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J311yfish #1 Posted 19 January 2020 - 08:09 PM

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II

PZL P.11

D.500/D.501

CR.32

Ro.37 Lince

 

III

CR.42 Falco

Gladiator

PZL P.24

D.510

Ki-12

Ki-28 "Bob"

Ca.310 Libeccio

G.1

 

IV

MS.406/410

F.K.58

PZL P.50 Jastrzab

G.50

Ca.314C

MAVAG Heja I/II

AS.31

F.5/34

D.XXI

R.36

R.37

 

V

D.520

VG-33

C.A.O.200

Roussel 30

Potez 230

MB.152

MB.700

C.200 Saetta

FFVS J 22

Morko-Moraani

SS.4

VL Myrsky

IAR 80/81

Re.2000 Falco I

Breguet 693 AB2

Potez 670/671

Ca.331 Raffica

Ki-44 Shoki "Tojo"

J2M Raiden "Jack"

Ki-60

J1N1 Gekko

Whirlwind

D.XXIII

R.38

 

VI

D.551

VG-39bis

C.760/770/780

SAI.207/403

C.202 Folgore

VL Pyorremyrsky

Re.2001 Falco II

SM.91/92

Saab B 18B / T18 B

J3K/J6K Jinpu

N1K1-J Shiden "George"

Ki-64 "Rob"

XF5F Skyrocket

F6F Hellcat

XP-49

XP-52

XP-53

XP-54 Swoose Goose

XP-56 Black Bullet

XP-57

P-60

P-61

MB.3

R.40

 

VII

D.520Z/SE.520Z/M.520

D.600

Bugatti 110P

MB.157

G.55

Re.2005

J 21A

Piaggio P.119

Ca.380 Corsaro

RMI-8

MB.902

Katsuodori

Ki-100

J5N1 Tenrai

N1K2-J Shiden Kai "George"

Ki-83

S1A Denko

Ki-108

Welkin

P.59

P.63

XP-67 "The Bat"

XP-68 Tornado

XF14C

L-133

Firebrand

 

VIII

SO.8000 Narval

SE.580/582

Ki-87

Kikka

N1K5-J

Sea Fury

Meteor F.4

MB.5

XP-69

XP-83

F8F Bearcat

XF8B-1

FR Fireball

Firecrest

Re.2005 R/SF

 

IX

Saab 29

SE.530/532/535 Mistral

SE.201 Aquilon

Leduc ramjet

Ki-201

Ki-202

XF2R Dark Shark

Venom

Meteor F.8

MB.6

MG.450 Ouragan

SO.6020 Espadon

VG-90

NC.1080

Nord 2200

Sagittario II

 

X

Saab 32

Leduc ramjet

F9F Panther

F9F-6 Cougar

F3D Skynight

XF-87 Blackhawk

F-89 Scorpion

XF-92

Sea Vixen

MD.454 Mystere IVA

SO.6025 Espadon

Ariete

 

 

Of course there are more -- this is just a place to start.

 


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jack_wdw #2 Posted 19 January 2020 - 10:03 PM

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some more:
Arsenal VG.33(V), Dassault Ouragan (IX), Dassault Mystere(X)
Koolhoven FK.58 (IV), Fokker D.XXI(IV), Fokker G.1(III or IV), Fokker D.XXIII (V)
Renard R.36(IV), R.37(IV or V), R.38(V), R.40(VI) raw estimate of tiers though
Bell P-63(VII), Bell P-59(VII), Grumman XF6F (VI)
Grumman F6F (VII), Grumman F8F(VIII), Gumman F9F Panther (IX), Grumman F9F Cougar (X), Northrop F-89 Scorpion (X)
Gloster Meteor F.4 (VIII), Gloster Meteor F.8 (IX)
 

BB3_Oregon_Steel #3 Posted 19 January 2020 - 10:09 PM

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Well I think the first logical steps here are to introduce the French and Italian lines of aircraft.  There is plenty there to work with if someone wanted to get it done.  That would clear up a lot of the aircraft you have listed here.  

 

In the existing lines, it's really odd that the F6F Hellcat isn't in the mix, I'm also thinking American Medium Bombers like the B-25 deserve a spot in the game as well as the mainstay of the US Bomber fleet in Europe throughout WWII, the B-24 Liberator.  Let's also not forget the SBD Dauntless or the SBC-2 Helldiver, even some earlier bombers like the B-18 or B-10.   England could also use a bomber line of it's own as could the Japanese.  

 

Anyway I know that's not all fighters, but I think those are still important aircraft that should be added to the game. 


