fighters in period 2 even have a gun slot to use the gas action?

 

and all those "extra" materials you get is going to be completely consumed trying to get them calibrated AFTER you get them to ultimate and you still wont have enough.  

 

I'm not opposed to spending money on the game but this deal seems way over priced and there is nothing unique to give it the buy it now factor.  I wouldn't recommend buying these.  If it was special projects equipment or something that isn't usually available that would be a different story.  MAYBE and that's a big MAYBE if it was ultimate and fully calibrated for that price I would consider it but not as it stands.

 

P.S.  I usually give buy recommendations in my clan when good deals come around.  maybe I should start doing it on the forums.  I'm thinking like stock picks except instead of buy hold or sell I could give a rating to how good a deal it is.  would anybody be interested?


Edited by Greg_Pattinson, 04 March 2020 - 12:56 AM.


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View PostGreg_Pattinson, on 03 March 2020 - 07:49 PM, said:

not quite.  a good equipment build varies by plane not just class.  you wouldn't use the same build on a P51 as you would on a zero.  besides how many fighters in period 2 even have a gun slot to use the gas action?

 

and all those "extra" materials you get is going to be completely consumed trying to get them calibrated AFTER you get them to ultimate and you still wont have enough.  

 

I'm not opposed to spending money on the game but this deal seems way over priced and there is nothing unique to give it the buy it now factor.  I wouldn't recommend buying these.  If it was special projects equipment or something that isn't usually available that would be a different story.  MAYBE and that's a big MAYBE if it was ultimate and fully calibrated for that price I would consider it but not as it stands.

 

P.S.  I usually give buy recommendations in my clan when good deals come around.  maybe I should start doing it on the forums.  I'm thinking like stock picks except instead of buy hold or sell I could give a rating to how good a deal it is.  would anybody be interested?

 

Absolutely we would love to hear your recommendations!      I always assume that they are good deals, so help us out, please


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wylleEcoyote #9 Posted 04 March 2020 - 05:56 AM

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View PostGreg_Pattinson, on 03 March 2020 - 07:49 PM, said:

not quite.  a good equipment build varies by plane not just class.  you wouldn't use the same build on a P51 as you would on a zero.  besides how many fighters in period 2 even have a gun slot to use the gas action?

 

and all those "extra" materials you get is going to be completely consumed trying to get them calibrated AFTER you get them to ultimate and you still wont have enough.  

 

I'm not opposed to spending money on the game but this deal seems way over priced and there is nothing unique to give it the buy it now factor.  I wouldn't recommend buying these.  If it was special projects equipment or something that isn't usually available that would be a different story.  MAYBE and that's a big MAYBE if it was ultimate and fully calibrated for that price I would consider it but not as it stands.

 

P.S.  I usually give buy recommendations in my clan when good deals come around.  maybe I should start doing it on the forums.  I'm thinking like stock picks except instead of buy hold or sell I could give a rating to how good a deal it is.  would anybody be interested?


Your not wrong per se. 
Although the cost seems about right.
last time i bought equipment though the shop it was because a tier 8 premium (XF-15C) came bundled with a unique skin and five pieces of Ultimate Equipment for an additional 28(?) bucks. 
yes its ultimate. yes its tier 8 but no it didnt come with any materials.  I got the bundle for the gear and a tier 8 fighter at a time when i had neither. I was pleasantly surprised at the fun plane.
So getting an advanced set of gear for mid tiers with enough mats to upgrade 2 of them to ultimate for 30~ish bucks seems about right.
I wouldnt say that this is a super deal but you arent getting ripped off either. 

The real deciding factor is  TIME.    I agree that there is nothing here that you can get by just grinding the game long enough.
But would you rather grind a game or play a game?   That's the question and the correct answer will varry from one player to the next.. 

If your REALLY good at this sort of thing ... like Reitousair good ... you can get the parts in a weekend. Or a long day.  
and presuming that Rei skipped calibration ...  they could use the parts gained to enhance 2 stock pieces of equipment up to advanced. 
or Rei can spend 30 bucks and get a full set in a few seconds. And spent that day flying in some buffed up gear. 
Although Rei is the kind of player that can beat most people with ultimate gear in a stock plane. 

