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Trauglodyte #1 Posted 08 November 2019 - 10:04 PM

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I'm looking for a Premium Light Fighter.  I'd LOVE to get my hands on the Horton, but I don't know if/when that will come back.  So, to that extent, I'm kind of stuck with the only option being the Me 209 v4 or the German Spitfire - I'm less thrilled, to go with the Spitfire, since I'd like to stick to actual German planes.  I've got the gold, and am more inclined to spend that than real cash.  I wouldn't mind the Bf 109 E-3, but like the Horton, I don't know when/if it'll come to the shop again and, even then, it would be a cash buy.

 

What are the recommendations and thoughts of the community?



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View PostTrauglodyte, on 08 November 2019 - 02:04 PM, said:

I'm looking for a Premium Light Fighter.  I'd LOVE to get my hands on the Horton, but I don't know if/when that will come back.  So, to that extent, I'm kind of stuck with the only option being the Me 209 v4 or the German Spitfire - I'm less thrilled, to go with the Spitfire, since I'd like to stick to actual German planes.  I've got the gold, and am more inclined to spend that than real cash.  I wouldn't mind the Bf 109 E-3, but like the Horton, I don't know when/if it'll come to the shop again and, even then, it would be a cash buy.

 

What are the recommendations and thoughts of the community?

 

The V4 is rubbish, don't even consider it for a moment. The German Spitfire is OP if you have even a basic understanding of this game, and the Bf-109 E-3 is somewhat weak, so I wouldn't recommend it either.

 

 

The Horton Ho 229 is a fairly decent aircraft, but not at all a good premium for beginners(not the easiest of Tier VIII premiums by a long shot), and generally you don't really want to wallet warrior your way to Tier VIII anyways, as I see your highest Tier is only Tier VI. Heck, I don't even have a Tier VIII yet, and I've been playing this game for far longer. If I were you, I would hold off on buying a Tier VIII premium until you have your first Tech Tree Tier VIII. It's better that way.

 

 

So, then, I would say go for the Spitfire DB 605, the German Spitfire. You will probably enjoy it quite a lot, and it is quite easy but powerful.


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SpiritFoxMY #3 Posted 08 November 2019 - 11:22 PM

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You should check out Reito's Posts here for more information on premiums - at least at the mid Upper tiers.

 

For the Germans, you really don't have much choice - it's either the Spitfire DB or Horten if you want decent premium fighters. The He100 and 209 V4 are both quirky machines that aren't recommended for serious play and the E-3 while decent is weaker than the tech tree Emil and only really works with a special pilot.

 

Edit: Forgot to mention - the one other option is the Ar67 at tier 2 which is a lovely little fighter/sealclubber. That's literally your only option for a good German premium fighter that isn't the Horten or Spit DB. The best German premiums are actually their Heavies and Bombers. 


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hoom #4 Posted 08 November 2019 - 11:33 PM

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There is the Me 109 E-3 but I think that was some kind of special gift plane or something?
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View Posthoom, on 09 November 2019 - 07:33 AM, said:

There is the Me 109 E-3 but I think that was some kind of special gift plane or something?

 

It shows up in the shop from time to time but only in the shop and rarely with the special pilot that makes it good 


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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 08 November 2019 - 06:37 PM, said:

 

It shows up in the shop from time to time but only in the shop and rarely with the special pilot that makes it good 


I really regret not getting him when I got the Ia pilot.

 

OP:  You may want to consider the S-199 in the europe tree.  It's a modified Bf-109G that can be assigned to any nation, so you can simply assign it to Germany.  It's technically a multirole, but you can fly it without bombs and use it as a light fighter.  I attached mine (assigned to RAF) so you can see it's clearly a 109.

 


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I dunno.  The He-100 is pretty fun.

 



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 Do not wallet warrior up to T8, it's filled with monsters and the playstyle is much faster with much less room for error


Each tier teaches a lesson that you need to master to be successful in the next higher tier


the T6 Spit DB is magic, let it help pay your way up to T7 

 


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View Posttrikke, on 09 November 2019 - 03:13 AM, said:

 Do not wallet warrior up to T8, it's filled with monsters and the playstyle is much faster with much less room for error


Each tier teaches a lesson that you need to master to be successful in the next higher tier


the T6 Spit DB is magic, let it help pay your way up to T7 

 

All of this is true.  I bought the Gobling before I really had any idea of what T9 was like.  



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 08 November 2019 - 04:26 PM, said:

I dunno.  The He-100 is pretty fun.

 

 

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It flies nice, it doesn't do a lot of damage though...
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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 09 November 2019 - 10:26 AM, said:

I dunno.  The He-100 is pretty fun.

 

"Fun" and "Serious Play" are two somewhat different things - the J8M is a really fun plane but I would not want to be flying a J8M if I knew that there was even the slightest hint that desert, Reitousair or one of the other top 100 players on NA were around. 


