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Content_WG #1 Posted 19 November 2019 - 11:56 AM

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Join the last battle of the Fall Campaign! Do not miss the opportunity to take part in the race for the McDonnell XF-85 Goblin and other cool prizes!

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SpiritFoxMY #2 Posted 19 November 2019 - 01:12 PM

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The airplanes chosen for this leaderboard are terrible - you can already tell its going to be P-38F, Beaufighter, Emil, SpitfireXIV, IL-40, IL-40P and P.1102B as far as the eye can see. Maybe the odd Pancake holdout but that's it. Seriously, who picks these planes?

 

Personally I'm probably just going to fly Su-10 all weekend. I've already gotten all the chevrons I need for the P-39N-1


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BigBadWolf #3 Posted 19 November 2019 - 01:25 PM

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Having a (heavy) Fighter event same time as Bomber/GAA event seems a bit scewed. Tier V gonna be crowded for sure. And yes - weird plane selection for the event. Still looking forward to it! 

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Oh boy thats quite an eclectic collection of Fighters :amazed:

Straight forward max Personal Points target.

 

I've already got both prizes & secured the T8 overall so I think I'll stick with my plan for a 2-chevron effort.

Though damn being within 3 chevrons of the Gobling is hella tempting me to no-life it just for satisfaction of getting there if I can...

 

On the face of it I'm first attracted to just spam my trusty La-5 but there are a bunch of others including my recently acquired Me 262 that kinda scream out 'play me' :unsure:

Maybe 10 of each?


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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 19 November 2019 - 04:12 PM, said:

The airplanes chosen for this leaderboard are terrible - you can already tell its going to be P-38F, Beaufighter, Emil, SpitfireXIV, IL-40, IL-40P and P.1102B as far as the eye can see. Maybe the odd Pancake holdout but that's it. Seriously, who picks these planes?

 

Personally I'm probably just going to fly Su-10 all weekend. I've already gotten all the chevrons I need for the P-39N-1

 

They are the most popular fighters within 5 nations and 4 servers. Yes, it's that simple :) 



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View PostblindfoId, on 19 November 2019 - 08:13 AM, said:

 

They are the most popular fighters within 5 nations and 4 servers. Yes, it's that simple :) 

 

Cool BF.  Makes sense to me.

 

Might be fun to have an event with the least flown planes for the fun of it.  Maybe a side event along with a major event.  Call it "Lonely Ducks" event, or something.  Can you imagine battles with the least liked planes all against each other? :teethhappy:

 

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SpiritFoxMY #7 Posted 19 November 2019 - 03:24 PM

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View PostblindfoId, on 19 November 2019 - 10:13 PM, said:

 

They are the most popular fighters within 5 nations and 4 servers. Yes, it's that simple :) 

 

As I mentioned on the Discord, I'm pretty sure these planes are "popular" for two very different reasons - they're either insanely meta or are hardcore "roadblock" planes that people suffer through to get to more popular planes beyond or just drop and fly something else. Might want to grade planes by WnR rather than how many battles they've been flown in.


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wylleEcoyote #8 Posted 19 November 2019 - 03:31 PM

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View PostblindfoId, on 19 November 2019 - 09:13 AM, said:

 

They are the most popular fighters within 5 nations and 4 servers. Yes, it's that simple :) 


TIme to buy your favorite girl(s) a fresh paint job and adorn them with those gold consumables that have been piling up from weekly supply drops. :coin:
Take them out dancing this weekend and remember why you fell in love with them in the first place!  :great:

 


Edited by wylleEcoyote, 19 November 2019 - 04:21 PM.

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is much like my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.

Specialist Planes I have from : Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:   XP-31, Model 81A-1, P-40, P-51A, P-39N-1, XF15C, DH.100 F1, Fw 56, He 112, Bf 109 B / E / E-3 / F, Me 209 v4 / A, Me P.1092, I-17
Multi-Roles: Type 91, F11C-2, F4F, P-47B, Fw 190 A-1 / A-5 / D, I- 5 / 15 / 16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: P-38 F/J,  XP-58, Beaufighter,  Bf 110 C-6, Me 410, Do 335 A-1, Me 262, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: Hs 123, Ha 137, Hs 129 A, Ju 87 G, Me 265, Me 1099 B-2
Bombers: Do 17 Z, He 111 H2, Pe-2, Do 217 M
 


