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SkyWolf__WM #1 Posted 08 August 2019 - 02:21 PM

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I hate the two asymmetrical maps. The atoll map with 1 command center and an airfield and garrison.

Yes, there are strategies, but screw these maps.

The one with a command center by one spawn point and an airbase in the middle and two garrisons by the other spawn point. It's stupid.

 

And lose the low scoring "all garrison" maps as well.  :sceptic:

 


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pyantoryng #2 Posted 08 August 2019 - 04:59 PM

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Low tier 2 garrison 1MB or 1 Plant Winter War map...

 

1 Plant 2 CC 1 airstrip Fjords.

 

All garrison sucks for attack planes but good for fighters...



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Captain_Rownd #3 Posted 08 August 2019 - 07:25 PM

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View PostSkyWolf__WM, on 08 August 2019 - 04:21 AM, said:

And lose the low scoring "all garrison" maps as well.  :sceptic:

 

 

Hold on, I say hold on son.  5-garrison maps are what we here call a "target rich environment". 

 

the asymmetric maps blow chunks.

 

3 cap maps are even worse!

 

and all maps should have mining plants.  The layout I like the best is the one with a circle of 5 different caps. 


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Stygian_Alchemist #4 Posted 08 August 2019 - 07:33 PM

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I like all garrison maps because I actually -do- get to score points.. MP maps I get squat, same for MB maps. 

I also.. oddly.. really enjoy the asymmetrical maps because it forces furballs and tactics.... I know, contrary, but it's actually how I think!

I would say though that perhaps they could umm... put the 3 node cc/af/garrisson one a bit closer together. The travel from north to south is asininely long for some tiers/planes.

desert786 #5 Posted 08 August 2019 - 10:54 PM

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View PostCaptain_Rownd, on 08 August 2019 - 11:25 AM, said:

all maps should have mining plants

They should remove mine's form the game. they make the game play focus around one specific sector instead of aerial combat. this is why GAA and Bombers too strong. it lets two classes play a mini game instead of do what the game was developed as.

 

remove mining plant may balance out these classes without having the need to nerf either.

 

interestingly 5 garrison maps or 3 garrison 2 airfield/base tend to be the most enjoyable since you can actually engage in aerial combat. at the same time GAA and bomber have a place to assist or maintain cap advantage. balance.



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View Postdesert786, on 08 August 2019 - 12:54 PM, said:

They should remove mine's form the game. they make the game play focus around one specific sector instead of aerial combat. this is why GAA and Bombers too strong. it lets two classes play a mini game instead of do what the game was developed as.

 

Two classes?  Nonsense, my multiroles and heavies love shooting down enemies and blowing crap up in the mining plant, and even my light fighters regularly enjoy some feasting there. 

 


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desert786 #7 Posted 08 August 2019 - 11:40 PM

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View PostCaptain_Rownd, on 08 August 2019 - 03:12 PM, said:

 

Two classes?  Nonsense, my multiroles and heavies love shooting down enemies and blowing crap up in the mining plant, and even my light fighters regularly enjoy some feasting there. 

 


try playing a lot of high tier matches, then come back to me with what u find.



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View PostSkyWolf__WM, on 08 August 2019 - 09:21 AM, said:

And lose the low scoring "all garrison" maps as well.  :sceptic:

 

No way, as someone who prefers light fighters, I love those all garrison maps.  Mine maps can diaf.


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Captain_Rownd #9 Posted 09 August 2019 - 12:00 AM

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View Postdesert786, on 08 August 2019 - 01:40 PM, said:


try playing a lot of high tier matches, then come back to me with what u find.

 

Tempest, Sea Hawk, VB 10, MiG 9 - I love taking them all to the mining plant.  XP-72, Ta 152 and even Yak-19 will be heading that way a lot too when I get them.  Even if you're shooting everything down you need some ground-pounding allies with you of course, but then you also need to protect those allies as they do their thing. 


Edited by Captain_Rownd, 09 August 2019 - 12:06 AM.

