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Captain_Underpants53 #21 Posted 08 September 2019 - 01:42 AM

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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 07 September 2019 - 07:10 PM, said:

If you are using a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro this is the first warning sign of imminent failure.

 

View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 07 September 2019 - 08:42 PM, said:

I get about 6 months on average with one.  But I fly a lot.


What I have learn with the Logitech 3D Pro is that the rubber "dust cover" at the base of the stick rubs off rubber particles that gunk up the pots in the base.  When I bought be a new one I removed the rubber off and pulled the pots out and removed some of the grease on it which can also cause it to not fully rotate the pots on its axis.



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View PostDrSinister, on 07 September 2019 - 07:54 PM, said:

 


What I have learn with the Logitech 3D Pro is that the rubber "dust cover" at the base of the stick rubs off rubber particles that gunk up the pots in the base.  When I bought be a new one I removed the rubber off and pulled the pots out and removed some of the grease on it which can also cause it to not fully rotate the pots on its axis.

 

In my past, it's been the buttons that crap out one after the other.  I can compensate for one or two.  Once it gets past three, I just cannot deal with it anymore.  Would love to go back to joystick play, but too cheap.  Really bad if it is the buttons on the handle rather than on the base.  Once two of the handle buttons go, I start to get really upset.  


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View PostFour_Leaf_Tayback, on 07 September 2019 - 08:12 PM, said:

...buttons on the handle... ...Once two of the handle buttons go, I start to get really upset...

I'm sorry, did you mean: Handel's Buttons?

https://www.cpr.org/2015/02/19/george-frideric-handel-and-his-life-saving-coat-button/

jonnymule74 #25 Posted 08 September 2019 - 10:08 PM

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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 07 September 2019 - 08:40 PM, said:


If you are using a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro this is the first warning sign of imminent failure.

My 3D pro is doing this, rudder sticks to one side. Unplugging it and plugging it back in fixes it. Even works in game.

 

Thanks for the heads up, Cap. Looks like I'm in the market for a new one soon.


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Having flown my P.1101 for a bit, I cannot detect any kind of nerfing.  The thing still owns the skies at T10, as far as I can tell..

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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 08 September 2019 - 04:22 PM, said:

Having flown my P.1101 for a bit, I cannot detect any kind of nerfing.  The thing still owns the skies at T10, as far as I can tell..

 

Thank. You. Sir.

 

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OP WAS IN EXAM STUDY MODE FOR THREE WEEKS.

OP has forgotten that when you step away from flying a plane for a bit your skills get a bit sloppy.

Sometimes it takes a battle or three to "get the guns dialed in"

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wow last time I flew the 1101 did good, I have been away for like 2 weeks with a black screen problem when game started. tonight was the first time back on since then not sure if all the up dates did it ot some thing wowp sent me to try was the fix, and way I will fly it again when it get back on from the updates, I hope they did not mess with it,

 



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after a long absence 2 weeks I just flew my 1101 and I was fine. 

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View PostThroffy, on 07 September 2019 - 03:31 PM, said:

Nice job WG.

 

I go away for 3 weeks to study hard for exams, and when I come back to play my favorite plane, it's now a total POS that turns like it did when it was stock.  Did you really think no one would notice?  All the time and effort put into that plane, trying heaps of different configs until I found the perfect blend to make it competitive and survivable, all for naught.

Great way to lose your player base ... it really must take some sort of effort, in research and board meetings, to do it so efficiently.

 

And for the typical trio of trolls who'll post here in less than 40mins saying "I don't see any difference, works fine for me ... blah blah blah", my 1101 has a 14 point pilot, 6 white kill marks and 3 yellow, so I know my plane well, and I know when it's been molested by coders.

