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Which is the better first multirole line to grind to Tier X, British or USN?

  1. British Multiroles (9 votes [64.29%] - View)

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  2. USN Multiroles(Corsair line) (5 votes [35.71%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.71%

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legoboy0401 #1 Posted 22 November 2019 - 09:27 PM

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I'm on the Hurricane II in the British Multirole line, and I was wondering if I should quit it and grind the USN Multirole(Corsair) line instead as my first multirole line to Tier X.

 

 

 

Which in your opinion is the better first one to grind to Tier X?

 

 

 

You can answer this question in the poll, although explanations would be appreciated too.

 

 

 

I thank you in advance for your advice!

 

 

 

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hoom #2 Posted 22 November 2019 - 10:29 PM

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I'm only up to the F2G (purchased but not flown yet) but I have the entire UK line from the mighty Skua up to the Hunter in hangar & specialised.

 

I'd say the UK line is significantly more newbie friendly.

The only really significant block is the Typhoon stock config where you are stuck with underpowered engine & 12* 0.303s, have to research the Airframe upgrade before you can mount 20mms & they're not a shared module so you have to research the 20mm too.

Its one of the few cases where you absolutely need to FreeXP stuff & its a pretty costly investment because you need 2 upgrades.

 

US starts out with some pretty mediocre planes with F2A, F4F (I really tried to like it, even Specialised it with Ultimate gear but its still a stinker compared to loads of other T5s), F4U-1 & -4 are superb though, very similar to Tornado/Typhoon.

 


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Marraskuu #3 Posted 22 November 2019 - 10:49 PM

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USN has the F2A Buffalo.

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Bobby_Tables #4 Posted 22 November 2019 - 10:55 PM

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I cannot make a recommendation as I have not ground thru the British line as yet.  Still stuck on the Typhoon.  

 

However, on the US line, you can count your blessings with the new and improved US Tech Tree.  It used to be that you would need to double-grind the F2G to get the F-94D and then re-grind to get the F6U.  Now they moved the F6U over to the fighter (Mustang) line which makes more sense.  In any case, the F2G used to be such a show-stopper in terms of grind, but it's not so much nowadays. 

 

But... with that said, the US line gets you to the F-94D which is really unique in terms of the Vulcan cannon.  No other plane in the game has this cannon and it is really fun.  It's like a shark with freakin' "lasers" .  There's nothing else like it in the game.  So, if you are fan of Kelly Johnson and his focus on the same darn plane with a different wing and engine (F-80, F-94, U2, F-104, etc...) this plane is a part of history.  

 

Then again, the British Hunter is also a very significant part of history.

 

Ah heck, do both.  



legoboy0401 #5 Posted 22 November 2019 - 11:13 PM

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View PostBobby_Tables, on 22 November 2019 - 02:55 PM, said:

I cannot make a recommendation as I have not ground thru the British line as yet.  Still stuck on the Typhoon.  

 

However, on the US line, you can count your blessings with the new and improved US Tech Tree.  It used to be that you would need to double-grind the F2G to get the F-94D and then re-grind to get the F6U.  Now they moved the F6U over to the fighter (Mustang) line which makes more sense.  In any case, the F2G used to be such a show-stopper in terms of grind, but it's not so much nowadays. 

 

But... with that said, the US line gets you to the F-94D which is really unique in terms of the Vulcan cannon.  No other plane in the game has this cannon and it is really fun.  It's like a shark with freakin' "lasers" .  There's nothing else like it in the game.  So, if you are fan of Kelly Johnson and his focus on the same darn plane with a different wing and engine (F-80, F-94, U2, F-104, etc...) this plane is a part of history.  

 

Then again, the British Hunter is also a very significant part of history.

 

Ah heck, do both.  

 

I am eventually going to do both, but I want to know which one is the best introduction to multirole fighters.


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Dapprman #6 Posted 22 November 2019 - 11:23 PM

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I would say Tempest (which I'm presently on) is far worse than the Typhoon, I'd even suggest it is possibly the worst plane in the game when stock, though I was not helped by the fact I decided to keep my specialised Typhoon so had to start on a new pilot as well .. - however going guns (as you literally just bounce lots of lead with the stock ones), airframe (gives both speed and manoeuvre boost) and then first engine transformed it in to a beast.

US wise I'm only on the F4F at present, which I would actually suggest is worse than it's predecessor, the F2A, even fully researched out.



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Having just gone through leveling both US and UK multiroles it felt that US line was easier to grind. 

