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hoom #1 Posted 22 September 2019 - 12:58 PM

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I feel a bit looking a gift horse in the teeth about this but how do people cope with the Boomerang?

 

I see from forum search its another oddity that SpiritFoxMy enjoys but not anything about the build..

 

I'm a guy who likes 'happy medium' type planes like the Lavochkins and on the face of it Boomerang should be one of those.

But from my first outings in it its feeling more of an 'unhappy medium', its not quick, doesn't really turn great, firepower & altitude are directly comparable with Spit I and its neither good looking nor even endearingly ugly.

 

I've got 9 other T5 Premiums in my hangar and I really can't see a good reason to fly the Boomerang over any of them.

 

So what to do with it other than leave it a hangar queen?


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Shouldn't that be hoomerang?

 

The Boomerang. As I recall it is a decent aircraft.

Fly a few more battles in it and see if you can get the feel for it.

 

I of course will do the same and see if I can get some video of it.



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Edited by Marraskuu, 09 January 2020 - 10:23 AM.

 
 
Han shot first.

CorvusCorvax #4 Posted 22 September 2019 - 04:52 PM

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I have one, and never, ever play it.  The Spit Ia is better in each and every way.

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Spitfire1 but worse

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I ran into someone flying a Spec'd Boomerang a weekend or so back, and it actually gave me fits.  I don't remember which Me-109 I was flying, but I wasn't able to get on it in the vertical.  That being said, my usual tactic in either 109B or E vs the ADF Boomerangs is to drop flaps, but vs a human pilot I didn't think that would work.  Entirely possible that I used the wrong tactics, but c'mon, a SPEC'd BOOMERANG?????  :amazed:

hoom #7 Posted 23 September 2019 - 04:05 AM

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Yeah the ADA Boomerangs have nerfed turn over 10s if I recall so going slow & trying to turn with a player Boomerang in a 109 will get you killed.

 

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 Spitfire1 but worse

 Indeed.

 

SpiritFoxMy is apparently on a temp Forum ban but sent me this:

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Build: Gunsight, Lightweight Wing Frame and Lightweight Power Unit. For your second piece of airframe equipment, I'd suggest either Polish or Reinforced Skin.

 

The trouble with the Boomerang is that its really really slow so honestly improving speed isn't going to do much for you (a Zero can chase you down for instance). Your real advantages are being in a really REALLY fat Zero. Your turn time is misleading - the Boomerang has ridiculous rudder (yaw) so you must abuse that to the maximum, along with your increased rate of roll in a close in brawl against Spitfires and Zeros. You cannot outrun them so you must outlast and basically outfly them using your superior roll, yaw and firepower to put them down quickly before their superior low speed handling gets you.

 

In this vein, taking Polish allows you more tactical options as you can use your superior dive to put some space between you and Zero and force him into a high(er) speed fight. On the other hand, just being a tough little [edited]with Reinforced Airframe means you can hope to outlast them and aim for that crippling shot to give you the advantage.

 

 


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losttwo #8 Posted 23 September 2019 - 08:57 AM

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wylleEcoyote #9 Posted 23 September 2019 - 09:59 AM

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Edited by wylleEcoyote, 23 September 2019 - 09:59 AM.

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is on par with my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
 I start on the right track and then sometimes make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 

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the boomerang guns are not placed as stupidly as the spit 1 and it turns better than spit 1 at the cost of overall engine performance. i thing the spit 1a turn better than it, with or without the pilot while stile having slightly better engine performance.

 

i personally think playing low tier turn fighters are boring and painful to play. you give up almost all of you ability to control the map to turn gud. :child:

 

i will probably specialize my boomerang but am in no hurry to do so. its just so slow.



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 the boomerang guns are not placed as stupidly as the spit 1 and it turns better than spit 1 at the cost of overall engine performance.

 Not much less stupidly, is more compact though.

 

Spit I stock has 8.7s turn, 8.6 with airframe upgrade which is same as Spit Ia, 9.2s for Boomerang.

Maybe as SpiritFoxMy suggests the effective turn is better when you bring in the Yaw/Controlability? But its not an officially visible/comparable stat.


