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hoom #41 Posted 11 October 2019 - 12:11 PM

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Well I've finished first 20 battles: 5 each in Pe-2 M-82, Tu-10, Su-10 & Ju-288 A.

Overall average 72 ground targets & 65% winrate.

81 ground targets for top 10 Soviet.

A bit surprised at the average score similarity across the 4 planes: 70, 70, 74 & 72

 

Its better than I'd expected so far compared to the nightmare I had doing practice runs.

Actually had a few battles where the Bomber Seeking Missile mode was apparently not active -> I was actually able to do good damage.

 

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no_trace_of_sanity #42 Posted 11 October 2019 - 12:27 PM

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View PostGonerNL, on 11 October 2019 - 04:36 AM, said:

Dive-bombing is specifically mentioned for the Pe-2 thru Tu-10, but after that it's only high altitude ??

 

Effective in destroying ground targets by bombing from a high altitude and in a dive

 

I know you can low-level bomb with it, but I can't remember getting the dive-bomb aiming circle the others get in a steep dive.


Dive angle is flatter than lower tier, but dive bombing is do-able. It's a sweet spot you have to find as far as angle.

 



hoom #43 Posted 11 October 2019 - 10:55 PM

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At 10 battles each, 40 total.

Overall average remains near static at 73, winrate dropped to 60% mainly propped up by Ju-288 A somehow pulling 9 wins out of 10 played.

 

Still not really a clear best: 78, 67, 76 & 70 averages.

 


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wylleEcoyote #44 Posted 12 October 2019 - 02:39 AM

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Having a human escort really helps with the head hunters.

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is on par with my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
 I start on the right track and then sometimes make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 

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hoom #46 Posted 12 October 2019 - 03:11 AM

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You can play to get entered in all 4 categories.

You only get prizes for the highest ranking category.

They delete you from the list of the other categories to make way for other players.

 

IMO its worth playing enough to qualify for all categories, in previous 2 events I'd have got top 20 in at least a couple of categories from my first 10 battles in each category.

On the other hand that time might help to increase your perseverance on the one nation enough to bump up a grade...


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White_Widow18 #47 Posted 12 October 2019 - 04:09 AM

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Out of 5 games, 4 crashed on return to hangar, but I grabbed this screen. Out of those 5 games, this was the second lowest.
This weekend is going to be tons of fun! 

 

Adding The second one that -hasn't- crashed on return to hangar... guessing the server is majorly overloaded:

 


Edited by Stygian_Alchemist, 12 October 2019 - 06:08 AM.


hoom #48 Posted 12 October 2019 - 06:31 AM

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Just reiterating that bomber play is [edited]merciless unrelenting cancer.

 

Near 100% caps just suddenly flips when you were perfectly lined up to enter for a run just as your bombs finish reloading.

So you go to other cap, nope you just got [edited]smashed by 2 Bomber Seeking Heavy Bots simultaneously from 2 very different angles and altitudes hitting the second you crossed into the cap area.

Respawn, lolnope we both [edited]beelined for your spawn the instant you died.

Respawn oh you thought you got a clean run, hope you enjoyed losing 2/3 of your hitpoints to flak despite constantly dodging.

Respawn no, still no, this time all [edited]6 ADA lined up on your fat [edited]and [edited] you.

Respawn, surprise mother [edited]Bomber Seeking Heavies again, PS: its squall line so you're done, enjoy the 2.5 bombruns you managed, you killed 3 AA guns and some tents, also you lost.

 

Edit: Oh and that one time the above doesn't happen? 40 sections because superiority in like 4mins.


Edited by hoom, 12 October 2019 - 08:14 AM.

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SgtSchlautter #49 Posted 12 October 2019 - 09:10 AM

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Hey guys,

 

If u'r struggling with bombers or not super familiar with how ground targets work, be sure to check out my YT page (Prince of Hyrule). I have several videos of bomber gameplay as well as a full guide to dealing with ground targets. 



Captain_Underpants53 #50 Posted 12 October 2019 - 09:19 AM

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View Posthoom, on 12 October 2019 - 01:31 AM, said:

Just reiterating that bomber play is [edited]merciless unrelenting cancer.

 

Near 100% caps just suddenly flips when you were perfectly lined up to enter for a run just as your bombs finish reloading.

So you go to other cap, nope you just got [edited]smashed by 2 Bomber Seeking Heavy Bots simultaneously from 2 very different angles and altitudes hitting the second you crossed into the cap area.

Respawn, lolnope we both [edited]beelined for your spawn the instant you died.

Respawn oh you thought you got a clean run, hope you enjoyed losing 2/3 of your hitpoints to flak despite constantly dodging.

Respawn no, still no, this time all [edited]6 ADA lined up on your fat [edited]and [edited] you.

Respawn, surprise mother [edited]Bomber Seeking Heavies again, PS: its squall line so you're done, enjoy the 2.5 bombruns you managed, you killed 3 AA guns and some tents, also you lost.

 

Edit: Oh and that one time the above doesn't happen? 40 sections because superiority in like 4mins.


LOL, been there.....    :popcorn:


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hoom #51 Posted 12 October 2019 - 01:37 PM

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Well 20 in each of 4 planes and thats about all I'm going to be able to stand.

Total average managed to go down to 69 & winrate stayed at 60%.


