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S_L_A_Y #1 Posted 08 December 2019 - 06:55 AM

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Let's all face the music.. this game is not far away from dying with the abysmal attention it gets from wg... meanwhile people have played for years in this game.. earned a ton of airplanes..and it is not currently looking good for your investment.

 

If I was the head of wg for a day..I would create an all bot pve mode in the game that had the same economical rewards we currently have but not alter your stats in any way so you couldn't pad an insane win percentage by playing it...

 

What is wargaming losing by giving people something to do.. sometimes people just want to fire this game up.. and relax. 

 

Am I speaking crazy here let me know if I am lol.



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You mean so that there could be an independant offline mode when they turn the servers off?
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legoboy0401 #3 Posted 08 December 2019 - 07:43 AM

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View Posthoom, on 07 December 2019 - 11:38 PM, said:

You mean so that there could be an independant offline mode when they turn the servers off?


That seems to be the idea.


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White_Widow18 #4 Posted 08 December 2019 - 08:26 AM

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I wouldn't mind a PvE mode... but I'll let the below image speak for what I consider the rest of it to be:


But thanks for more false dramatics?
 

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Captain_Underpants53 #5 Posted 08 December 2019 - 10:24 AM

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View PostStygian_Alchemist, on 08 December 2019 - 03:26 AM, said:

I wouldn't mind a PvE mode... but I'll let the below image speak for what I consider the rest of it to be:


But thanks for more false dramatics?
 


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Jenko1957 #6 Posted 08 December 2019 - 10:59 AM

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Starting up a new server in Asia doesn't sound like the death throws of a doomed game to me.

S_L_A_Y #7 Posted 08 December 2019 - 01:49 PM

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When I say the game is dying I'm not talking lights out on the servers I'm talking the general playerbase is disappearing.

 

Even if they threw a mode that was the game we have now just guaranteed only bots (which happens already a ton) that seems like it would at least give people something to do. 

 

My premium ends in 2023, if there Is anyone who wants this game to succeed it is me.. 

 

Also they should throw in game modes of old back in.. here's looking at you attrition :)



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View PostS_L_A_Y, on 08 December 2019 - 01:55 AM, said:

Let's all face the music.. this game is not far away from dying with the abysmal attention it gets from wg... meanwhile people have played for years in this game.. earned a ton of airplanes..and it is not currently looking good for your investment.

 

If I was the head of wg for a day..I would create an all bot pve mode in the game that had the same economical rewards we currently have but not alter your stats in any way so you couldn't pad an insane win percentage by playing it...

 

What is wargaming losing by giving people something to do.. sometimes people just want to fire this game up.. and relax. 

 

Am I speaking crazy here let me know if I am lol.

 

I think that ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz......snx.  :sceptic:


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jack_wdw #9 Posted 08 December 2019 - 04:08 PM

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Please fix the bugs and lag before making any other changes or introducing new content.
If anything is chasing me away, its definitely bugs and lag.
Two point zero has been one large pile of bug**** since day one.
Trying to fix some of these bugs, lead to creating new bugs.
Instead of getting these fixed, they've created and introduced even more new content and game modes (attrition, invasion, bomber escort, specialization...), and these brought us the joy of even more bugs.
 

S_L_A_Y #10 Posted 08 December 2019 - 04:34 PM

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View Postjack_wdw, on 08 December 2019 - 04:08 PM, said:

Please fix the bugs and lag before making any other changes or introducing new content.
If anything is chasing me away, its definitely bugs and lag.
Two point zero has been one large pile of bug**** since day one.
Trying to fix some of these bugs, lead to creating new bugs.
Instead of getting these fixed, they've created and introduced even more new content and game modes (attrition, invasion, bomber escort, specialization...), and these brought us the joy of even more bugs.
 

I for one 1000% agree with the fixing of bugs and lag, in a normal world this would be assumed that that was going to happen even if the company releases now content.. however this is not the case I suppose. 

 

All i'm saying is bots are already in the game, the economy of silver/xp is already in the game, im not a game developer but i cannot imagine it would be terribly hard for them to put all players on one side vs bots in a battle mode like attrition, all things that are already in the game files and already happen in the past when not enough people que. 

 

but again, i know there is greater demons that need exorcised before this can be accomplished, one pilot can dream is all lol. It is the very things that you we them to fix is the reasoning of why i want this mode.. I am 100% going to be less aggro'd when i am bugging out or lagging out if i am facing bots than if i am trying to face players. 

 

Some of the "bugs" are pretty comical though, especially the ones when you lose your targeting UI and you have to use the shwartz and actually aim your shots. When you get kills while having that bug, it actually feels good.



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View PostJenko1957, on 08 December 2019 - 05:59 PM, said:

Starting up a new server in Asia doesn't sound like the death throws of a doomed game to me.

 

...or in another view, one final gambit...



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White_Widow18 #12 Posted 08 December 2019 - 05:55 PM

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How I envision the people who try to claim the game is going somewhere, especially those who attempt to "prove" it.



And I'm just... not flexible enough to get that point of view :P

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View PostS_L_A_Y, on 08 December 2019 - 07:49 AM, said:

When I say the game is dying I'm not talking lights out on the servers I'm talking the general playerbase is disappearing.

