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Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #21 Posted 30 January 2020 - 04:07 AM

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 29 January 2020 - 10:51 PM, said:

Any time someone new comes in, the first thing they are faced with isn't bugs, it's a constant stream of negging on this game by people who.. as far as I am concerned.. behave very much like a person who was rejected by a girl and she's moved on, but they haven't. 

1.xx, in its entirety, was far more buggy than 2.xx is. I appreciate the rose-colored glasses view of the old game.. really I do, but that doesn't mean misty water colored memories are based in reality. I also understand that I see more people in the air every day than I see.. well.. any of you.. ever. I play 30+ games per day on average, being disabled I've rather a lot of time on my hands, meaning I see a lot of folks. I have more people online on average on my friend list than visit this forum during the course of an entire week. The constant chicken little/sky is falling mentality is fascinating, but in my opinion the "bad reputation" of this game is mostly put forth by a bunch of non-players and their cohorts (mugging for social standing) who are upset because the game didn't get developed the way their micro-community (in the scheme of the game) would have done it. American players are an entitled bunch, most of us think that a game should be developed on our vision/beliefs of what is "right" or "wrong" regarding a game, but that's a -very- narrow view informed by the cultural norms/values/mores of the Western World. We are, ultimately, guests on/in a game developed -not- by us. You don't like it? Don't play it. You want to see actual improvements in line with the actual trajectory of the game? Make fully fleshed out and reasonable suggestions and requests. WG/Persha -are- surprisingly responsive when those things are done. Understand there is a language and cultural barrier and try to meet that in the middle instead of -demanding- your way. You'll find you will catch far more flies with honey than the salt and vinegar that, far too often, gets poured out.

 

YMMV, but I'll keep playing til they turn the lights out, which doesn't seem to be likely to happen any time soon. Especially given the work on a battle pass system among other things.. all of which would indicate to most folks that the development/developer input into the game behind the scenes is larger than the utterly ignorant NA playerbase  knows about. No insult in that, ignorance is just a lack of knowledge. So.. carry on with the salt and vinegar, maybe I should make up a batch of potato chips... ya'all would make -great- flavor for a bag.

I'd like to add also, that I have immense respect for the people who run this game and put up with the constant barrage of negging... Blindfold perhaps first and foremost because she's the one that most deals with the NA community and honestly... they don't pay her enough. Whatever it is, it should be way higher. She works her tail off and puts up with a lot of guff from a lot of people and also has to constantly put forth the resources WG has put at her disposal to deal with what amount to non-players.

Again, Your Mileage and Your Opinion may vary.. this is just my view. Take it or leave it.

 

See you in the air.

first... nobody reads these forums

second, you know less than nothing about the game prior to October 7th 2018

third your opinion on this subject is and has always been clear...

that is, see number two... you know less than nothing about the game prior to October 7th 2018

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 29 January 2020 - 10:51 PM, said:

Again, Your Mileage and Your Opinion may vary.. this is just my view. Take it or leave it.

 

See you in the air.

 

Good for you being their cheerleader!  Go Persha!  Go Persha!  Go Persha!

 

 

 

 

Hey...anyone heard how the black cat is doing?  Or the squirrels?  Been so long since a dev diary...

 

 


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White_Widow18 #23 Posted 30 January 2020 - 04:20 AM

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Ah, yes.. and there's the attempt to invalidate anyone who enjoys the game. Good Show, Zaney. 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Bubba_Zanetti #24 Posted 30 January 2020 - 04:32 AM

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You have contempt for the developers/WG mixed with fellow players.

 

You love the game, by all means keep playing the game.  See a post you don't like?  Make a comment, troll, give an opinion.  ALL here on these forums are free to give their opinions.  As well as move on to another post...like a recruitment post..for the great patriotic "Participation Standing Game"  Which honestly is the only clan competition that has momentum in the past two years...(WoWPFE 2PAN aside) Great news!

 


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View PostBubba_Zanetti, on 29 January 2020 - 10:32 PM, said:

You have contempt for the developers/WG mixed with fellow players.

 

You love the game, by all means keep playing the game.  See a post you don't like?  Make a comment, troll, give an opinion.  ALL here on these forums are free to give their opinions.  As well as move on to another post...like a recruitment post..for the great patriotic "Participation Standing Game"  Which honestly is the only clan competition that has momentum in the past two years...(WoWPFE 2PAN aside) Great news!

 

You, really, do not get it. That's fine. Good luck with that.



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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 29 January 2020 - 11:49 PM, said:

You, really, do not get it. That's fine. Good luck with that.

 

No Widow, I do get it...it's you whom is completely clueless here.