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 I would say Tempest (which I'm presently on) is far worse than the Typhoon

 It actually has 20mms stock & the upgrade isn't tied to the airframe, its absolutely not worse.


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If you love Boom N Zoom and hate Turn N Burn like me, then it's Corsairs all the way. The line at least gives you an enjoyable tier 6 and 7 with a tier 9 worth grinding for. I'm on the F2G right now and hating it, but it's better than hating the whole Hawker line from tier 6 all the way to tier 10.


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Yeah the UK line is more TnB, though I also run the F4Us TnB...
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The UK Multiroles are the easier line IMO. They have excellent maneuverability and controllability so despite their hard turn time being in the 10.8s range, they can turn with Lavochkins and even Spitfires if the Spit pilot isn't particularly skilled. They also have the superior 20mms to play with and lose less engine power above their optimals making them a lot more flexible. At both Elite and Specialist, they are the better line.

 

Where they fall down are thoroughly awful stock grinds. The Typhoon's stock grind is painful and the Tempest can be a challenge. They also have their "hump" plane at tier 9 instead of tier 5 so you wind up having to deal with an incredibly average plane right at the point almost every other line gets a massive power spike. In contrast, the USN line gets the Starfire which is a superb air-to-air  multirole by any standard.

 

Overall, I would recommend the UK Multiroles as your first MRF line to tier 10. They are generally easier to fly and IMO more capable (but this is a bit more subjective). 


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british multi is worlds better than USN, the usn might be the worst line in the game that I have seen aside from ground attack
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I would say the UK multiroles are the better line.

 

I actually like the USN line better, superior speed and durability with the F2G and F7U getting pretty powerful ordnance and the F-94D being one of the strongest tier 9 planes in the game. The F7U is also a good plane once you kit it out and I generally have good fun with it, however until you kit it out it can be a bit of a struggle since it lacks both maneuverability and acceleration. It's quite odd the F7U goes from one of the worst to one of the best tier 10's, but that's mostly due to soft stats being gutted after 1.X; equipment fixes this.

 

However, the UK multiroles are a lot easier to learn, have extremely fast reloading ordnance until Hunter, and in general are closely matched to the Corsairs. The Sea Hawk is a mediocre but still completely serviceable aircraft though having your speed bump at tier 9 is... brutal. The Hunter is really good though and is surprisingly well-balanced for having quad ADENs and the heaviest ordnance load of any MRF in the game. However post-Tornado all modules are completely unique to each plane (you even have to research ordnance on the Hunter) and thus require researching them out.

 

To be honest, you can choose either (preferably both due to their similarities in tiers 6/7/8; they even have the same guns) the USN line focuses more on speed and durability while the UK line focuses more on agility and versatility.


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View PostReitousair, on 23 November 2019 - 12:58 AM, said:

I would say the UK multiroles are the better line.

 

I actually like the USN line better, superior speed and durability with the F2G and F7U getting pretty powerful ordnance and the F-94D being one of the strongest tier 9 planes in the game. The F7U is also a good plane once you kit it out and I generally have good fun with it, however until you kit it out it can be a bit of a struggle since it lacks both maneuverability and acceleration. It's quite odd the F7U goes from one of the worst to one of the best tier 10's, but that's mostly due to soft stats being gutted after 1.X; equipment fixes this.

 

However, the UK multiroles are a lot easier to learn, have extremely fast reloading ordnance until Hunter, and in general are closely matched to the Corsairs. The Sea Hawk is a mediocre but still completely serviceable aircraft though having your speed bump at tier 9 is... brutal. The Hunter is really good though and is surprisingly well-balanced for having quad ADENs and the heaviest ordnance load of any MRF in the game. However post-Tornado all modules are completely unique to each plane (you even have to research ordnance on the Hunter) and thus require researching them out.

 

To be honest, you can choose either (preferably both due to their similarities in tiers 6/7/8; they even have the same guns) the USN line focuses more on speed and durability while the UK line focuses more on agility and versatility.

Agreed, the only thing I would add of my own opinion to this is that I feel like the USN line starts -out- weaker (Because you're right, it's a speed dependent line and low tiers.. speed separation just isn't big enough to make it -as- easy to use as a turner) but it's T8-10 is stronger than the T8-10 of the UK line. Whereas the UK line starts out stronger especially because of its agility.. but then T9 is a dud to my view and T10 recovers from that somewhat but I still feel as if the Hunter is inferior to the Cutlass when you compare them both equipped with a 12 point pilot at the stick. May be a preference thing.. but also the F7U gets really twitchy-fast agile when fully geared and while the Hunter is pretty maneuverable.. it doesn't quite equal the F7U(Cutlass), at least with the builds I run. it -does- outclass the Cutlass in Ordnance.. but I personally prefer the 4 bombs of the Cutlass over the missile/bomb combination of the Hunter. The other thing I will state at T10 in difference is 2 engines vs 1 and the handling (especially/specifically when damaged) differences between one engine and two and the Cutlass' two engines are.. more forgiving? 