SgtSchlautter #9 Posted 19 November 2019 - 03:46 PM

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hm, not having the same tier spread in each bracket seems a bit peculiar to me. it lets tier 9 GA always be top tier against players flying the max tier in the other bracket. just seems strange to me. Heck, flying tier 10 GA should make the event quite easy. That is the bracket i'm doing as the only opposition ill face is other GA or players who don't care about the event :D 

wylleEcoyote #10 Posted 19 November 2019 - 06:34 PM

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 19 November 2019 - 10:24 AM, said:

 

As I mentioned on the Discord, I'm pretty sure these planes are "popular" for two very different reasons - they're either insanely meta or are hardcore "roadblock" planes that people suffer through to get to more popular planes beyond or just drop and fly something else. Might want to grade planes by WnR rather than how many battles they've been flown in.



I am not entirely prepared to agree with you there. At least as far as the Bomber/Attacker list goes.

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Honestly these planes (and their enthusiasts) haven't gotten much love yet for this event. Nice of WeeGee to get around to it.

As for the list of Fighters meant to take them on ... I do find your argument more compelling, Spirit.
P-38's and B®eau(ken)fighters and Bf109 E are Queens of their Meta for a reason.

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The tier 5 (and 6) MultiRoles on the list are known for being speed bumps. But most transition planes are.

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As such, most players free exp or fail their way through to 'better' stuff in less competitive tiers.

And yet ...

 Still they need to be here to do their job. In this case; Countering the events tier 5 Bomber/attacker list. 
Also they missed out on some love when they appeared in earlier events. So hooray for that

As for other meme/meta-for-a-reason planes:

Seeing tier 6 Mustang on the list is not a real surprise. It may not be the "Most Loved" but it certainly is the "Least Hated" in its class.

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The Me 262 is a heavy german tech tree power house that is still relevant to its meta in spite of all the many many heavy tier 8's (premium and otherwise) it competes with. She has been in the spotlight before but we see her here again. 

I wont speak much more about anything else here on the list. Because i dont have those planes.
I am definitely sticking to the metaphor that this portion of the Fall Campaign is that "last dance" you save for the favorite girl you came to the party with.
 
 


Edited by wylleEcoyote, 19 November 2019 - 07:33 PM.

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is much like my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.

Specialist Planes I have from : Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:   XP-31, Model 81A-1, P-40, P-51A, P-39N-1, XF15C, DH.100 F1, Fw 56, He 112, Bf 109 B / E / E-3 / F, Me 209 v4 / A, Me P.1092, I-17
Multi-Roles: Type 91, F11C-2, F4F, P-47B, Fw 190 A-1 / A-5 / D, I- 5 / 15 / 16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: P-38 F/J,  XP-58, Beaufighter,  Bf 110 C-6, Me 410, Do 335 A-1, Me 262, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: Hs 123, Ha 137, Hs 129 A, Ju 87 G, Me 265, Me 1099 B-2
Bombers: Do 17 Z, He 111 H2, Pe-2, Do 217 M
 


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I guess Ki-84 is not popular. And Ki-94-II way more popular, it's similar plane, but in a tier higher. Maybe some people really wanted Ki-162, or a plane in tier 8 for missions.

Anyway, there is a mission for fighters, let's get back to our venerable Bf-109Es and prepare to grind personal points.

Or does anyone prefer the "popular" Fw-190A1? I don't think so.



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View Postegikov, on 19 November 2019 - 02:16 PM, said:

 

Or does anyone prefer the "popular" Fw-190A1? I don't think so.


It does make an unexpected impact, when used well. Kinda like the Spanish Inquisition. :)

When it comes to choosing between that an Emile it depends on the altitude i want to play in.
Bf does better up high. Fw does better down low.


Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is much like my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.

