

Need real planes added F-4 Phantom Migs from Korean war
#1 Posted 10 September 2019 - 12:42 AM
#2 Posted 10 September 2019 - 02:03 AM
The game is set up so the top tier planes are around the Korean War era. Many of the "fake" German planes you talk of were the prototypes or inspiration for many planes that came after, including the F-86. WG has really shied away from adding missiles to the game which would complicate things quite a bit for planes below the missile carrier's tier. Besides, several versions of the F4 did not have a gun and relied on unreliable early missile technology. Do you really want to fly a superfast plane that cannot turn and doesn't have a gun for when you run out of missiles?.
As to your Mig numbers... the 15 is in the game. The 17 and 21 were of the same era as the F-4 and the 25 is even more recent than them. Oh, and the Mig-22 is just as non-existent as the fictional Mig-28.
WG has been trying to keep their plane lines even with each other and I kind of like this approach. Adding a few really high planes would make things really uneven in high tiers. If you want more planes, go play that other game that has more recent planes, stinky graphics, and difficult controls.
#3 Posted 10 September 2019 - 07:29 AM
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It's their game, they will design it the way they want. If you do not like it, then do not spend any money on it.
#4 Posted 10 September 2019 - 11:47 AM
The F4 Phantom is just way too modern for this game, really at least two generations of aircraft beyond the best currently in game.
Now the FH-1 Phantom, that might make a decent addition to the game but, nope, not the F4.
"Don't mess with me because I can squish you like a bug, that is If I should decide to notice your existence in the first place".
Yes, it's haughty and its arrogant but you're a battleship with 16 inch guns and Britannia Rules the Waves. Maybe a bit of arrogance in this case is appropriate.
#5 Posted 10 September 2019 - 05:57 PM
I've always thought that the 2 HGII and HGIII were bovine fecal matter "X Fighters".
I have em' but don't fly them.
I shall use my aircraft and my skill to slightly inconvenience mine enemies.


#6 Posted 10 September 2019 - 08:56 PM
SkyWolf__WM, on 10 September 2019 - 09:57 AM, said:
I've always thought that the 2 HGII and HGIII were bovine fecal matter "X Fighters".
I have em' but don't fly them.
Well they built a prototype of the HG2 which was destroyed on the runway. They were working on the HG3 when the war ended and the British took a look at it, in the end building their own designs from it.
#7 Posted 10 September 2019 - 09:11 PM
SkyWolf__WM, on 10 September 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:
I've always thought that the 2 HGII and HGIII were bovine fecal matter "X Fighters".
I have em' but don't fly them.
Next to the XF-90, I think they are just about the best bomber killers in the game. (don't ask how I know)
#8 Posted 10 September 2019 - 10:56 PM
#9 Posted 10 September 2019 - 11:34 PM
RRWARRIOR_60, on 10 September 2019 - 05:56 PM, said:
I don't know where to start so I will just say 'BAAAAAH'.
#10 Posted 10 September 2019 - 11:51 PM
RRWARRIOR_60, on 10 September 2019 - 05:56 PM, said:
The X-85 is a great little aircraft. Mine is specialized. You need to calm TF down and stop playing the uneducated IDIOT....
I shall use my aircraft and my skill to slightly inconvenience mine enemies.


#12 Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:18 PM
RRWARRIOR_60, on 10 September 2019 - 05:56 PM, said:
The very latest aircraft in this game made its FIRST flight in 1949/1950.
The Phantom II made its first flight in 1959, placing it 10 years outside the time frame of aircraft in this game.
You may want the Phantom II to be added, but it probably won't be, and neither are any of the Vietnam era aircraft likely to be added.
Here's some suggestions for you.
Learn how to deal constructively with opinions different from your own.
Learn to construct and punctuate a sentence.
Learn to spell.
Maybe then people will take you seriously and not make fun of your rants.
Edited by Moonrider, 11 September 2019 - 03:19 PM.
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#13 Posted 11 September 2019 - 04:41 PM
RRWARRIOR_60, on 10 September 2019 - 04:56 PM, said:
I'm confused. Is this the WOWP forum or Yahoo! Answers?
#14 Posted 11 September 2019 - 05:04 PM
I don't think he's playing, brother.
#15 Posted 11 September 2019 - 09:46 PM
#16 Posted 11 September 2019 - 09:59 PM
RRWARRIOR_60, on 11 September 2019 - 04:46 PM, said:
You went on an unhinged rant and apparently you expect us to read the incoherent nonsense and glean some sort of truth from it? And it's "oh no" you 60 watt bulb in a 100 watt socket. So run back to your copy of "Internet Arguing for Dummies" and try again. You got beat up a lot when you were a kid huh? So FOAD yourself and DILLIGAF?
I shall use my aircraft and my skill to slightly inconvenience mine enemies.


#17 Posted 12 September 2019 - 01:26 AM
RRWARRIOR_60, on 11 September 2019 - 04:46 PM, said:
#18 Posted 12 September 2019 - 05:37 PM
Another fun fact, WWII Germany can also be credited with initial proof-of-concept developments of SAMs.
Anayway, these air-to-air missiles would not be one hit kills, and would be limited to 1 launched at a time. They would deal a sizeable amount of damage, but again, not instant kill from full health.
The main problem with extending into the vietnam era - aside just the technology level issues - is that less than 25% of all the lines in the game would be able to extend to these tiers, bottle-necking options.
I'm not one to be toxic, but blurting out something that has been discussed in detail repeatedly without reading it first can lead some poster's opinions to be recieved like this one's has. Besides all the posts made by the OP after the first...
Edited by NovaTempest, 12 September 2019 - 05:44 PM.
#19 Posted 12 September 2019 - 08:00 PM
RRWARRIOR_60, on 10 September 2019 - 02:56 PM, said:
Ok first off.
ALLLLL of the first marks of the F4 did not carry guns of any kind. This would be the case until well into the Vietnam War which is about a decade past the time Frame of this game. If you want to put an F4 into this game in a form that has any relation to it's time frame you'll be flying around in a plane with your only weapons being foul language and bodily odor.
In addition, you really should get a grip on the idea that the F4 is a 2nd generation supersonic aircraft. It's top speed of around 2,400 kph which is about 3 times the speed of the fastest and most advanced aircraft in the game. If she were to be included in the game, she'd be about a Tier 13 aircraft and, if you're paying attention, this game maxes out at Tier 10.
The F4 is too modern and TOO ADVANCED to fit into this game.
Jeez ...
"Don't mess with me because I can squish you like a bug, that is If I should decide to notice your existence in the first place".
Yes, it's haughty and its arrogant but you're a battleship with 16 inch guns and Britannia Rules the Waves. Maybe a bit of arrogance in this case is appropriate.
#20 Posted 13 September 2019 - 02:29 AM
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