 



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View Postlegoboy0401, on 22 November 2019 - 09:27 PM, said:

I'm on the Hurricane II in the British Multirole line, and I was wondering if I should quit it and grind the USN Multirole(Corsair) line instead as my first multirole line to Tier X.

 

 

 

Which in your opinion is the better first one to grind to Tier X?

 

 

 

You can answer this question in the poll, although explanations would be appreciated too.

 

 

 

I thank you in advance for your advice!

 

 

 

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I have not gone down the USN MRF line, but I have been considering it.  Once I get my other three lines I'm currently working on to T10, then I can think about another line grind...

 

But I do know a little something about the UK line.  I have a specialist Tornado, and a specialist Typhoon, working on specialist for my Tempest, and am working on getting through my Sea Hawk.  As the others have said, the Sea Hawk is a grind.  A painful grind.  This plane is so completely "meh" that you can do a reasonable job against bots, but if you have a human in-game, you can kiss your victory goodbye, if they have even the first clue.  After how incredibly good the Typhoon and Tempest were, and how fantastic the Tornado can be, the Sea Hawk is SO disappointing.  And, as has been discussed, almost no modules carry over.  So, the Sea Hawk is a GIANT grind.  I will have to fly 30 more battles in it to get enough XP for the Hunter.

 

Let's put it like this:  If I had to choose a multirole to fly at T9, I might choose the Starfire (USN) over the Sea Hawk, only because I know how painful the Sea Hawk is to play at T9.  But my hand would go immediately to the T9 German Batplane.  In no universe would I pick the Sea Hawk as a go-to for anything.  BUT, the Hunter feels like it will a good plane at T10, a worthy opponent to almost any other plane.  I am looking forward to it, for no other reason than I can pull my Sea Hawk pilot out of that plane, and put him to work elsewhere.  I won't sell the Sea Hawk, because "never sell a plane", but I sure as heck will pull all the modules off and sell THEM, and send the consumables back to the depot.

I would put the Sea Hawk in the same basket as I put the F7F - a plane that one just has to endure.  I understand that the F2G feels somewhat the same in T8 in the USN line.  And, if you decide to go that way, the FW-190A-1 in the German line.

Heck, I'm still working on the Soviet MRF line.  :)


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View Posthoom, on 22 November 2019 - 11:56 PM, said:

 It actually has 20mms stock & the upgrade isn't tied to the airframe, its absolutely not worse.


Soryr you're right it's 20mm - but they seem to be just the wrong side of ebing able to do damage if tiered up.  Beast with upgrades, but I stick by my views when stock.



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View PostDapprman, on 23 November 2019 - 05:41 PM, said:


Soryr you're right it's 20mm - but they seem to be just the wrong side of ebing able to do damage if tiered up.  Beast with upgrades, but I stick by my views when stock.


I (sort of) agree.  I felt that the plane was OK stock, but was very good once you got all the parts.  Much like the Typhoon.  The MGs with the stock airplane were almost worthless at T7.  Once it had cannons, it could rock the T7 world.  I will say this - all the UK MRF suffer when downtiered.  The Tornado is acceptable, but still has to pick and choose where it goes and when.



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vote for corsairs.

Corsair lines helps players to learn how to play multirole fighter (and boom & zoom). corsairs have the good engine and powerful weapons, and appropriate outboard weapons to strike air and ground and some of their modules are compatible and they reduce researching cost.

on the other hands, Hawkers have powerful weapons earlier than corsairs, outboard weapons, and also maneuverability (till tempest). but they are to slow and it is disadvantage to moving sector to sector. and hawkers have compatible modules till tier 6. But upper, there is no compatible module. Also, the end of hawkers is ultimately boom & zoom fighter.

So I recommend corsairs first.
 

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I won't say that the UK line is better, but (for me) it's definitely easier. Probably because of my limited play-style, TnB. So for the US multi roles I concentrate on ground pounding but with the UK line I can also dogfight. 

For US I'm stuck at tier VIII (XP-72 & F2G) and for UK I'm grinding for tier X (Hunter).


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