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BB3_Oregon_Steel #21 Posted 31 August 2019 - 11:00 PM

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View Postcobra_marksman, on 30 August 2019 - 07:54 PM, said:

Well the question was 2 vs 1, that being said...leaving the battle hurts nobody,:hiding: those 2 players will still be rolling bases and battling the bots. :playing:

Unless they made changes on the last update, you will be awarded any points and credit you earned before leaving, ( minus a 1000 points ) for not finishing the round.:great:

2 vs1, puts the odds in their favor, and honestly....your wasting good playing time, where in the end.....your going to still be given a loss.:facepalm:

Theirs really nothing wrong with leaving an unbalanced battle, unless you enjoy playing against the odds.:ohmy:

Everyone here is given a choice when Wowp puts together 2 teams in a battle," Stay & Dogfight "or just " Cut & Run to Fight another Day ".:coin:

Ps. You do know.... if your plane is destroyed... " after the squall line " you can go back to the hanger, with no penalty....:medal:

 

Sooooo ... what you are saying is that you gain nothing by leaving early except for perhaps preserving a bruised ego brought on by the fact that you are going to probably lose the battle. 

 

And I might be wrong, but I don't think you were advocating going back to the hangar after the arrival of the squall line, I think you were just putting forth the whole "go back to hanger" button as some sort of "solution" to being in a disadvantageous situation. 

 

I'm not going to get in to the "yes it's alright/no it's not" argument at the moment, I'm just trying to see any set of circumstances where you, the player, actually come out ahead by leaving the battle early.  You are going to gain fewer personal points and fewer personal points translates into less silver and less experience period, end of statement.  Your experience takes a hit, your bank takes a hit and for those of you who value stats, those will take a hit as well, guaranteed.   The only thing that seems that it might be an advantage is comforting a bruised ego or maybe prevent and onset of frustration or sense of displeasure.  Those things might be valuable but they are advantages that don't directly translate in game terms. 

 

If you can show me how you can squeeze more of those things out of the battle by leaving it early, please point them out. 

 

For me, I ran into my own 2 vs 1 moment last night.  I ended up facing two specialist Corsairs in my nonspecialist FW-190A and these two obviously decided that it would be better if I weren't clogging up their airspace.  I think they shot me down 3 times and I didn't end up shooting anything down but I kept them busy enough trying to kill me instead of fighting for Caps that my team managed a 1 point victory. 

 

By your logic, I could have and maybe should have hit the Back to Hangar button as a "solution" in which case I would have accepted the inevitable loss, which, as it turned out, wasn't quite so inevitable.  As long as you're in the air, there's something positive you can do so bailing doesn't seem to be a "game" solution to much of anything. 


Edited by BB3_Oregon_Steel, 31 August 2019 - 11:08 PM.

"Don't mess with me because I can squish you like a bug, that is If I should decide to notice your existence in the first place".  

 

Yes, it's haughty and its arrogant but you're a battleship with 16 inch guns and Britannia Rules the Waves.  Maybe a bit of arrogance in this case is appropriate.  


Wombatmetal #22 Posted 01 September 2019 - 04:17 AM

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I am so sick of MM. I just got out of a game, with a T6 flight on the other side, and we don't have a flight or a T6 player. @Blindfold I am tired of WG fixng the outcome of the battles. This need to get changed

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cobra_marksman #23 Posted 01 September 2019 - 02:19 PM

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View PostBB3_Oregon_Steel, on 31 August 2019 - 06:00 PM, said:

 

Sooooo ... what you are saying is that you gain nothing by leaving early except for perhaps preserving a bruised ego brought on by the fact that you are going to probably lose the battle. 

 

And I might be wrong, but I don't think you were advocating going back to the hangar after the arrival of the squall line, I think you were just putting forth the whole "go back to hanger" button as some sort of "solution" to being in a disadvantageous situation. 

 

I'm not going to get in to the "yes it's alright/no it's not" argument at the moment, I'm just trying to see any set of circumstances where you, the player, actually come out ahead by leaving the battle early.  You are going to gain fewer personal points and fewer personal points translates into less silver and less experience period, end of statement.  Your experience takes a hit, your bank takes a hit and for those of you who value stats, those will take a hit as well, guaranteed.   The only thing that seems that it might be an advantage is comforting a bruised ego or maybe prevent and onset of frustration or sense of displeasure.  Those things might be valuable but they are advantages that don't directly translate in game terms. 

 

If you can show me how you can squeeze more of those things out of the battle by leaving it early, please point them out. 

 

For me, I ran into my own 2 vs 1 moment last night.  I ended up facing two specialist Corsairs in my nonspecialist FW-190A and these two obviously decided that it would be better if I weren't clogging up their airspace.  I think they shot me down 3 times and I didn't end up shooting anything down but I kept them busy enough trying to kill me instead of fighting for Caps that my team managed a 1 point victory. 

 

By your logic, I could have and maybe should have hit the Back to Hangar button as a "solution" in which case I would have accepted the inevitable loss, which, as it turned out, wasn't quite so inevitable.  As long as you're in the air, there's something positive you can do so bailing doesn't seem to be a "game" solution to much of anything. 

Your reading my post all wrong. ( don't read too much into it )

Simply put.. " if you are in a Battle, where the sides are 2 vs 1, or your team is getting rolled ", you as a player.... have options.

Stay and fight against the odds, or return to your base,..... to fight another day., …… that's it !

 

 


Edited by cobra_marksman, 01 September 2019 - 02:22 PM.


BB3_Oregon_Steel #24 Posted 01 September 2019 - 08:09 PM

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View Postcobra_marksman, on 01 September 2019 - 06:19 AM, said:

Your reading my post all wrong. ( don't read too much into it )

Simply put.. " if you are in a Battle, where the sides are 2 vs 1, or your team is getting rolled ", you as a player.... have options.