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kidx86 #4 Posted 20 January 2020 - 08:16 AM

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View PostBB3_Oregon_Steel, on 19 January 2020 - 10:09 PM, said:

Well I think the first logical steps here are to introduce the French and Italian lines of aircraft.  There is plenty there to work with if someone wanted to get it done.  That would clear up a lot of the aircraft you have listed here.  

 

In the existing lines, it's really odd that the F6F Hellcat isn't in the mix, I'm also thinking American Medium Bombers like the B-25 deserve a spot in the game as well as the mainstay of the US Bomber fleet in Europe throughout WWII, the B-24 Liberator.  Let's also not forget the SBD Dauntless or the SBC-2 Helldiver, even some earlier bombers like the B-18 or B-10.   England could also use a bomber line of it's own as could the Japanese.  

 

Anyway I know that's not all fighters, but I think those are still important aircraft that should be added to the game. 

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View Postjack_wdw, on 19 January 2020 - 05:03 PM, said:

some more:
Arsenal VG.33(V), Dassault Ouragan (IX), Dassault Mystere(X)
Koolhoven FK.58 (IV), Fokker D.XXI(IV), Fokker G.1(III or IV), Fokker D.XXIII (V)
Renard R.36(IV), R.37(IV or V), R.38(V), R.40(VI) raw estimate of tiers though
Bell P-63(VII), Bell P-59(VII), Grumman XF6F (VI)
Grumman F6F (VII), Grumman F8F(VIII), Gumman F9F Panther (IX), Grumman F9F Cougar (X), Northrop F-89 Scorpion (X)
Gloster Meteor F.4 (VIII), Gloster Meteor F.8 (IX)
 

 

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View Postjack_wdw, on 19 January 2020 - 11:03 PM, said:

Koolhoven FK.58 (IV), Fokker D.XXI(IV), Fokker G.1(III or IV), Fokker D.XXIII (V)

 

Fokker T.V ...


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jack_wdw #7 Posted 21 January 2020 - 11:46 AM

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View PostGonerNL, on 20 January 2020 - 09:46 AM, said:

 

Fokker T.V ...


As a HF or as a Bomber?
I think only two T.V's were outfitted as a bomber

Anyway some more forgotten fighters:


Fairey Fox (II or III)
Loire 46 (III)
Dewoitine D.372 (III)
Ikarus IK-2 (IV more or less the same specs as fantome)
Rogozarski IK-3 (V)
Ikarus S-49C (VI)
Ikarus IK-5 Heavy Fighter (VI)
Rogožarski R-313 Heavy Fighter (II or III)
Mannfred-Weis WM-23 (V)
Avia B-35 (IV)
Avia B-135(V)

Potez.670 Heavy Fighter (IV)


 


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View Postjack_wdw, on 21 January 2020 - 12:46 PM, said:

As a HF or as a Bomber?

 

Yeah well, they were mainly used as heavy fighter (jachtkruiser) or ground attacker because most were not outfitted with bomb racks by May 1940. But they were supposed to be bombers ...

 

Fairey Fulmar ...

 


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jack_wdw #9 Posted 21 January 2020 - 03:10 PM

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View PostGonerNL, on 21 January 2020 - 12:23 PM, said:

 

Yeah well, they were mainly used as heavy fighter (jachtkruiser) or ground attacker because most were not outfitted with bomb racks by May 1940. But they were supposed to be bombers ...

 

Fairey Fulmar ...

 


Could probably fit in as TierIV bomber.

Some more forgotten birds:
Vultee P-66 (V)
Curtiss CW-21 (IV)
Fiat G.59 (VII)
Casa HA-1112 Buchon (VI multirole?)
CAC CA-15 (VIII)
Curtiss XP-62 (VII)
Aviotehas PN-3 (III)
North American P-64 (IV)
Curtiss P-37 (IV)
Curtiss XP-42 (IV)
Curtiss XP-46 (VI)
SNCASE Mistral (IX) Vampire with nene engine

AFAMF Chu X-PO (V)
Bisnovat SK2 (V or VI)
Boeing Model 376 (VII or VIII)
Boeing Model 394 (VI)
Curtiss XF-14c (VI)
DoFlug D3801 (V)
DoFlug D3802 (VI)
Focke Wulf FW187 (V)
Heinkel He.162 (IX)
Nakajima J9Y Kikka (VIII)
 



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View Postjack_wdw, on 21 January 2020 - 04:10 PM, said:

Curtiss CW-21 (IV)

 

Yes, please.

In the colors of the Dutch East Indies air force (NEIAF) ; we have no aircraft at all in Dutch colors (well, one, but that's not historically correct and even offensive).

And the Glenn Martin model 139/166 (export version of B.10).

 

 


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