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Jockobeans #1 Posted 08 February 2020 - 07:03 AM

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Interesing matching making from a game tonight. Worst I have seen, though my team did okay considering. The Ki and all the Spits were specialized. 

 

 

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'Interesting' is one way to describe the MM.  I will leave off of how I would describe it in self defense.

 

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Yeah, the MM seems to be broken on the most basic levels of balancing anymore.  I've been on both sides of some doozies, though the worst examples are usually at the higher tiers.  This ones pretty bad for mid tier, can't even blame it on population.
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Sometimes I wish MM would get a girlfriend and quit screwing me. . . .
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Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #5 Posted 08 February 2020 - 02:32 PM

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View PostMoonrider, on 08 February 2020 - 09:19 AM, said:

Sometimes I wish MM would get a girlfriend and quit screwing me. . . .
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absolutely kind'a like your new signature

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CorvusCorvax #6 Posted 09 February 2020 - 03:49 PM

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The other weekend while I was running boosters, I got downtiered the entire hour I was running the boosters (flying the I-220).  Right before the boosters, I was top tier, and the battle right after I was top tier.

 

I'm SURE it was random.  Just sure of it.

 

I had a 40% win rate in that hour, 100% outside of that hour.



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 09 February 2020 - 07:49 AM, said:

The other weekend while I was running boosters, I got downtiered the entire hour I was running the boosters (flying the I-220).  Right before the boosters, I was top tier, and the battle right after I was top tier.

 

I'm SURE it was random.  Just sure of it.

 

I had a 40% win rate in that hour, 100% outside of that hour.

 

Hamhock!!!  

 

So that's where you've been hiding.  :P


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CorvusCorvax #8 Posted 10 February 2020 - 12:37 AM

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View PostBB3_Oregon_Steel, on 09 February 2020 - 11:43 PM, said:

 

Hamhock!!!  

 

So that's where you've been hiding.  :P


Seriously.

 

Now, if this had been my first use of boosters, I might not have paid attention.  But it is NOT my first rodeo.  I have noticed at other times when I play the boosters that I seem to have poor match-ups (well, more poor than usual, if you can imagine).

Once, I was trying to maximize crew and free experience, plus some extra silver (because why not?)  So, I teamed up with a clan mate for some specialized premium T8 fun.  To give an example, my clan mate is a bomber pilot with a high win rate, and who is very good with bombers.  I was flying my 2nd-most-flown aircraft (specialized, ultimate equipment in every slot, my training pilot, but still pretty good for this plane.)  We got an all-bot match that was superiority for the red team within 3 minutes of battle start.  He had two bot HFs stick to him like glue, and I had three bot MRFs headhunting me.  I have NEVER been in an all-bot match in which the bots ROTFLstomped my team so badly - even when flying a GAA all by myself.  But the two of us, together?  And that was one battle out of six we had in an hour.  We won two of those.  After the boosters ran out, I was ready to step away, because I thought I was just having a crap night, and that I was letting down my mate.  Next 12 battles, same planes.  Want to guess our win rate?  Just guess.

 

Once is chance.  Twice is coincidence.  This scenario has happened to me five different times.  I am having trouble believing it is just random chance.  I'm willing to own a night where all the decisions I make are the wrong ones - I have done it before.  But only wrong during the time of booster activation, but right the rest of the night?  That would be a pretty weird circumstance.



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I for one can not help but notice how well Gold incendiary ammo works at fire starting for the first battle you use it and then two battles later you cant even set a zero on fire.

 


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View PostBB3_Oregon_Steel, on 09 February 2020 - 06:43 PM, said:

 

Hamhock!!!  

 

So that's where you've been hiding.  :P


:medal:  for the LOL.   But seriously, I have also noticed something of this effect CC is describing.  I suspect it's part and parcel of the old 'where's the mining plants?' when you need them for token missions.


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Interesting ?

Frustrating and demoralizing I would call it. But yeah, pretty standard. All turnfighters in one team and poor multiroles in the other. 


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MM is a joke. 

Jockobeans #13 Posted 14 February 2020 - 01:11 AM

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Thanks for the replies. I wouldn't say that our mix of planes was bad, my La-5 is not a bad plane with the 3 cannons, while the P-40 and the S-199 (actually one of the better Multi's against Spitfires at mid-tier) are wonderful planes when played correctly. 

