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no_trace_of_sanity #21 Posted 01 February 2020 - 02:53 PM

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Congrats and well done on reaching a personal milestone. I myself don't pay attention to win rate so much as ground damage as GA and now bombers are more my thing....and i've a long way to go before i can join the General jockey-shorts club...:teethhappy:

 



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I have strived to get to the bottom. I can say I'm  number one in defeat. This has taken a lot of hard work and skill. I manage to score near the top or get the golden 1 without ever getting any of those slash marks. How? Wish I knew how I can be so bad while tearing so much stuff up.

 



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 01 February 2020 - 05:53 AM, said:


^^^ this is correct.  Dang it, anyway.

 

But, as milestones go, that's a pretty good one.  The downside is when you start flying planes you don't really enjoy, but fly anyway - for me, bombers and GAA are that way - and you winrate plummets because you are still learning how to best use those aircraft.  I swear I would be above 60% if not for the damn Il-2(t) and the IL-8.  Those two aircraft just KILLED my winrate.

 

Thanks.  I kind of fly everything whether I'm good at it or not so I will not have to worry about my winrate plummeting for that reason.  However I'm sure there's literally Zillions of other reasons out there.  :ohmy:


"Don't mess with me because I can squish you like a bug, that is If I should decide to notice your existence in the first place".  

 

Yes, it's haughty and its arrogant but you're a battleship with 16 inch guns and Britannia Rules the Waves.  Maybe a bit of arrogance in this case is appropriate.  


trikke #24 Posted 02 February 2020 - 08:13 PM

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View Postrooed, on 01 February 2020 - 02:02 PM, said:

 I manage to score near the top or get the golden 1 without ever getting any of those slash marks.
How? Wish I knew how I can be so bad while tearing so much stuff up.


The chevrons are mostly meaningless.      some may even say a 'badge of dishonor'

you get them by killing planes while defending a cap that you own, meaning that you're avoiding going out to capture more

 

defending is only a valid strategy when you have a substantial lead, or own all or the vast majority of the caps


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Captain_Underpants53 #25 Posted 02 February 2020 - 08:22 PM

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View Posttrikke, on 02 February 2020 - 03:13 PM, said:


The chevrons are mostly meaningless.      some may even say a 'badge of dishonor'

you get them by killing planes while defending a cap that you own, meaning that you're avoiding going out to capture more

 

defending is only a valid strategy when you have a substantial lead, or own all or the vast majority of the caps


Not so.  You get the chevrons for doing the job your plane is designed for.


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FLAP_ALOT #26 Posted 02 February 2020 - 11:01 PM

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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 31 January 2020 - 11:00 PM, said:


BB3 is not a sir.  She is a mam (and no, I didn't peek.)

Yes,thx cap for putting me right,yes I am a right plonker!



FLAP_ALOT #27 Posted 02 February 2020 - 11:11 PM

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View PostBB3_Oregon_Steel, on 31 January 2020 - 11:32 PM, said:

 

Hey Flap.  I am actually a Ma'am, but that's ok.  :great:  I promise to be more obvious about that than I was when we were clanmates in Ships.  :honoring:

I do apologise for my fraudulent slip BB,and thankyou for taking it so well.

Once again congratulations ma'am

 



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View PostFLAP_ALOT, on 02 February 2020 - 06:11 PM, said:

I do apologise for my fraudulent slip BB,and thankyou for taking it so well.

Once again congratulations ma'am

 

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Congratulations!  Doesn't it seem like the personal goals are the hardest to reach?

Well done.

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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 02 February 2020 - 08:22 PM, said:


Not so.  You get the chevrons for doing the job your plane is designed for.

No Fun!....Thats' it though.... I finally figured it out. I just like blowing up stuff and not following the rules. My bomber hasn't been above 4k unless it spawns there, I chase everything in my GA's, and fly under the bridges...:) 

Turn fighters?...I spent months avoiding the white guys because I'm a botist' and was just hunting humans until I figured out there were only a few humans. Totally ignored skill points and acquired planes like a hoarder and raced up the ladders that were kind to my laggy connection and today sit about a year later near the bottom of the win rate. That measure of success is great fun and even though I pitch in on the white guys now, that first red dot is getting it.