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wylleEcoyote #13 Posted 09 November 2019 - 01:37 PM

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I cast my vote for the E-3 with the special pilot.
Not only is it an excellent trainer for "how to succeed in the Bf 109/Me 209" in the mid to high tiers ...
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Setting aside that this is a difficult item to acquire; lets talk about the others.

The 209 v4 and He 100 are fun.
And very under gunned compared to the Emile (or even the e-3)
as such their over all contribution to winning games and scoring points is frustratingly limited compared to using a Tech tree Emile with ultimate gear.

With that said; once you know how to make the most of them, you can grief/troll the hell out of other human try-hards in tier 5.
Sometimes that is enough for your bots to take the win. Sometimes you focus the wrong human and you still loose.

Extending that caveat further:
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As for the tier 6 spitfire with german altitude performance ... its good for making money and stacking winrate.
But other than the german paint and engines has nothing to do with learning to play german light fighters (until tier 9-10).
 

But hey the OP has all of 400 battles to their name.
Maybe we should be recommending those fun low tier premiums that cost less than a sandwich. And still bring in the credits.
Low cost fun that lets you dabble in playstyles that you may or may not want to explore further. and without chewing up hanger slots.
Even if you hate the plane you can still sell it off and keep the hanger slot for something else

Its hard to go wrong with an xP31 for example. and the Ki-8 is unusually beefy for its tier. 
The Ha 137 is an interesting intro into what its like to play german GAA in teir 7+

Some of the older pilots still treasure their Stösser Rotary Club membership cards.

Any one else have fun cheap low tier premiums to suggest?

Edited by wylleEcoyote, 09 November 2019 - 01:47 PM.

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is much like my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
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the T4 bf-110 c-6 teaches sniping, which is a really valuable skill in higher tiers, but it's not a LF


It's only gun is a super long range 30mm, bigger than anything else at T4, plus a few rifle caliber guns


It's fast and a very stable gun platform, in addition


Excellent sniper pilots do very well in it, I liked it in 1.x but haven't flown it in 2.x because I don't have a steady hand


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Trauglodyte #15 Posted 09 November 2019 - 02:56 PM

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To be clear, this is simply something of a "easy" credit and pilot grinding.  The only reason that I mentioned the Horton was that, outside of the tier 5 and 6 premiums, that is the only other Light Fighter premium.  To my knowledge, that requires a specialized mission (ala the Vampire and XP-55).  I've got Specialist on my Bf 109 B, E, and F.  Despite it saying something about credits, I'm assuming that the premiums would do a better job of grinding those credits anyway.


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View PostTrauglodyte, on 09 November 2019 - 02:56 PM, said:

 The only reason that I mentioned the Horton was that, outside of the tier 5 and 6 premiums, that is the only other Light Fighter premium.


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in that case ... the Spitfire DB 605 is the way to go. 

And it bears mentioning that any European plane that you like to fly is good for training as well.
For a one time cost of a pile of credits you can transfer that plane to any other nation you want to train up its pilots.
And they are all premiums so getting credits is super easy.
 
In which case it bears mentioning
the S-199 is a Bf 109 F that trades a bit of altitude for guns that are upgraded from Meh to Sweeet
(and bombs if you want to learn how to use them)

 

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is much like my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.

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View Posttrikke, on 08 November 2019 - 07:13 PM, said:

 Do not wallet warrior up to T8, it's filled with monsters and the playstyle is much faster with much less room for error


Each tier teaches a lesson that you need to master to be successful in the next higher tier


the T6 Spit DB is magic, let it help pay your way up to T7 

 


one of the first prem's i bought was a 302, J8M bundle.

 

that was a bit rough not gonna lie. My first battle in the J8M i got 3k pp. big oof. That said i did learn from my mistakes i made, a swell as get a feel for the aircraft and improved.

 

do i recommend 8 prem, no.

 

 

 

 

onto the bf 109 e-3. the plane is only "good" if you have the special pilot that gives 10% extra dmg and engine power? if your using it as a trainer, your playing a under-gunned and under-powered bf 109e.

 

for tier 8 german prems the most fighter like is the me 109TL. its,um,ok.............................kinda. the guns are wonky, the alt is bad, it not very maneuverable, the boost isn't really strong and the ordnance is garbage. it is kinda fast though and the guns do very well if you can get them on target.

 

now if you get a chance at getting the Horton and are good with sniper planes, get it. the Horten is very strong in the right hands.


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I'd go with the Spit DB 605 because you can still do well in battle. The aforementioned He 100 & V4 are under gunned and just not fun to play if you're trying to win & make credits/train pilots. 

 

I'd put some equipment for speed and turning because anything that can out turn you, you have the altitude. Anything else just play like a regular Spit and you'll be fine. 


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I say come on up to to VIII. Free hugs and stuff.




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