 

The problem is what can you do against three specialized Spitfires and a Ki with its derp gun, also spec'd by its pilot. Now to their credit, the Spit pilots tried to avoid forming the circle of doom in the central garrison CP, but in a three objective map like Scorching Sands, its almost impossible not to bounce from point to point, you gotta win after all. Little competition when assisted with a good heavy as support. 


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View PostJockobeans, on 13 February 2020 - 08:11 PM, said:

 and the S-199 (actually one of the better Multi's against Spitfires at mid-tier) 

 

no kidding?   I haven't looked at the stats for the s-199, but I didn't know it could turnfight

 

I just assumed it was a copy paste Emil


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View Posttrikke, on 14 February 2020 - 05:19 PM, said:

 

no kidding?   I haven't looked at the stats for the s-199, but I didn't know it could turnfight

 

I just assumed it was a copy paste Emil

 

 

It turnfights like any of the rest of the Bf-109 line - you pick your spots.  SFMy put it like this, and it's about as accurate a description as I can find:  It's a Bf-109E with Bf-109G weapons, living at T6.  I would consider it the best T6 MRF, Especially when you leave the bombs at home.  When you take the bombs with you, it would be a great flight partner for the Me-265, so that you can tag-team any and all cap points.  The S-199 covers the 265 and cleans up any remaining GTs, and the 265 is nimble enough to cover the butt of the S-199 if something red comes along that's more turny than the S-199.  I've turned mine into a British MRF, to help train up pilots.



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 15 February 2020 - 02:43 PM, said:

I've turned mine into a British MRF, to help train up pilots.


 Ty and I will fly my neglected s-199 according


​That reminds me...    we've never made a firm decision if 'european' planes were Axis or Allies, for SNL purposes


Let's make it here now.    Pinky swear that Euro planes are henceforth forever Allied planes, regardless of pilot nationality!

(Unless we decide that they're Axis, since most of them were German for much of the war?)

Nope, they're Allies
 


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Jockobeans #17 Posted 16 February 2020 - 07:59 AM

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View Posttrikke, on 14 February 2020 - 09:19 AM, said:

View PostJockobeans, on 13 February 2020 - 08:11 PM, said:

 and the S-199 (actually one of the better Multi's against Spitfires at mid-tier) 

 

no kidding?   I haven't looked at the stats for the s-199, but I didn't know it could turnfight

 

I just assumed it was a copy paste Emil

 

With its guns at its tier, I cam usually crit a Spit or Zero to a pulp, so they usually burn or just explode in the first pass. If they do survive, just B&Z away. Most of them the time they are to busy trying to dodge and figuring out what just happened, so that gives you plenty of time to fly out of range for another pass. But... it is maneuverable enough to where you need just a little distance before you can turn in and then burn them down, even better when they go after you and get you in a head on, in which they lose almost always. Very similar to the other 109s in that aspect, but I find it slightly more durable and the guns work better.

 

Also, you have the forward firing guns mod, so that gives you an better advantage against other fighters. Your guns simply do more. In a way it reminds me of the Spits for the magic criticals and fires, but take longer to overhear, which is a big bonus to me. 

 

Just pretend your are a vulture or a seagull.

 

 

 

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View Posttrikke, on 14 February 2020 - 05:19 PM, said:

 

no kidding?   I haven't looked at the stats for the s-199, but I didn't know it could turnfight

 

I just assumed it was a copy paste Emil

 

 

It turnfights like any of the rest of the Bf-109 line - you pick your spots.  SFMy put it like this, and it's about as accurate a description as I can find:  It's a Bf-109E with Bf-109G weapons, living at T6.  I would consider it the best T6 MRF, Especially when you leave the bombs at home.  When you take the bombs with you, it would be a great flight partner for the Me-265, so that you can tag-team any and all cap points.  The S-199 covers the 265 and cleans up any remaining GTs, and the 265 is nimble enough to cover the butt of the S-199 if something red comes along that's more turny than the S-199.  I've turned mine into a British MRF, to help train up pilots.

 

Pretty spot on. I do like it for bullying GAAs and heavies that fly too low.


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View Posttrikke, on 15 February 2020 - 11:56 PM, said:

(Unless we decide that they're Axis, since most of them were German for much of the war?)

 

Which is historically more correct. The Germans took all the planes (and engines etc) that they could use after the fall of Europe.

Only a few planes made it over the Channel from the low countries and France.


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