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Booze_Morgan #1 Posted 20 November 2019 - 12:22 AM

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Almost worked my way up the Messerschmidt line, just need the tier 10.  What is a good premium, the best premium really, for a 109 pilot to fly to upskill pilots and get more credits and the like?

 

I have the 209 V4, and just no. Should I pick up the German Spit V, the 190 A-8, or the  109 TL?

 

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legoboy0401 #2 Posted 20 November 2019 - 12:26 AM

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The general consensus seems to be that the Spitfire DB 605 would be your best bet. The problem with both the Multiroles is they are incredibly hard to fly for how little little potential they have. Or, you could just go and purchase the Horton Ho 229, which is broken OP in most players’ hands.

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Booze_Morgan #3 Posted 20 November 2019 - 12:26 AM

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I think I just answered my own question, but wanna hear what you guys have to say.

 

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Booze_Morgan #4 Posted 20 November 2019 - 12:29 AM

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Ah'ight, let's add the Horton to the list. Thanks Lego.

 

EDIT:  Bought the Horton, but I still wanna know about the other three, please if you guys would. Thanks!


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View PostBooze_Morgan, on 19 November 2019 - 07:22 PM, said:

Almost worked my way up the Messerschmidt line, just need the tier 10.  What is a good premium, the best premium really, for a 109 pilot to fly to upskill pilots and get more credits and the like?

 

I have the 209 V4, and just no. Should I pick up the German Spit V, the 190 A-8, or the  109 TL?

 

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The 209 V4? Same thought here...pyak. I just got it to add to the collection.  Massively undergunned, so it's a hangar queen. Don't have the 190 or the TL but I can recommend the German Spit. The price is right, so you'll not go far wrong with it even if you get something else in the end.  It's a worthy bird and a gas to fly.

 

Booze, what's your take on the 229?

I'm thinking of picking it up for future endeavours ie. buy now, use later.

Like my XP-58, it's outside my league at present since at T6 and above i'm wearing Milk Bone underwear, but it may be something to add to my "Aspire to" collection if there's a kind word or two about it.  A jet sniper sounds fun but at $73 the price is pretty hefty.

 

 


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Booze_Morgan #6 Posted 20 November 2019 - 01:58 AM

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View PostDeltavee, on 19 November 2019 - 07:42 PM, said:

 

The 209 V4? Same thought here...pyak. I just got it to add to the collection.  Massively undergunned, so it's a hangar queen. Don't have the 190 or the TL but I can recommend the German Spit. You'll not go far wrong with it even if you get something else in the end.  It's a worthy bird and a gas to fly.

 

Booze, what's your take on the 229?

I'm thinking of picking up the middle bundle for future endeavours ie. buy now, use later.

Like my XP-58, it's outside my league at present since at T6 and above i'm wearing Milk Bone underwear, but it may be something to add to my "Aspire to" collection if there's a kind word or two about it.  A jet sniper sounds fun but at $73 the price is pretty hefty.

 

 

 

Flew the Ho several times just after I bought it. The boom ... boom ... boomm..... overheated dual 30 MMs are a bit hard for me to hit with, but MAN when they hit, parts of the plane get vaporized.  If you can aim the cannons, you will do well in this plane.

 

It does not turn well, but turns better with the manoeuvre add ons.  It does turn better than I THOUGHT it would, but it is definitely better to not get in a turn battle.  Best way is to catch someone unawares, aim well, and WHAM WHAM they are blown into the next dimension.  Altitude is not great, but I got high enough to wear out some bombers and high flying heavies.

 

That's all I can say about it at this point Delta.

 

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View PostBooze_Morgan, on 19 November 2019 - 08:58 PM, said:

 

Flew the Ho several times just after I bought it. The boom ... boom ... boomm..... overheated dual 30 MMs are a bit hard for me to hit with, but MAN when they hit, parts of the plane get vaporized.  If you can aim the cannons, you will do well in this plane.

 

It does not turn well, but turns better with the manoeuvre add ons.  It does turn better than I THOUGHT it would, but it is definitely better to not get in a turn battle.  Best way is to catch someone unawares, aim well, and WHAM WHAM they are blown into the next dimension.  Altitude is not great, but I got high enough to wear out some bombers and high flying heavies.

 

That's all I can say about it at this point Delta.

 

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Thanks, Booze. 

You confirmed what I thought was probably the case.  Think I'll give it a miss and go sniff around other jets.

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Maqor #8 Posted 20 November 2019 - 06:40 AM

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View PostBooze_Morgan, on 20 November 2019 - 12:22 AM, said:

Almost worked my way up the Messerschmidt line, just need the tier 10.  What is a good premium, the best premium really, for a 109 pilot to fly to upskill pilots and get more credits and the like?

 

I have the 209 V4, and just no. Should I pick up the German Spit V, the 190 A-8, or the  109 TL?