Stay and fight against the odds, or return to your base,..... to fight another day., …… that's it !

 

 

 

Ok soooo ... you could leave your plane and go afk while you fixed up a burger, you could point the nose of your plane down over and over again and create pretty balls of fire until you run out of planes, you could head to the boundary at maximum speed and see how hard you can bounce off, you could pretend that the map is an obstacle course and see how long you can weave through stuffs before exploderating, you could try to land at an airstrip or one of the roads, you could fly as high as your plane can go just to see how high it can go, you could race along as close to group level as possible to see how low you can fly without crashing, you could decide to fly your plane using nothing but the tail gunner, you could fly as close behind a blue (or red) plane as possible without chopping its tail off all the time texting "Beep Beep Beep"

 

Yes you are quite correct, there are lots of options out there and all of them would apparently be valid ones to choose if the game isn't going your way.  None of them would appear to accomplish much or be any kind of real solution to being at a disadvantage, but you are right, there are lots and lots of those nifty options out there.  

 

  


"Don't mess with me because I can squish you like a bug, that is If I should decide to notice your existence in the first place".  

 

Yes, it's haughty and its arrogant but you're a battleship with 16 inch guns and Britannia Rules the Waves.  Maybe a bit of arrogance in this case is appropriate.  


cobra_marksman #25 Posted 01 September 2019 - 08:41 PM

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View PostBB3_Oregon_Steel, on 01 September 2019 - 03:09 PM, said:

 

Ok soooo ... you could leave your plane and go afk while you fixed up a burger, you could point the nose of your plane down over and over again and create pretty balls of fire until you run out of planes, you could head to the boundary at maximum speed and see how hard you can bounce off, you could pretend that the map is an obstacle course and see how long you can weave through stuffs before exploderating, you could try to land at an airstrip or one of the roads, you could fly as high as your plane can go just to see how high it can go, you could race along as close to group level as possible to see how low you can fly without crashing, you could decide to fly your plane using nothing but the tail gunner, you could fly as close behind a blue (or red) plane as possible without chopping its tail off all the time texting "Beep Beep Beep"

 

Yes you are quite correct, there are lots of options out there and all of them would apparently be valid ones to choose if the game isn't going your way.  None of them would appear to accomplish much or be any kind of real solution to being at a disadvantage, but you are right, there are lots and lots of those nifty options out there.  

 

  


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Edited by cobra_marksman, 01 September 2019 - 11:50 PM.


Captain_Underpants53 #26 Posted 01 September 2019 - 09:15 PM

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View PostBB3_Oregon_Steel, on 01 September 2019 - 03:09 PM, said:

 

Ok soooo ... you could leave your plane and go afk while you fixed up a burger, you could point the nose of your plane down over and over again and create pretty balls of fire until you run out of planes, you could head to the boundary at maximum speed and see how hard you can bounce off, you could pretend that the map is an obstacle course and see how long you can weave through stuffs before exploderating, you could try to land at an airstrip or one of the roads, you could fly as high as your plane can go just to see how high it can go, you could race along as close to group level as possible to see how low you can fly without crashing, you could decide to fly your plane using nothing but the tail gunner, you could fly as close behind a blue (or red) plane as possible without chopping its tail off all the time texting "Beep Beep Beep"

 

Yes you are quite correct, there are lots of options out there and all of them would apparently be valid ones to choose if the game isn't going your way.  None of them would appear to accomplish much or be any kind of real solution to being at a disadvantage, but you are right, there are lots and lots of those nifty options out there.  

 

  


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GonerNL #27 Posted 03 September 2019 - 08:42 AM

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I've had a couple of those 2-vs-1 "battles" ... at first I stayed, but now when I get "matched" against a higher tier flight of specialist heavies, I just tell 'm to have fun with the bots and I quit (yes, it's an option, but I guess that if you're a masochist, you can stay and enjoy the abuse).

 


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I also quit these kind of battles.
Life is too short to throw it away in these kind of predetermined outcomes.

BB3_Oregon_Steel #29 Posted 03 September 2019 - 06:58 PM

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View Postcobra_marksman, on 01 September 2019 - 12:41 PM, said:


Are you back to.....drinking...…..again ?....... Babe.

Yes, Henry Weinhards Root Beer.  It's got an extra dash of vanilla which makes it especially smooth without being overpowering and I believe this vintage was an especially good week. :great:

 

Of course it's hard to beat and A&W Root Beer served in one of their chilled glasses where the root beer creates a tiny film of frozen root beer along the inside of the glass.  Of course finding an A&W is sort of like finding a unicorn these days. 

 

IBC gets an honorable mention, especially their Cream Soda which is to die for!!! :medal:


Edited by BB3_Oregon_Steel, 03 September 2019 - 07:01 PM.

"Don't mess with me because I can squish you like a bug, that is If I should decide to notice your existence in the first place".  

 

Yes, it's haughty and its arrogant but you're a battleship with 16 inch guns and Britannia Rules the Waves.  Maybe a bit of arrogance in this case is appropriate.  


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View PostGonerNL, on 03 September 2019 - 02:42 AM, said:

I've had a couple of those 2-vs-1 "battles" ... at first I stayed, but now when I get "matched" against a higher tier flight of specialist heavies, I just tell 'm to have fun with the bots and I quit (yes, it's an option, but I guess that if you're a masochist, you can stay and enjoy the abuse).

 

 

Heck I do understand the quit. Certainly.  I will stay in just to improve my flying (no idea if it has helped.)  A few times I have made them chase and fight me so long, my botties won the battle.  But again, I am that good. :honoring:

 

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