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trikke #1 Posted 14 September 2019 - 07:17 PM

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When did we last see it as an event?      Was it too flawed, or was it something else?

It certainly seemed fine to me...     did we make too much money?

even I was raking it in, by the truckloads, so I guess they're tweaking it     

 

the elites probably broke the bank.    we can't have anything nice


Seems like a lotta work for just a couple of events, months ago.       BF, any future BEM plans?


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honorabili #2 Posted 14 September 2019 - 07:31 PM

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I started liking it myself

Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #3 Posted 14 September 2019 - 07:39 PM

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I miss 1.4

 


if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


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View Posttrikke, on 14 September 2019 - 07:17 PM, said:

When did we last see it as an event?      Was it too flawed, or was it something else?

It certainly seemed fine to me...     did we make too much money?

even I was raking it in, by the truckloads, so I guess they're tweaking it     

 

the elites probably broke the bank.    we can't have anything nice


Seems like a lotta work for just a couple of events, months ago.       BF, any future BEM plans?


On premium planes, if you have the right plane and get away with a very high number of kills, the earnings credits wise can be ludicrous, especially if you have premium time burning.

I doubt WG is going to do anything severe to try to combat this, as it is a little more of a "runaway train" side effect of the mode. Bomber escort is however the absolute best of the three "special" (I am sure this is just their code-word for "beta") game modes. The other being attrition (which - with proper re-calibrating of bot behavior for that mode, could be a very good second main-stream mode for WoWP, yet WG has yet to decide to make that a thing despite it being around for what... 2 years now?).

 

I'd love to see pop-up events show up involving weekend bomber-escort mode becoming available to those who would like to run it, rather than forcing everyone tier 4 and up to play it. (Newbies dont need to be thrown under the bus like that...)

I agree with Trikke here, but they do need to iron out some kinks in it so that it is not pre-weighted to either side overwhelmingly. (In october 2018 it heavily favored defenders, whereas in spring 2019 it often favored attackers.)

 



wylleEcoyote #5 Posted 14 September 2019 - 07:59 PM

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I also miss sliding a bomber into the middle of a large formation and racking up the otherwise difficult to obtain defensive fire kills needed to specialize a german bomber.

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Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
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trikke #6 Posted 14 September 2019 - 08:00 PM

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I found this.    Surely we've had BEM since March?
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View PostNovaTempest, on 14 September 2019 - 07:46 PM, said:


On premium planes, if you have the right plane and get away with a very high number of kills, the earnings credits wise can be ludicrous, especially if you have premium time burning.


 


ISTR using one of my planes to get near 40k PP, with some stupid number of kills.  The silver haul was somewhere near 500k.


Edited by CorvusCorvax, 15 September 2019 - 03:57 AM.


Wombatmetal #8 Posted 14 September 2019 - 09:46 PM

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Ah yes, old memories.

 

I remember one game where two of the top players on the server were in a flight, one in a bomber and one in a fighter. And they headhunted me all game. Any time I spawned their #1 priority was to shoot me down, and the fighter would fly across the map to do so. I know this is the case as they posted a video of it. 

 

The mode is easily exploited. Had fun with it though. A few fixes and it would be fine. 

 



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I miss attrition

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View PostStygian_Alchemist, on 14 September 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:

I miss attrition


:great: #metoo



qu33kKC #11 Posted 15 September 2019 - 12:48 PM

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I token'd past the Ace requirement for the Vampire yesterday.  If there was a Bomber Escort event upcoming, I would have saved those tokens.    (half of my Aces have come in this mode.)   As a Heavy Fighter main, I REALLY Like Bomber Escort mode.

trikke #12 Posted 15 September 2019 - 05:14 PM

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maybe it was too server-intensive?     that was truly a metric crap-ton of flying/exploding pixels involved


It just seems... unusual to shelf such a crowd-pleasing suitcase full of coding, that's all


I'm going with 'we all made too much silver and XP' until BF comes back with some plausible explanations


Tweak the income and run BEM once a month, please?      but Attrition... ehh

 


edit: we fly BEM weekly during the Saturday Nite Live training rooms, so...


ask your doctor if BEM is right for you


Edited by trikke, 15 September 2019 - 05:19 PM.