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asym maps are fine, it's the huge low tier maps that somewhat bug me


a little bit


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SkyWolf__WM #11 Posted 09 August 2019 - 12:05 AM

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You can't get rid of the mines. Just ditch the asymmetrical maps.  :B
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I think of it as a flying around blowing sh1t up in all sorts of ways game.  I fly high, I fly low, I fly fast, I fly slow, I loop and I swoop and I poop on the cap - I enjoy it all.

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Me (mindlessly jotting down list of recommended bombers)  I think it's OK!
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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 08 August 2019 - 06:38 PM, said:

Me (mindlessly jotting down list of recommended bombers)  I think it's OK!


u have all the bomber why do u need notes?



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View Postdesert786, on 08 August 2019 - 08:23 PM, said:


why fly fighter when u will just lose over and over to the "meta." classes that require a 1/4 of a functioning brain to and i use the term lightly "fly". I would love to fly the planes i want to fly, i.e LF and MRs. But why should i when i know there is no way to be competitive?

 

I do fly all classes, i do know how mindless it is to fly GAA and Bombers. i would rather them be erased from this game than HAVE to fly these boring POS to stay competitive. Why do so many people think that the top tier meta being dominated by four planes is O.K. RB 17, Ju 287, EF 131 and Su-10 are all stupidly overpowered. the only thing that has a chance of contesting these aircraft at top tier is the XF 90. Even with all its speed and firepower, stopping the bomber menace is not assured. Why do people think this is OK?

Umm.. the 17 and 287 are generally fun pickings for my XP-58, Vampire, XF5U, etc... and I have no problems dropping the EF-131 or Su-10 in my 1101, f-86, swift, javelin, XF-90, HGIII, BV P215.02, etc. etc. etc. even... for that matter.. the Russian bombers are funniest because people try to fly them low enough they run into my GAA and shooting a bomber down with a GAA is just giggle worthy. And if you're exceptionally good you can kill your fellow bombers with your turrets in the EF-131... but that requires actual skill.

Sounds like you might want to take some of your criticality and point it at yourself.. 

And before you quote your win rate at me... I don't actually care. I've beaten you plenty of times. I've also studied replays with you plenty of times.... I understand what you're doing and how you're doing it. I won't 'play' like that and win-rate doesn't mean enough to -me- to change that... so let's just recap this beforehand

Desert: but muh winrate
Me: I don't care
Desert: irritating and pointless remark
Me: Still don't care <insert witty picture of salt flats>
Desert: *gets louder and more insistent*
Me: *eats popcorn* Yup. Still don't care.


Edited by Stygian_Alchemist, 09 August 2019 - 03:10 AM.


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View Postdesert786, on 08 August 2019 - 09:48 PM, said:


u have all the bomber why do u need notes?


I miss the sights, sounds, and yes, stinks of the flightline.  Nothing quite as satisfying as hot gases being forcefully emitted in the morning.  Now why do I recall that all of a sudden?  It's been over 30 years now.      :unsure:


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View Postdesert786, on 08 August 2019 - 09:23 PM, said:


why fly fighter when u will just lose over and over to the "meta." classes that require a 1/4 of a functioning brain to and i use the term lightly "fly". I would love to fly the planes i want to fly, i.e LF and MRs. But why should i when i know there is no way to be competitive?

 

I do fly all classes, i do know how mindless it is to fly GAA and Bombers. i would rather them be erased from this game than HAVE to fly these boring POS to stay competitive. Why do so many people think that the top tier meta being dominated by four planes is O.K. RB 17, Ju 287, EF 131 and Su-10 are all stupidly overpowered. the only thing that has a chance of contesting these aircraft at top tier is the XF 90. Even with all its speed and firepower, stopping the bomber menace is not assured. Why do people think this is OK?

Wrong. Learn to fly and battle different types of aircraft.:child:


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View Posttrikke, on 08 August 2019 - 04:04 PM, said:

asym maps are fine, it's the huge low tier maps that somewhat bug me


a little bit

Agreed. Archipelago is cute but should not be for tier 3 slow planes that need a minute to get from a spawn to the objectives.


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ye not a fan of those to maps  either

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