SpiritFoxMY, on 11 February 2020 - 09:49 AM, said:
There's actually an official post explaining this a good while ago. Basically bot gunners go to full DPS after about 3 seconds of firing, contingent on range of course since they're still governed by the effects of the overall gunner nerf. Essentially it's the same effect as a manual gunner zeroing in. It's just that the bot gunners effectively have 10 skill points - Armorer for longer burst, Ballistics Expert for longer range, Precision Gunner for more crits and rear gun stabilisation for faster aiming (essentially zero for bots) between bursts.
Well if official post saying uptier doesn't stop some people from insisting "downtier" (who evidently talks back every time I mentioned this. I'm not bringing an argument I'm stating the fact that this is the official term, it's the other party arguing.), perhaps we don't have to look at the claim THAT seriously.
There are lots of things that should happen but didn't. Like "Karma" in MM (claimed to be once existent, probably never did), and there are this.
From my experience, dealing with a bot's tail gun is close to dealing with a player's automatic tail gun, and very different from a manual one, so... a bot's TG = 10 skill human TG? I really doubt it.
It's more like "only shoot at a TG'd plane when either you are in the right plane, have the right angle, the target has few HP left, or a mixture of the above".
Don't park your Zero on the six of a Me 265 and expect to be served with personal points, you'll only be served with lead, a broken engine, and often a dead pilot.
As for Shindens... The reason why they are PITA for GAAs are:
1. They can't fly high, so don't expect them to be distracted by high-flying allies.
2. 30mm of Japanese brick throwing, balanced by poor accuracy which isn't a thing when the target is something as big as a GAA.
3. The poor standing of MRs in current meta discourages them to fight almost all LFs and most HFs, so aside from other MRs, they will naturally try to hunt GAAs.(for bombers, check 1)
4. The good agility (is it the most agile MR in its range?) means even a bot may escape your TG with relative ease.
Actually as a GAA pilot I'd be cautious about any MRF. They are usually packed with better firepower, bigger HP pool and those are usually enough to chew you out like a sandwich.
I did serve a Tornado on my aerial refuel position with lead in my 265, but that's mostly because he's one tier below me.
Which, along with other reasons, is why I've expressed worries about GAAs losing playability without a PVE mode.
Basically Japanese Army LFs, all MRFs and all HFs are your hard counter. How is that supposed to be playable?
As for... coming back to the topic of Shinden...
I don't really find any problem of the J7W1 aside from the problem that virtually troubles every MRF, as in, the balance for MRF is wrong to begin with.
WG thinks MR would be somewhere between GAA and fighter, but the reality is it's neither. Its air combat capability barely exceeds the level of self defense and hunting non-aerial combatants, and its ground pounding capability is negligible.
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