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wylleEcoyote #13 Posted 15 September 2019 - 06:34 PM

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View Posttrikke, on 15 September 2019 - 12:14 PM, said:

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It just seems... unusual to shelf such a crowd-pleasing suitcase full of coding, that's all

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you need to ditch those rose colored glasses you dirty hippie. :P
 

I seem to recall a a lot of bad :angry: noise being thrown around the forums when this event is on.

For every post that said "Woohoo :great: this is great"  or  "i am making soo much :coin: credits xp :medal: etc".

you got a plethora of hate.

I cant win / i love attrition mode and this is the opposite of that so I HATE it / :angry:
bombers suck because my low altitude turn fighter cant kill them :(
the map is so big it takes forever to cross it 
whats the point of being in a Ground Attacker anyway? the AAA is either too strong or inconsequential. and every building is an armored fortress even the guns dont get destroyed by one bomb ... :facepalm:

blah blah yada yada 

ANd then the folks that LIKE the mode are still [edited]about 

Its too unbalanced for offense/defense  the bombers are too tough or too fragile  nothing i can do changes whether we win/loose. depending on what side i am on.
the headhunting is [edited].  :hiding:
Why is it if i am in a Heavy or MR carrying bombs that i still get placed on defense? :sceptic:
Why am i placed on offense when i am running slick?


Edited by wylleEcoyote, 15 September 2019 - 06:39 PM.

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is much like my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.

Specialist Planes I have from : USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:  XP-31, Model 81A-1, P-40, P-51A, P-39N-1, XF15C, DH.100 F1, Fw 56, He 112, Bf 109 B / E / E-3, Me209v4, Me209 A, I-17
Multi-Roles: F11C-2, F4F, P-47B, Fw 190 A-1 / A-5 / D, I- 5 / 15 / 16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: P-38 F/J,  XP-58, Tu-1, Bf 110 C-6, SE 100, Me 410, Do 335 A-1, Me 262

Attack Aircraft: Hs 123, Ha 137, Hs 129 A, Ju 87 G, Me 265, Me 1099 B-2
Bombers: Do 17 Z, He 111 H2, Pe-2, Do 217 M
 Japan: not even once.


trikke #14 Posted 18 September 2019 - 02:35 AM

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makes sense.        I flew nothing but heavies with huge guns.      

I do remember hearing some complaining, but I was having so much fun.     

I hope there will be a mode that fits everyone someday

feeling a little selfish now saying it...   but please bring back BEM!

 


 


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InfiniZ3ro #15 Posted 18 September 2019 - 11:23 AM

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There was a lot of complaining about BEM but I loved it.  I didn't even really have big guns the last time it ran and still put up my biggest numbers in that mode.  win or lose, it's a fun mode.  I think most of my aces came from BEM.  Bring back all different modes.

View Posttrikke, on 15 September 2019 - 01:14 PM, said:

ask your doctor if BEM is right for you

lol.  +1

 

Do not play BEM if you are alergic to it

Side effects may include....

Heaping piles of credits

Inability to stop complaining about it on the forums

Rage quits

and occasionally, death


Edited by InfiniZ3ro, 18 September 2019 - 11:48 AM.


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I still want a CTF style match. Put a golden ring over each team's spawn points with a "flag" in it, fill the map between with hostile to both teams nodes/flak that can be bombed/destroyed but slowly respawns and is never capturable. This includes some neutral mid-field planes. Whichever team manages to bring back three flags from their opponent's base to their own, wins. Flag carriers can -either- be bot only or carrying the flag should lower speed by say.. 10%? 

In order to stop the enemy team carrying your flag, you have to shoot down the plane carrying it and fly through the flag/within a certain distance to "return" it to your spawn area. Whereas, if you don't.. an enemy can fly through the flag and keep running with it.

Group/Wave respawn rules as well.




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