 

The last patch was on July 11 and there were no changes in the balance. I guess the above comments shed some light on the matter, it's most likely you just feel like it's a little bit different because of taking a little break from the game. Checking your equipment, pilot and status of a plane (you might've changed the plane's configuration of your plane to stock — it really happens!) and playing a couple of games to get used to controls and the game itself can really help. :)



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View PostblindfoId, on 09 September 2019 - 05:34 AM, said:

 

The last patch was on July 11 and there were no changes in the balance. I guess the above comments shed some light on the matter, it's most likely you just feel like it's a little bit different because of taking a little break from the game. Checking your equipment, pilot and status of a plane (you might've changed the plane's configuration of your plane to stock — it really happens!) and playing a couple of games to get used to controls and the game itself can really help. :)

ouch...

that was a sugar coated, BlindCold burn

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if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


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View PostFour_Leaf_Tayback, on 08 September 2019 - 01:10 AM, said:

 

For me, with that joystick, the first warning sign of imminent failure was hitting the "purchase" button.  

 

I have an old busted one sitting on my desktop so I can yell at it when I lose with mouse+keyboard.   

 I had one bust just out of warranty.  Everything worked except the forward castle switch, so I couldn't look forward. 

Bought another with the 2 year warrant and kept the dead one for parts.



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View PostblindfoId, on 09 September 2019 - 10:34 AM, said:

 

The last patch was on July 11 and there were no changes in the balance. I guess the above comments shed some light on the matter, it's most likely you just feel like it's a little bit different because of taking a little break from the game. Checking your equipment, pilot and status of a plane (you might've changed the plane's configuration of your plane to stock — it really happens!) and playing a couple of games to get used to controls and the game itself can really help. :)

 

I stand corrected.  Sorry the for rant Blindfold and chat. 

I've come back to WP and I suck :amazed:, so be gentle and show me some love and compassion *heh*. 

It's been a hard slog since April with exams every 2-3 weeks, and pretty much burnt out to say the least.  Just can't believe how rusty I've gotten so quickly through lack of game time ... cripes!

 

View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 08 September 2019 - 01:42 AM, said:

I get about 6 months on average with one.  But I fly a lot.

 

Let me know next time it's just about worn out.  I might stand a chance against ya then   Nothing worst then a sloppy stick.:kamikaze:



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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 07 September 2019 - 09:42 PM, said:

But I fly a lot.


Yes you do


You really really do      ;)


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View PostThroffy, on 10 September 2019 - 11:41 AM, said:

 

I stand corrected.  Sorry the for rant Blindfold and chat. 

I've come back to WP and I suck :amazed:, so be gentle and show me some love and compassion *heh*. 

It's been a hard slog since April with exams every 2-3 weeks, and pretty much burnt out to say the least.  Just can't believe how rusty I've gotten so quickly through lack of game time ... cripes!

 

 

Let me know next time it's just about worn out.  I might stand a chance against ya then   Nothing worst then a sloppy stick.:kamikaze:

 

Ladies and gentleman we have saved this man from the sea of rage and ranting with our handy life-preserver of LOGIC and NEWSFLASHES!

On a more serious note though I have only poked the P.1101 once and... well... i feel like I faceplanted on it. I get on the XF-90 and put on a whallop.
(I actually handed a specialized P.1101 pilot his tail rather hard last week in my XF-90, doubled down on his score... Yikes...)

I do need an excuse to fly the P.1101 more, but I have a junkyard pile of other planes I am juggling, gearing, or in 2 cases re-gearing because i found a better build for them.

As for the OP, If I see you on red team I will try to be relatively nice. Just make sure you can commit if you wanna try anything. :playing:

 


Edited by NovaTempest, 13 September 2019 - 04:23 PM.


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View PostNovaTempest, on 13 September 2019 - 04:19 PM, said:

 

Ladies and gentleman we have saved this man from the sea of rage and ranting with our handy life-preserver of LOGIC and NEWSFLASHES!

On a more serious note though I have only poked the P.1101 once and... well... i feel like I faceplanted on it. I get on the XF-90 and put on a whallop.
(I actually handed a specialized P.1101 pilot his tail rather hard last week in my XF-90, doubled down on his score... Yikes...)

I do need an excuse to fly the P.1101 more, but I have a junkyard pile of other planes I am juggling, gearing, or in 2 cases re-gearing because i found a better build for them.

As for the OP, If I see you on red team I will try to be relatively nice. Just make sure you can commit if you wanna try anything. :playing:

 


I get it.  As a sometimes-P.1101 pilot, I have some severe overconfidence when it comes to T10.  That plane is just SO good, and you can kill EVERYTHING.  BUT...