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View Posthoom, on 12 October 2019 - 12:31 AM, said:

Just reiterating that bomber play is [edited]merciless unrelenting cancer.

 

:facepalm::D:teethhappy:

Nothing personal.. just.. bombers aren't as simple as people like to claim. In order to stop dying, start getting air to air kills, and maximizing points it takes a lot of odd skills and developed habits. Took my Do-217M out last night and got 3 games in a row at over 100 GT sections with a record of 1 death, 0 deaths, 2 deaths. It's why I offer to people that if I am not busy I'd be glad to help them/work with them on upping their bomber game (This weekend I am super busy. Bombing). Especially given you don't get time to try to line up your bombs a second time at high tiers. The GAA will have capped it if you miss the first run and if you aren't paying attention the heavies will murder you before your bombs even hit the ground.


Edited by Stygian_Alchemist, 12 October 2019 - 04:58 PM.


losttwo #53 Posted 12 October 2019 - 04:54 PM

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I struggled to do 10+ battles.

My bomber game and specs are not stronk enough to carry a match.

Not even strong enough to compete.

That feeling of uselessness and self pity becomes overwhelming after losing match after match.

Went in thinking all I needed to do was just hit ground target after ground target.

That psychology just did not work for me. The need to win is too strong.

 



hoom #54 Posted 12 October 2019 - 08:33 PM

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 Nothing personal.. just.. bombers aren't as simple as people like to claim. In order to stop dying, start getting air to air kills, and maximizing points it takes a lot of odd skills and developed habits.

 Nothing personal.. just.. I [edited]know how to bomb.

I out damage/sortie you, out ground targets/sortie & out aerial targets/sortie in nearly all of the bombers we share, a bunch I nearly [edited]double you so don't pretend you know anything I don't about maximising bombing efficiency :facepalm:

 

The only actual advice I've seen you give is little more than 'fly exclusively RB-17 & the T9/10 German bombers using 15pt crews you spent [edited]-tons of Gold maxing' which isn't particularly [edited]useful :teethhappy:

 

If you can show me how I beat 2 Heavies that are each faster, with vastly more dps and are attacking simultaneously from 2 different directions & altitudes while I have only a 6pt crew and a couple of machine guns, go right ahead or shut the [edited]up :teethhappy:


Edited by hoom, 12 October 2019 - 08:35 PM.

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View Posthoom, on 12 October 2019 - 02:33 PM, said:

 Nothing personal.. just.. I [edited]know how to bomb.

I out damage/sortie you, out ground targets/sortie & out aerial targets/sortie in nearly all of the bombers we share, a bunch I nearly [edited]double you so don't pretend you know anything I don't about maximising bombing efficiency :facepalm:

 

The only actual advice I've seen you give is little more than 'fly exclusively RB-17 & the T9/10 German bombers using 15pt crews you spent [edited]-tons of Gold maxing' which isn't particularly [edited]useful :teethhappy:

 

If you can show me how I beat 2 Heavies that are each faster, with vastly more dps and are attacking simultaneously from 2 different directions & altitudes while I have only a 6pt crew and a couple of machine guns, go right ahead or shut the [edited]up :teethhappy:

Actually, I can.. and I -would- have been quite happy to help and show you. I have my babies, don't get me wrong.. but the Do-217 is running a whole 6 point crew. The A-26B runs a 7 pointer. The B-32 runs a 5-pointer (I robbed its crew for another plane). The Ju-86E, when I did the bomber snapshot post that I never followed up on? If memory serves that was only a 7 or 8 point crew. And no.... it -wasn't- anything personal. It -was- an honest offer.. but you've repeatedly thrown a snit about the offer.. so.... 

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hoom #56 Posted 12 October 2019 - 09:07 PM

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Right so you have no useful advice, gotcha:great:
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White_Widow18 #57 Posted 12 October 2019 - 10:05 PM

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View Posthoom, on 12 October 2019 - 03:07 PM, said:

Right so you have no useful advice, gotcha:great:

Not for someone who doesn't want to listen and is flinging insults. I offered, you averred and acted arrogantly. Then you complained about how hard bombers are and spewed some attempt at being insulting. 

 

Oh.. And my suggestion to you? Talk to someone better at bombers than you and fly with them. Follow them. Watch what they do and try to match it... Which is what I offered. You just seem to think someone offering help is a bad thing. It's an interesting flex.

So.. Like I said. See you in air and good luck.


Edited by Stygian_Alchemist, 12 October 2019 - 10:05 PM.


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RandomPauI #59 Posted 14 October 2019 - 05:59 AM

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Welp, this is the second chevron mission in a row where I completed the wrong missions.

 

Edit: Maybe I can get in 6 german bomber missions done in the next 59 minutes. Sigh.


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hoom #60 Posted 14 October 2019 - 07:43 AM

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Thankfully its over.

 

I used to play Bombers to mellow out from playing normal planes.

Now I have to play some normal planes to mellow out from Bombers.

 

Decided to play the Ju-288 C I'd purchased with the discount.

It was pure cancer just like any others, took 7 battles just to get a first win, finished 20 battles with a massive 30% winrate & my lowest score out of 100 battles but fully elited it and scored slightly better than with the Ju-288 A.

 

And now mellowing out again playing normal planes where you don't get auto-ganked by Bomber Seeking Missile Bots -> can actually meaningfully impact the battle.


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