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I rock in the specialized  Boomerang.

 

Nach

 


Edited by Nachthexen_Tribute, 24 September 2019 - 02:41 AM.

I use Nach instead of Nacht on purpose. And I pronounce it with the English "ch", like catch.

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I just picked one up tonight from a crate.  Seems pretty good, already picked up an Ace in it.  it reminds me a lot of a zero but it's not quite as twisty.  People seem to be under-estimating it a lot though.  Maybe they think that it's going to turn like an ADA Boomerang.

 

EDIT: 3 aces in the first 15 games and specialized.  People just ignore it.  I'm finding a lot of success dropping flaps in a turn fight with spitfires and zeroes.  The nose comes around /now/ and gets the guns on target to melt things.


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crzyhawk #14 Posted 27 December 2019 - 01:00 PM

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I just played this thing in a quick game before work.  I got stuck low and slow vs a specialized Zero.  I took it into a vertical turnfight and using boost while climbing, then flaps once I started to go over the top, was able to pull enough lead for some quick snapshots.  It took a few times, but eventually I was able to shoot him down.  The Boomerang is a very good plane that seems to get underestimated a lot.  It bleeds energy quickly, and you can use that to make some very nasty vertical turns.

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Venom vs Boomer?        (Tarantula vs Scorpion?)

 

Boomerang has 4x .303 Brownings and Mk.II 2x 20 mm Hispano-Suiza     9.20 seconds turn.   

 

Venom has 8x .303 Browning Mk.II.    8.30 seconds turn.   

 

top speed both 500 kph, but Boomer has 290 optimal and Venom is 250 optimal.     

 

(that's odd, that's around half of the top speed?      do other top/optimal speeds vary that much?)

 

most of the other stats are comparable except climb is 81 m/s for Venom, 101 for Boomer

 

get out your sliderules and get to work

 

 


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Boomerang. I hate the Venom. Shorter ranged firepower and lower altitude. It's an OK plane but not something I'd willingly fly

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crzyhawk #17 Posted 09 January 2020 - 03:18 AM

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I also prefer the Boomerang to the Venom.  Boomerang seems to bleed energy better, so you can get it to do some funky things that people don't expect.  Usually dumping energy is bad, but in a turn fight, it can change things.  it's also got the 20mm to chunk something pretty good with brief windows of opportunity.  The Venom just feels like a sled.

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View Posttrikke, on 08 January 2020 - 05:07 PM, said:

Venom vs Boomer?        (Tarantula vs Scorpion?)

 

Boomerang has 4x .303 Brownings and Mk.II 2x 20 mm Hispano-Suiza     9.20 seconds turn.   

 

Venom has 8x .303 Browning Mk.II.    8.30 seconds turn.   

 

top speed both 500 kph, but Boomer has 290 optimal and Venom is 250 optimal.     

 

(that's odd, that's around half of the top speed?      do other top/optimal speeds vary that much?)

 

most of the other stats are comparable except climb is 81 m/s for Venom, 101 for Boomer

 

get out your sliderules and get to work

 

 

I have both.. I don't think I've flown either one very much for various reasons.. mostly that I have better T5 premiums at this point. I used to enjoy the Venom though for those times when I wanted to just mindlessly go to an airfield and turn/burn everything in sight without any thought. Throw some of my stockpile of incendiary rounds on it with sights also rolled for firestarting and kinda go set it on fire and forget it with all those MGs. Wonder how Rudolph would do in that plane with the damage increase from him.



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I sold the Venom.

I got it free from a code I think.

 

Using the garage slot for a good plane is more useful than that PoS just sitting in my hangar un-used.

 

Its too slow, not enough firepower oomph to make up for it & limited response to Equipment.

Spitfire Ia has same guns & turn but much better speed (& altitude?), also Venom is even uglier than Boomerang.

Boomerang for all its mediocrity at least has the 20mms.


Edited by hoom, 09 January 2020 - 05:57 AM.

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I use my venom as a pilot trainer mostly.  I don't fly it often.

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