 

Even if they threw a mode that was the game we have now just guaranteed only bots (which happens already a ton) that seems like it would at least give people something to do. 

 

My premium ends in 2023, if there Is anyone who wants this game to succeed it is me.. 

 

Also they should throw in game modes of old back in.. here's looking at you attrition :)

Now see, I'd murder for attrition mode. I don't care about a purist PvP mode.. but Attrition is the bees knees.



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View PostStygian_Alchemist, on 08 December 2019 - 12:56 PM, said:

Now see, I'd murder for attrition mode. I don't care about a purist PvP mode.. but Attrition is the bees knees.


Nope.  It's the cat's pajamas.


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Booze_Morgan #15 Posted 08 December 2019 - 06:15 PM

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Attrition .... That's kinda like the old way, right?
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View PostS_L_A_Y, on 08 December 2019 - 05:49 AM, said:

When I say the game is dying I'm not talking lights out on the servers I'm talking the general playerbase is disappearing.

 

Even if they threw a mode that was the game we have now just guaranteed only bots (which happens already a ton) that seems like it would at least give people something to do. 

 

My premium ends in 2023, if there Is anyone who wants this game to succeed it is me.. 

 

Also they should throw in game modes of old back in.. here's looking at you attrition :)

 

You're a bit too late for that.  Pretty much everyone had left prior to me arriving in late 2015 so that party is already over. 

 

And you know, I'm not sure how "having something for everyone to do" would be improved by an all bot version of the game.  I mean, are there battles mysteriously being deleted because a human player may have inadvertently wandered into bot-ville?  Enquiring minds want to know. 


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View PostBB3_Oregon_Steel, on 08 December 2019 - 06:47 PM, said:

I mean, are there battles mysteriously being deleted because a human player may have inadvertently wandered into bot-ville?  Enquiring minds want to know. 

Not sure what you're talking about.

 

There are people who only play training flight for some planes not desirable in PVPs, (notably, less aerial combat-capable GAAs and bombers, and some unsalvageably weak MRs).

So PVE will definitely improve gameplay experience for these, to say the least.



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View Postvcharng, on 08 December 2019 - 06:29 PM, said:

Not sure what you're talking about.

 

There are people who only play training flight for some planes not desirable in PVPs, (notably, less aerial combat-capable GAAs and bombers, and some unsalvageably weak MRs).

So PVE will definitely improve gameplay experience for these, to say the least.

Well it's pretty obvious.  You're previous post indicated that "Even if they threw a mode that was the game we have now just guaranteed only bots (which happens already a ton) that seems like it would at least give people something to do." Which implies that without a PVE system, there are times when players have nothing to do.  Btw, you said this immediately after indicating that many games are you vs the bots anyway.  :amazed:

 

I mean, there very well might be a good reason for a pure PVE mode, but the reason you provided makes zero sense to me. 


"Don't mess with me because I can squish you like a bug, that is If I should decide to notice your existence in the first place".  

 

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While i personally prefer facing bots over players, I am not sure if the playerbase on the whole agrees. For those who prefer facing players whenever possible, having some players off facing bots would reduce the frequency of players facing off against each other. There are times when I want to face players, but more often than not, facing bots allows me to play planes that are often viewed as underated without fear of facing specialized EF-131's. Because so many players fly specialized op planes, i hesitate to fly anything outside of the meta just because I won't be competitive. If anyone reads this comment, i'm curious if you would prefer a mode like this at the cost of less players in the random queue or if you're like me and SLAY and prefer a bot only pve mode.

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View PostSgtSchlautter, on 09 December 2019 - 09:49 AM, said:

While i personally prefer facing bots over players, I am not sure if the playerbase on the whole agrees. For those who prefer facing players whenever possible, having some players off facing bots would reduce the frequency of players facing off against each other. There are times when I want to face players, but more often than not, facing bots allows me to play planes that are often viewed as underated without fear of facing specialized EF-131's. Because so many players fly specialized op planes, i hesitate to fly anything outside of the meta just because I won't be competitive. If anyone reads this comment, i'm curious if you would prefer a mode like this at the cost of less players in the random queue or if you're like me and SLAY and prefer a bot only pve mode.


Yeah, I understand too. For example, I’ve had, every now and again, 6-player-per-team 12-player-in-all matches, and HOLY CRAP are they EVER unfun! Every time you are on a human’s tail, there’s a human on yours, and at best if you are lucky, you will get one of them and trade but usually the human player on your tail gets you before you are able to take out the human in front of you! Worse yet, if you do the “right” thing and disengage from the target, YOU GET NOTHING! GAME OVER, YOU LOSE, and the DISGUSTING IMBECILE who was the one on your tail and also the one who shot you down moves on to the next target, feeling like they are a 90% WR player, and “easily the best player in this game”(Not an actual quote, or that I am implying that anyone has ever said this to me, but still). I’ve usually only experienced them top tier, but CAN YOU IMAGINE THEM AS A BOTTOM TIER STOCK PLANE THAT YOU AREN’T VERY GOOD IN YET?! Hope you like dying 7 or more times in ONE match!

 

 

Also, is it just me or are teams relatively imbalanced in relation to skill in these types of matches? I’ve only ever had potatoes on my team in the matches that I have seen that are like what I described above.

 

 


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