For the rest of us mere mortals that dont see 10k points or more in their average game. ...  it may take us a bit longer than a day. or a week. to do the same thing.  
 


Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is much like my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.

Specialist Planes earned: Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:  P-23, XP-31, Model 81A-1P-39N-1, P-40, XP-55, P-51A, XF15C, Bristol 146, DH.100 F1, Spitfire V DB 605,
Fw 56/159, He 51/112, Ar 68/80, Bf 109 B/E/-3/F, Me 209 v4/A, Me P.1092, I-17
MultiRole Fighters: Type 91, P-12/-26/-35/-43, XP-44, P-47B, F11C-2, F4F, 
Ar 65, Fw 190 A-1/A-5/D, I-5 /15 /16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: P-38 F/J, P-82BXP-58, Beaufighter,  Ao 192, Fw 57, Bf 110 B/C-6/E, Me 410, Do 335 A-1, Me 262, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: Hs 123/129 A, Ha 137, Ju 87 G, Me 265, Me 1099 B-2
Bombers: Do 17 Z, He 111 H2, Pe-2, Do 217 M
 


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View PostwylleEcoyote, on 04 March 2020 - 12:56 AM, said:


Your not wrong per se. 
Although the cost seems about right.
last time i bought equipment though the shop it was because a tier 8 premium (XF-15C) came bundled with a unique skin and five pieces of Ultimate Equipment for an additional 28(?) bucks. 
yes its ultimate. yes its tier 8 but no it didnt come with any materials.  I got the bundle for the gear and a tier 8 fighter at a time when i had neither. I was pleasantly surprised at the fun plane.
So getting an advanced set of gear for mid tiers with enough mats to upgrade 2 of them to ultimate for 30~ish bucks seems about right.
I wouldnt say that this is a super deal but you arent getting ripped off either. 

The real deciding factor is  TIME.    I agree that there is nothing here that you can get by just grinding the game long enough.
But would you rather grind a game or play a game?   That's the question and the correct answer will varry from one player to the next.. 

If your REALLY good at this sort of thing ... like Reitousair good ... you can get the parts in a weekend. Or a long day.  
and presuming that Rei skipped calibration ...  they could use the parts gained to enhance 2 stock pieces of equipment up to advanced. 
or Rei can spend 30 bucks and get a full set in a few seconds. And spent that day flying in some buffed up gear. 
Although Rei is the kind of player that can beat most people with ultimate gear in a stock plane. 

For the rest of us mere mortals that dont see 10k points or more in their average game. ...  it may take us a bit longer than a day. or a week. to do the same thing.  
 


theoretically you could wallet warrior everything but at that point why even play the game? You arn't advancing or getting anywhere.  What I had in mind is more for the budget minded.  There are sales all the time so how do you get the most bang for your buck?

 

1 special pilots (the girls)

2 special projects equipment

3 special award planes that you cant just use in game gold to buy

4 special paint particularly chrome.

5 high skill point pilots (the grind for pilot skills is the longest grind in the game) 

 

These are all things that are rare but do come up in the premium shop from time to time and are even more rare to win in game.  They are also the things that are going to make you win more and get more points because your plane will just be better than the same equivalent plane flown by someone else.  By winning more and scoring more everything else comes as a by product.  You make more silver, more materials, more free xp, more crew xp, and win more event prizes.  

 

As far as this deal goes for the sake of the money I would rather just fly a plane I already have equipped with the stuff I listed and make the materials than to spend the money and not even fully equip a plane that still wont be as good.  I would also consider buying crates over this deal because you will get materials in crates but you can also get more valuable prizes as well.  crates arnt a particularly good deal either but still better than this


Edited by Greg_Pattinson, 04 March 2020 - 01:54 PM.


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View PostGreg_Pattinson, on 04 March 2020 - 08:48 AM, said:


theoretically you could wallet warrior everything but at that point why even play the game? You arn't advancing or getting anywhere.  What I had in mind is more for the budget minded.  There are sales all the time so how do you get the most bang for your buck?