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View PostBubba_Zanetti, on 29 January 2020 - 10:52 PM, said:

 

No Widow, I do get it...it's you whom is completely clueless here.

Sure Mr. Spaghetti, sure. :) You keep up with your false self-assuredness.. I'll keep doing what I do. I collect information on the game, people, the community as a whole.. that's what I do. Screenshots of people's in-game screeds are a favorite.

I'd like to add.. I do appreciate your position. You feel, based on your behavior, as if your importance and other things were taken away and you've been resoundingly rejected in your opinions by the people who run this game. Sometimes that sucks, it really sucks, but you know what happens with rejection for most people? They get over it. They move on dear, or they come to terms with the new situation and find enjoyment in it and try to make it a better situation down a new path... My position is that a micro-minority of players have spent the last 2 years or so.. instead of doing that.. just trying to make everyone else as miserable as them. I don't find that something that anyone should be forced to deal with... but the people who play this game have. To the point that a very miniscule number of people partake of the forums or the official discord. If I had -one- criticism of WG beyond the usual -normal- player grumbling about any game? It would be that they've been too patient and allowed community to be ruined by a small group of players and their dissatisfaction with the "state of the game". That's a cultural difference right there. That sort of continuous behavior would have gotten much more moderation from the devs/support staff on other games I've played... Blindfold and the rest of WG's staff has.. significantly more patience than I do. They get paid to be so though.


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View PostAce_BOTlistic_Cosmo, on 29 January 2020 - 10:07 PM, said:

first... nobody reads these forums

second, you know less than nothing about the game prior to October 7th 2018

third your opinion on this subject is and has always been clear...

that is, see number two... you know less than nothing about the game prior to October 7th 2018

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1st - Not my first account.
2nd - None of you have seemed to manage to actually figure that out XD
3rd - Refer to #1.



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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 30 January 2020 - 09:51 AM, said:

1st - Not my first account.
2nd - None of you have seemed to manage to actually figure that out XD
3rd - Refer to #1.

What was your first account then?
Never understood why people would create a new account and give up all the tech tree advance, acquired planes, trained pilots, gold, silver, free xp and premiums associated with that account, just to start a new account?
Do not take this personal, this is not an insult, i just don't get it.
Again, don't take it personal, but i wrote that version experience in good conscience, if you don't agree, please state which facts i made up.


 


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View Postjack_wdw, on 30 January 2020 - 06:34 AM, said:

What was your first account then?
Never understood why people would create a new account and give up all the tech tree advance, acquired planes, trained pilots, gold, silver, free xp and premiums associated with that account, just to start a new account?
Do not take this personal, this is not an insult, i just don't get it.
Again, don't take it personal, but i wrote that version experience in good conscience, if you don't agree, please state which facts i made up.

maybe the alt creation dates after 10/18:unsure:

or maybe it was in an anger fueled dream:ohmy:

either way it just doesn't matter...

it just doesn't matter

without all the facts it's impossible to tell

exactly who is this...

"micro-minority of players" they speak of

us or them?

:sceptic:


if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


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View Postjack_wdw, on 30 January 2020 - 05:34 AM, said:

What was your first account then?
Never understood why people would create a new account and give up all the tech tree advance, acquired planes, trained pilots, gold, silver, free xp and premiums associated with that account, just to start a new account?
Do not take this personal, this is not an insult, i just don't get it.
Again, don't take it personal, but i wrote that version experience in good conscience, if you don't agree, please state which facts i made up.


 

:) Now why, exactly, would I tell anyone who I used to be (Especially when it's not what one would call.. relevant to the current game or social strata)? It's been far more fun, and will continue to be, just watching everyone make assumptions about me (with subtle nudges toward ruling out that I'd played before. Given that I do consider 2.xx to be an entirely different game and insofar as 2.xx I am technically newer than many XD). The fact is that I'm not remotely the only oldster flying under new colors.. or even the only one not advertising it as a general rule. Others have figured it out, maybe ask around? Though.. the ones who've figured it out are also oldsters flying under new colors... so they may not be the most likely to share that information.. and you'd have to know who they are... Either way :hiding:

Oh.. and why switch accounts? That's a simple answer and one I -am- quite content to give. Used to run my own e-mail server with my own domain. I no longer own the server or the domain, ergo the account is inaccessible unless I re-purchase the domain and set another e-mail server up (I can't remember the password I apparently used back then, I've mentioned before head injuries on the server that wiped out sections of memory :(). Unfortunate really, several things I'd love to have back on that account. Did get one of those back in X-mas crates this year though.. I missed that particular old friend of a plane (XP-77).