 

 

 

 

 

 



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View Posttrikke, on 02 February 2020 - 10:13 AM, said:

 

 

defending is only a valid strategy when you have a substantial lead, or own all or the vast majority of the caps

 

Defending the Mining Plant is my favorite strategy


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Jenko1957 #32 Posted 03 February 2020 - 11:05 AM

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Congrats BB.

 

I do the rotation thing as well, flying everything in my hangar, good, bad or indifferent. Although when it comes time to make room in the hangar for that next aircraft I'll drop the one that sucks the most. End result is my hangar is mostly stocked with LFs and MRs with the odd HF, BB and GAA for variety.



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View PostFLAP_ALOT, on 02 February 2020 - 03:11 PM, said:

I do apologise for my fraudulent slip BB,and thankyou for taking it so well.

Once again congratulations ma'am

 

 

Thanks Flap.  These games are so testosterone loaded that I assume everyone is a guy unless they tell me otherwise or their handle has obvious female connotations.   BB3_Oregon_Steel doesn't exactly scream that I'm a girl after all.  :)

 

I actually thought about going with Steel Maiden or Lady Steel originally but sort of settled on my current name because I have, on occasion, had negative less that delightful experiences being a girl on a site super dominated by guys before and to give honor to BB3 - USS Oregon, the third battleship build for the United States navy and one of the heroes of the Spanish American War.   Figured it was a decent compromise. 


"Don't mess with me because I can squish you like a bug, that is If I should decide to notice your existence in the first place".  

 

Yes, it's haughty and its arrogant but you're a battleship with 16 inch guns and Britannia Rules the Waves.  Maybe a bit of arrogance in this case is appropriate.  


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View PostJenko1957, on 03 February 2020 - 03:05 AM, said:

Congrats BB.

 

I do the rotation thing as well, flying everything in my hangar, good, bad or indifferent. Although when it comes time to make room in the hangar for that next aircraft I'll drop the one that sucks the most. End result is my hangar is mostly stocked with LFs and MRs with the odd HF, BB and GAA for variety.

 

It keeps it fun and interesting for me.  I do not, however, drop planes I hate.  I just keep flying them in the hope that I will eventually figure out how to make them work properly.  That is either crazy stubborn or just stupid on my part.  Opinions vary. 


"Don't mess with me because I can squish you like a bug, that is If I should decide to notice your existence in the first place".  

 

Yes, it's haughty and its arrogant but you're a battleship with 16 inch guns and Britannia Rules the Waves.  Maybe a bit of arrogance in this case is appropriate.  


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View PostBB3_Oregon_Steel, on 03 February 2020 - 02:46 PM, said:

 

It keeps it fun and interesting for me.  I do not, however, drop planes I hate.  I just keep flying them in the hope that I will eventually figure out how to make them work properly.  That is either crazy stubborn or just stupid on my part.  Opinions vary. 

 

NEVER get rid of a plane. Ones that are dogs to you now become gems later. Experience/pilot maturity/stuffs kind of thing.


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View PostBB3_Oregon_Steel, on 03 February 2020 - 08:44 PM, said:

 

Thanks Flap.  These games are so testosterone loaded that I assume everyone is a guy unless they tell me otherwise or their handle has obvious female connotations.   BB3_Oregon_Steel doesn't exactly scream that I'm a girl after all.  :)

 

I actually thought about going with Steel Maiden or Lady Steel originally but sort of settled on my current name because I have, on occasion, had negative less that delightful experiences being a girl on a site super dominated by guys before and to give honor to BB3 - USS Oregon, the third battleship build for the United States navy and one of the heroes of the Spanish American War.   Figured it was a decent compromise. 

View PostBB3_Oregon_Steel, on 03 February 2020 - 08:44 PM, said:

 

Thanks Flap.  These games are so testosterone loaded that I assume everyone is a guy unless they tell me otherwise or their handle has obvious female connotations.   BB3_Oregon_Steel doesn't exactly scream that I'm a girl after all.  :)

 

I actually thought about going with Steel Maiden or Lady Steel originally but sort of settled on my current name because I have, on occasion, had negative less that delightful experiences being a girl on a site super dominated by guys before and to give honor to BB3 - USS Oregon, the third battleship build for the United States navy and one of the heroes of the Spanish American War.   Figured it was a decent compromise. 

BB don't change a thing!

You've obviously put alot thought into your name.

It's people like me( male chovonist pigs) who have the problem,not you.