 

1 special pilots (the girls)

2 special projects equipment

3 special award planes that you cant just use in game gold to buy

4 special paint particularly chrome.

5 high skill point pilots (the grind for pilot skills is the longest grind in the game) 

 

These are all things that are rare but do come up in the premium shop from time to time and are even more rare to win in game.  They are also the things that are going to make you win more and get more points because your plane will just be better than the same equivalent plane flown by someone else.  By winning more and scoring more everything else comes as a by product.  You make more silver, more materials, more free xp, more crew xp, and win more event prizes.  

 

As far as this deal goes for the sake of the money I would rather just fly a plane I already have equipped with the stuff I listed and make the materials than to spend the money and not even fully equip a plane that still wont be as good.  I would also consider buying crates over this deal because you will get materials in crates but you can also get more valuable prizes as well.  crates arnt a particularly good deal either but still better than this


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no kidding?     Pilot skills have been sold in the premium shop?

I'm not talking Charlotte skills, just skills available for any old pilot?

because I would wallet warrior the f outta that!     

I can't believe the amount of things that I miss out on,  just because I'm not paying attention


edit:   just realized that this offer allows me to stop clubbing to accumulate mech parts


Edited by trikke, 04 March 2020 - 08:11 PM.

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View Posttrikke, on 04 March 2020 - 01:14 PM, said:

no kidding?     Pilot skills have been sold in the premium shop?

I'm not talking Charlotte skills, just skills available for any old pilot?

because I would wallet warrior the f outta that!     

I can't believe the amount of things that I miss out on,  just because I'm not paying attention


I didn't say pilot skills I said high skill point pilots and no I'm not talking about the girls.  they usually come as part of bundles.  5 and 7 point pilots are no big deal.  9 point pilots usually come with t8 premiums bundles.  they have the plane, pilot, paint, equipment, and a couple crates.  Those are the good bundles and they are almost worth buying just for the pilot and other extras even if you already have the plane. Really its everything you need to fly it.  I have even seen pilots with more than 9 skill points but that is really rare.  



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technically; that has been in game from day one. 

In theory you fly a premium plane. Turn off the accelerated training. 50% xp goes to crew after battle. 50% sits on the plane. a small bit is made as free xp. 
Spend gold to convert the plane xp to free xp at a one for one ratio.
Burn that new pile of free xp on pilot training and each free xp point is worth 5 pilot xp.   

Thats ALOT OF GOLD though. 
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Speaking of premium time, premium time is also a way to side step the grind.
Literally all gains (personal points, credits, xp multipliers) are increased by a further 50%  and seeing as pp gain factors into how much mats you farm even that is affected.  

Looking for another way to spend gold for pilot skills? xp boosters (100/200/300% xp for 1/2/3/hours) are also a thing that exists. 

 

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is much like my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.

Specialist Planes earned: Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:  P-23, XP-31, Model 81A-1P-39N-1, P-40, XP-55, P-51A, XF15C, Bristol 146, DH.100 F1, Spitfire V DB 605,
Fw 56/159, He 51/112, Ar 68/80, Bf 109 B/E/-3/F, Me 209 v4/A, Me P.1092, I-17
MultiRole Fighters: Type 91, P-12/-26/-35/-43, XP-44, P-47B, F11C-2, F4F, 
Ar 65, Fw 190 A-1/A-5/D, I-5 /15 /16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: P-38 F/J, P-82BXP-58, Beaufighter,  Ao 192, Fw 57, Bf 110 B/C-6/E, Me 410, Do 335 A-1, Me 262, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: Hs 123/129 A, Ha 137, Ju 87 G, Me 265, Me 1099 B-2
Bombers: Do 17 Z, He 111 H2, Pe-2, Do 217 M
 


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Are there any planes that these kits would match perfectly with? Thinking mostly of fighters, multiroles, & heavies but are there any?

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I can tell you that the bomber kits do fit fairly well.  I don't know about any of the others.
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View Posttrikke, on 03 March 2020 - 10:14 PM, said:

 

Absolutely we would love to hear your recommendations!      I always assume that they are good deals, so help us out, please

 

I'd certainly like to see your recs, Greg.  Good of you to offer


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