 

As a HF pilot first and foremost, I understand why you were able to dominate.  The XF-90 is FAST.  Not just fast, but FAST!

 

And it hits like Mike Tyson on meth.  Sure, it takes the whole map to turn around, but you have that luxury.  Hit hard, go up high, turn, hit hard again.  Lather, rinse, repeat.  In order to beat a good HF pilot with the P.1101, you have to be VERY quick, and smart.. 



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 13 September 2019 - 04:54 PM, said:


I get it.  As a sometimes-P.1101 pilot, I have some severe overconfidence when it comes to T10.  That plane is just SO good, and you can kill EVERYTHING.  BUT...

 

As a HF pilot first and foremost, I understand why you were able to dominate.  The XF-90 is FAST.  Not just fast, but FAST!

 

And it hits like Mike Tyson on meth.  Sure, it takes the whole map to turn around, but you have that luxury.  Hit hard, go up high, turn, hit hard again.  Lather, rinse, repeat.  In order to beat a good HF pilot with the P.1101, you have to be VERY quick, and smart.. 


(To be fair I also have a heck of a build on the XF-90, it is ultra sweaty with a 15.1 second turn time and gas operated action to boot... I began to feel sorry for the guy and focused almost entirely on just massacring his bots.)

 

To boot I loved the P.1092 and did quite well in it... the more I think about it the more i feel sorry for my P.1101. I need to get the dust off it soon. :(


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The XF-90 is, on paper, the worst of the three T10 heavy fighters. And, to be honest.... I watch more people faceplant suck trying to fly that plane than anything but MRFs. Those who master it though? Corvus is right, including the mike tyson on meth part... because it definitely doesn't hit at an -effectual- heavyweight level but it just keeps punching you so often and fast you go down anyway and then it zoidbergs away from any retaliation. Its  turn is definitely measured in zip codes though.. and there isn't really any improving that because of how low it starts to begin. You can make it serviceable enough to keep it on a target long enough to one pass.. but that's about the best she'll realistically give you. LOL.

Personally, I've been experimenting with my Javelin lately because from a -paper- perspective.. it may be the -best- T10 air to air platform and HF or at least the most purist of the three toward just being a -heavy- -fighter- in that category. If I can ever master the fire rate, ammo velocity, etc. of the !*&# guns and master the energy retention theories of flying it... I actually think the Javelin is possibly the most dangerous plane in the game at T10. Those -massive- shells are creepily accurate for their size at an -insane- range.. pound for pound it punches harder than the other two at normal fight distances by an order of magnitude.. because it's got the range to still be punching at distance where the HGIII doesn't and it actually hits at least 20-30% harder than the XF-90 just flat out. It can hit 745mph just like the other two heavies, but it has the best overall maneuver capacity, energy -retention- -IS- finnicky though. Those HP though... jeeeeeez... that thing is hard to crit, set on fire, or kill flat out because it's resistance to being hurt in ways I wish my freaking bomber was. It's effective altitude vs. the other high alt. stuff puts it at more than good enough and its climb rate is enough to stand it on its tail at pretty well whatever speed you were when you started and maintain that or even accelerate under boost through most or all of your yellow altitude band. I make a similar argument that the Swift is actually the better plane vs. the P1101.. and I'd argue the Swift may actually be the second most capable T10 overall that's an air to air platform. Again.. once you master its energy retention, weird turning needs, and those freaking ADENs... which are factually -worse- on the Swift than they are on the Hunter or the Javelin and its not just because you're down two barrels. The heat cycle is -significantly- shorter. This is all keeping in mind that I have hated my Brit planes for a very long time for so.. so many reasons.. not least of which is at T10 the ADEN gun platform utterly defeated me... I've owned all three since like.. Christmas and they've just sat there until recently.. gathering dust.. doing nothing. Now two of them are specialist (swift and javelin) and being geared.. because staring at the stats and facing them in bot hands has convinced me they have some of the best return at T10. We'll see how the experiment unfolds and I don't expect many to agree with my little theory either.. but I wanted to throw it out for food for thought/productive conversation (If you disagree, cool, but I'd like to know exactly -why-. My reservations still revolve around the ADENs and I'll admit even in this theory I have some reservations that it's -just- theory)

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