Specialist Planes I have from : Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:   XP-31, Model 81A-1, P-40, P-51A, P-39N-1, XF15C, DH.100 F1, Fw 56, He 112, Bf 109 B / E / E-3 / F, Me 209 v4 / A, Me P.1092, I-17
Multi-Roles: Type 91, F11C-2, F4F, P-47B, Fw 190 A-1 / A-5 / D, I- 5 / 15 / 16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: P-38 F/J,  XP-58, Beaufighter,  Bf 110 C-6, Me 410, Do 335 A-1, Me 262, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: Hs 123, Ha 137, Hs 129 A, Ju 87 G, Me 265, Me 1099 B-2
Bombers: Do 17 Z, He 111 H2, Pe-2, Do 217 M
 


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View PostwylleEcoyote, on 20 November 2019 - 03:54 AM, said:


It does make an unexpected impact, when used well. Kinda like the Spanish Inquisition. :)

When it comes to choosing between that an Emile it depends on the altitude i want to play in.
Bf does better up high. Fw does better down low.

 

As a dedicated Focke Wulf player, the A-1 does not do better than anything at tier 5 except doing the Brave Sir Robin and then circling back. It can hold its own against the unskilled and unwary but if you get chased down by a conga line of Specialized humans (like I did in the second Leaderboard), all you can do is die.


Edited by SpiritFoxMY, 21 November 2019 - 04:45 AM.

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Bobby_Tables #14 Posted 21 November 2019 - 05:24 AM

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Since I have already clinched the Hurricane IID, I am at a impasse.  Do I play my IL-40/IL-40P to the max or do I just slack off and play Yahtzee with the family in front of the fire?  



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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 20 November 2019 - 11:45 PM, said:

 

As a dedicated Focke Wulf player, the A-1 does not do better than anything at tier 5 except doing the Brave Sir Robin and then circling back. It can hold its own against the unskilled and unwary but if you get chased down by a conga line of Specialized humans (like I did in the second Leaderboard), all you can do is die.



Your not wrong. But Unskilled and/or Unwary is a pretty common descriptor of the bulk of the players and bots.
Conga lines do happen, And it does hurt.  In that case at least the Fw has the speed to always be capping some place where that enemy is not.

Yeah its hard to do well sometimes. Yet personally  I often find that there is Glory in the Struggle. 
Racking up 3+ chevrons and 10k+ points in an A-1 or F4F has much more meaning to me than doing the same in any of the "usual suspects" in tier 5.
YMMV


Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is much like my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.

Specialist Planes I have from : Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:   XP-31, Model 81A-1, P-40, P-51A, P-39N-1, XF15C, DH.100 F1, Fw 56, He 112, Bf 109 B / E / E-3 / F, Me 209 v4 / A, Me P.1092, I-17
Multi-Roles: Type 91, F11C-2, F4F, P-47B, Fw 190 A-1 / A-5 / D, I- 5 / 15 / 16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: P-38 F/J,  XP-58, Beaufighter,  Bf 110 C-6, Me 410, Do 335 A-1, Me 262, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: Hs 123, Ha 137, Hs 129 A, Ju 87 G, Me 265, Me 1099 B-2
Bombers: Do 17 Z, He 111 H2, Pe-2, Do 217 M
 


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 From November 22 at 00:00 PT / 03:00 ET till November 24 at 00:00 PT / 03:00 ET

 

From November 22 at 00:00 PT / 03:00 ET till November 24 at 23:59 PT / 25 02:59 ET

Is this it....?

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View Posttoshiaki_virgin, on 21 November 2019 - 12:00 PM, said:

 

From November 22 at 00:00 PT / 03:00 ET till November 24 at 23:59 PT / 25 02:59 ET

Is this it....?

 

Yes, as usual. The timeframe is pretty the same for all such events. If we go into details it'll be "From November 22 at 00:00 PT / November 23 at 03:00 ET till November 24 at 23:59 PT / November 25 at 02:59 ET"



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View PostblindfoId, on 21 November 2019 - 09:08 AM, said:

 

Yes, as usual. The timeframe is pretty the same for all such events. If we go into details it'll be "From November 22 at 00:00 PT / November 23 at 03:00 ET till November 24 at 23:59 PT / November 25 at 02:59 ET"

thank you.

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 19 November 2019 - 10:24 AM, said:

As I mentioned on the Discord, I'm pretty sure these planes are "popular" for two very different reasons - they're either insanely meta or are hardcore "roadblock" planes that people suffer through to get to more popular planes beyond or just drop and fly something else. Might want to grade planes by WnR rather than how many battles they've been flown in.

 

great point.     hard to believe that any of the servers love the Wildcat, either the tree version or the preemie


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I want to join in and complain but I just can't seem to find anything to complain about.  :sceptic:


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