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View Posttrikke, on 02 February 2020 - 03:13 PM, said:


The chevrons are mostly meaningless.      some may even say a 'badge of dishonor'

you get them by killing planes while defending a cap that you own, meaning that you're avoiding going out to capture more

 

defending is only a valid strategy when you have a substantial lead, or own all or the vast majority of the caps



This is usually the case but it does not have to be. That sort of light fighter/multirole problem is usually due to human error.
Taking a stand at one particularly important zone and holding it agaisnt all enemy for as long as you can is  ... important.
But you REALLY need to know which zone is the important one. And understand that the "important" zone usually will change as the battle progresses.
For the most part your average 45% winrate spitfire pilot that averages 10K+ personal points per game picks the center airfield and becomes an ADA that doesnt explode if the cap changes. 
And as long as enemy bots keep coming in one or two or even three at a time ... its fine.

But sometimes ... the enemy captures an airfield on the flank that is now closer to a lot of other cap zones. 
Guess where everyone is going to spawn now.
Maybe at first you want to park your Spitfire over a military base so it stays in your control while it uses rockets to cap every zone around it.
At which time the enemy will be going to other zones and you're a useless spitfire again. Time to go to another zone perhaps that one close to the enemy spawn zone?  Surely all the red planes that you could want to shoot at will make their way to your zone.

Of course you can do what you want. Like defending that one airfield in the corner that is a short flight from your spawn.
while the red team caps everything else on the map.
You do you


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Attack Aircraft: BSh-2, Hs 123/129 A, Ha 137, Fw 189 C, Ju 87 G, Me 265, Me 1099 B-2
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^^this is such an important point^^    ty, WEC


The battle is won by the team that knows when to hold 'em, and when they need to go grab another cap


I'm often sent by SFMY to protect an important cap, because of his amazing ability to quickly capture a stubborn target

 

he clocks every human, decides their intentions and makes decisions for both of us.    I'm always amazed


could some of the superpilots share with us if there are any 'rules' for say, a three-caps-in-a-line maps?

new pilots face those maps all day long...   

let's see if we can get the new folks (that read the forum) over 50% more quickly?


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I  care little for those shoe box maps. Especially seeing them in tier 5.

But they are useful for show casing what each different zone is like. And what they have to offer. 

Additionally their relative small size (in one demension) means that the slow cruise speed of yaks, zeros and bristol/spit doesnt handi-cap them too hard. 

Higher speed aircraft will quickly finding themselves all over each other in a very short period of time.
But at the same time they can use their speed to react to situations
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in an adjacent zone. Or for that matter the zone on the "far" side of the map.

It does not leave much room for PvE planes like Bombers to go hide unless they can climb high enough to be safe but also at the same time high enough to make any aimed bomb run a random success/fail result. 
Attackers have it worse somehow.
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IF they are lucky they can stick with the bot blob and hope the other team mates can distract the red team from focusing them down while they blow up the only thing they cant miss: stationary ground targets. (imagine how mad you would be if the boats on the marine maps actually moved at flank speed) 

But enough bad news lets talk about the good news.
And the joy of a 3 cap map keeps it really simple. To win the Battle, control more caps than the red team.
It sort of dissolves into a weird sort of race that attempts to see who can cap more zones in the least time. The blue team or the red team.  

When in doubt it wont hurt to cap the center zone. Whatever it may be. MOSTLY because its a short hop from there to whatever other zone would be easiest to cap/defend as needed.
  A thing many dumb fighter jocks forget in the larger 4/5 cap maps when the rush center.  Because they are too focused on local defense to even look at the main map let alone the mini map. they wind up staying there no matter what happens around them. Forgetting that capping that particular zone was just supposed to be a means to an end.

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is on par with my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
 I start on the right track and then sometimes make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 

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Attack Aircraft: BSh-2, Hs 123/129 A, Ha 137, Fw 189 C, Ju 87 G, Me 265, Me 1099 B-2
Bombers: Do 17 Z, He 111 H2, Pe-2, Do 217 M
 


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View PostBB3_Oregon_Steel, on 03 February 2020 - 09:46 PM, said:

I do not, however, drop planes I hate.  I just keep flying them in the hope that I will eventually figure out how to make them work properly.  

 

Same here ; so now I have 191 planes on my EU account. And I try to fly most of 'm ...

But I finally got 1 I'm about to give up on ; the P.1056 (UK heavy). I already didn't like the Mosquito and Hornet, but this is the pits.


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