 

Booze

 

Do 335 A-1 is another option. It has the Mk 103 long range 30mm from the Me 209 A but with a higher rate of fire and much better overheat characteristics. It also can outclimb most same tier heavies and all the multiroles to play the vertical boom n zoom game. That may make it an easy enough transition from the Messerschmidt fighter line... that is, if you're willing to use the excellent bombs this plane gets (four 250 kg bombs with a 120-second reload).



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Check in with Rei's posts here for a good view on the planes available but the Spit DB is the best of the lot. The TL is decent but hard to use and the A-8 is just... No. 

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Got an Akamatsu medal in my 229 the night before last. Damn thin prints credits, too...

 

Bit of a fan of the 109TL too atm... have to max out the equipment on it, and have a high skill pilot to get the most out of it,  tho'!

 



Booze_Morgan #11 Posted 21 November 2019 - 02:12 AM

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Thanks, everyone.  Looks like I am leaning toward the Spit and the Do 335. Maqor, you made it sound interesting.

 

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get 'em both.    it's only money     

 

they're such different play styles

 

get the DB first, and report back what you think


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View PostBooze_Morgan, on 21 November 2019 - 02:12 AM, said:

Thanks, everyone.  Looks like I am leaning toward the Spit and the Do 335. Maqor, you made it sound interesting.

 

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It's a fun plane, as long as you love heavy fighters or hate turning. Try the Me 410 first, though.



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IU f your true purpose is to premium grind credits and exp for a high skilled, tier 9-10, german light fighter and its pilot ... Use the  Spit DB 605. The play styles between those three planes are similar enough that what works for one works for all.

Ho229 is a reasonable match for the Ta 1xx line.  due to the very similar gun performance and weird slight characteristics.

A Do 335 running slick with a turn build  flies and shoots like a mid tier Messerschmidt. Except that this one goes to Eleven.
Great for knocking the rust off your boom and zoom skillset

Carrying bombs in a super-cruise build is a completely different animal.
A Wild Weasel if you will ...
... the only other german plane that comes even close to that play style is the Me 210.

There is another german heavy at teir 8 the BV P.203 . Compared to the Do 335 the BV has twice the engines, twice the guns, twice the turning problems, and a Turret. No bombs or rockets.
Flying this particular premium in teir 8 is very much like an Me 410 in tier 6.

The 109TL on paper seems like Dora the Exploder's monstrous tier 7 gun package is crammed into a nose mount instead of spread out across half the wing span.  so hitting a target with all your guns is much easier even with high angles of deflection.
You also get the ordinance. Definitely fast. If you dont want to be caught, a full tank of boost will  take you far.
Thus ends the good news. Now the bad.
Unlike the Dora you have the roll rate of a heavy fighter. and the twin jets are rather fragile engines. 
And as such trades away all of the engine power problems that plague the Fw 190 line for engine crit vulnerability 
Thus some players find it more reminicent of Me 109's. and fly it that way.  YMMV
All in all its not really super awesome like every other premium on this list so far.

The Fw 190 A-8 is a teir 7 premium that is in every way worse than the elite version of its tech tree counter part. But until you have an elite Dora, the A-8 makes a good player trainer and credit maker. afterward you have better things to fly.
The best time to get one is Before your go up the German Multirole line. . if you hate flying it you will hate flying the rest of the Fw line. Get that refund and move on to something else entirely. If you like it then its a premium credit maker pilot xp grinder while you go through the line.  

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is much like my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.

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Just got and flew the German Spit a couple times.  Guns kinda ticked me off at first, then I learned to get as close as I could before firing and watched their bars go down pretty fast.  Turning is meh, but respecialized it to turn better and that helped. The freakin' roll increased almost comedically!  With some forethought, staying in its altitude range, and absolute insistence on capping capping capping, got good kills and enjoyed flying the plane.  Exp rewards were well noticable.

 

In a pre 2.0 tier 6 battle against all humans (a Drac, an ACESHIGH or 2, maybe an ES, a TFE and a GW, throw in a Wraith), or even 60% humans, I can see where this plane would need a flight mate and lots of forethought.  Against bots and 1 to 4 2.0 humans, it can be a dangerous plane.  It was in my hands, anyway.  Thanks for sending me its way!

 

Will eventually get a 335, looking forward to it.

 

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Got the Do 335, fought 3, lost 3.:teethhappy:  I will not be carrying a battle in that plane like I do the Mezzer line.  It flies exactly like has been described.

 

First battle I have an excuse, I was kept outta the battle till 3/4 way through it.  Had to reboot the game to get into the battle.  Second two was because I am still getting used to the plane, but YEAH I enjoy flying that beast.  I may never get good enough to carry in it, but I will definitely enjoy becoming a little bit dangerous in it.  Swooping down taking a few very damaging shots at planes, dive bombing a target, then levelling off while travelling very fast to drop the last 2 or 3 bombs didn't get dropped in the dive, swopping OUTTA there taking more shots and gettin' the heck outta Dodge while looking for high alt planes to harass on the way back up into orbit.

 

Yeah, I like the plane.

 

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