Probably the biggest reason people will run an alt btw? Give themselves room to experiment with things without affecting account stats negatively.  When I came back/noticed this game was still alive I saw the deals on Steam and the free boosts/etc. and knew you had to register via steam to access those so voila! Used this account since it was attached to Steam and had never been on WoWP.

I was rather curious none of you ever asked how I knew who Gouldy was though. *shrug*


Edited by White_Widow18, 30 January 2020 - 12:51 PM.


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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 30 January 2020 - 08:21 AM, said:

I'd say see you in the air Bubba.. but do you fly anymore?

 

What's the point?  Have most every line/plane (could finish the russian bomber line, but...why?)  Styats?  Make friends with bots?  Certainly not clan wars or other competitive type event. Zero incentive which is why I want anniversaries returned (which never should have been removed.  If it needed to be reworked, then rework it while it's still available).

 

No, for now I received a 30-day WOWS premium time around the holidays that keeps getting the odd 24-hour premium time extension...too bad it's not universal like it used to be.  So I'll grind there when I get a chance.  Afterwards?  Maybe back to tonks, maybe stay in ships, maybe planes so I can get tokens and get crates hoping for gold I can use in tonks...or maybe just play the WOWPFE 2pan game...so many options.

 

 


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View Postjack_wdw, on 30 January 2020 - 03:34 AM, said:

What was your first account then?
Never understood why people would create a new account and give up all the tech tree advance, acquired planes, trained pilots, gold, silver, free xp and premiums associated with that account, just to start a new account?
Do not take this personal, this is not an insult, i just don't get it.
Again, don't take it personal, but i wrote that version experience in good conscience, if you don't agree, please state which facts i made up.


 

 

I know a number of players who have sort of done everything, maxed out their planes and lines and just want to start over with biplanes (YAY Biplanes!!!) and grind it all over again.  Ships has kind of formalized this regrinding process using the same account but in planes, the only option to do this is start another account and go at it again. 


"Don't mess with me because I can squish you like a bug, that is If I should decide to notice your existence in the first place".  

 

Yes, it's haughty and its arrogant but you're a battleship with 16 inch guns and Britannia Rules the Waves.  Maybe a bit of arrogance in this case is appropriate.  


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Wow this has turned into a fascinating "bash the Widow" thread.  I am pretty sure, however, that Widow is the baddest spider in the game and can take care or herself.  

 

Soooo ... I've been around since late 2015 so I kind of have an idea what the 1.9 days were like, which is why I left to invest my time in a game that had a future, in this case WOWS (tanks irritated me because of the interminable load in times for low tier tanks which drove me towards ships).  

 

Despite rumors to the contrary, I see more new human players than I have in the past.  The game is better structured since it's not just flying around and dogfighting all the time, it requires a bit of strategy to win which is also something I like.  It's just a better game with ver 2.0 so I've come back and I've pretty much stayed back.  

 

Yes it would be great if we had a couple million people playing the game as with WG's other titles, but past mistakes which alienated it's player base has sort of taken that away, but I think the solution WG has come up with is inventive and fun.  I also tend to think that this format even more intensely focuses the outcome of each game on the individual players who are flying in that particular battle which makes the decisions you, the player makes, and the way you fly your plane even more important in determining actual victory or defeat.  

 

I think the game could have been more than it currently is but what we do have is a pretty amazing game anyway. 

 

I also, to be honest, like certain things about the low population in the game.  In Ships, there are over a million players and the chances of me running into someone I actually recognize or know is miniscule.  I can probably count the times that has happened over the last 4+ years on the fingers of one, maybe two hands.  

 

Here I run into people I know or recognize on a fairly regular basis which is ultra neat and creates a feeling of community which is lacking in WG's other titles simply because of the huge player base in those games.  I kind of like that so it's one of the things which keeps me coming back. 

 

I worry about the future of the game, and because of that, I look for signs of progress and commitment and am happy when I see them and sad when I see the opposite.  I do want this game to succeed but I also understand there are challenges that need to be overcome and addressed for that to happen.  I'd like to be part of the solution as I can be because as crazy as it might seem to more rational sane beings, this game and the people in it have come to matter to me and that's kind of neat.  

 

Now if only people would fly more biplanes!!!  YAY BIPLANES!!! :kamikaze: 


"Don't mess with me because I can squish you like a bug, that is If I should decide to notice your existence in the first place".  

 

Yes, it's haughty and its arrogant but you're a battleship with 16 inch guns and Britannia Rules the Waves.  Maybe a bit of arrogance in this case is appropriate.  


White_Widow18 #35 Posted 30 January 2020 - 07:30 PM

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