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CorvusCorvax #1 Posted 20 June 2019 - 07:37 PM

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Flying my Ki-84 on Plateau, starting from the southern spawn, flying toward the SW command center.  2.5km out, 1200m altitude.

 

Flying along, and BOOM, flak shell knocks off 1/3 of my HP.  I am nowhere near any capture zone, and well outside the described AAA coverage area.  No globe warning of AAA fire.  Just a big, black BOOM, and a 1/3 of my HP, gone.  I flew on for another 20 seconds to get to the actual capture area, got the globe warning, and then began the dance.  After we capped, I flew outside the capture circle and lawn-darted to see if I could replicate the effect.

 

Only random bullet hits, just like in the past.

 

Anyone else encounter flak well outside the capture zone - like 1000m or more?



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bird strike

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View Postlosttwo, on 20 June 2019 - 07:50 PM, said:

bird strike

IED turkey vulture?



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Oh tes.  I always figured it was the MM trying to make the game fit the RNG.   The only folks that would really know, ain't talkin'.

 

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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 20 June 2019 - 02:37 PM, said:

Flying my Ki-84 on Plateau, starting from the southern spawn, flying toward the SW command center.  2.5km out, 1200m altitude.

 

Flying along, and BOOM, flak shell knocks off 1/3 of my HP.  I am nowhere near any capture zone, and well outside the described AAA coverage area.  No globe warning of AAA fire.  Just a big, black BOOM, and a 1/3 of my HP, gone.  I flew on for another 20 seconds to get to the actual capture area, got the globe warning, and then began the dance.  After we capped, I flew outside the capture circle and lawn-darted to see if I could replicate the effect.

 

Only random bullet hits, just like in the past.

 

Anyone else encounter flak well outside the capture zone - like 1000m or more?


yes, I have.  I have also had bullets from nowhere hit me far from caps and enemy planes.  It is weird.

 


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Flak can hit you from almost twice as far out as the node circle in some instances and the warning only shows up if it targets you specifically and first as far as I can tell. Meaning if it was firing at anything nearby even 10 seconds ago (it can take a while for flak to travel, surprisingly. I've watch them fire from the ground in bombsights and counted off the time til it hits my plane, longest yet was 10 seconds while I was targeted on the edge of the node and flying full steam out in my EF-131) you probably just flew through an area that had been blasted at.

Beyond that, its been a known bug that inactive nodes on a map with more than one possible setup will still fire flak from time to time. WG has fixed it and it has crept back in several times.

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Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #7 Posted 20 June 2019 - 08:49 PM

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likely burst fuel cell or personal ordinance detonation

 


if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


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View PostAce_BOTlistic_Cosmo, on 20 June 2019 - 02:49 PM, said:

personal ordinance detonation

 

Does that mean he's violated so many protection orders against him that they had to put an exploding collar on him?



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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 20 June 2019 - 08:34 PM, said:

Oh tes.  I always figured it was the MM trying to make the game fit the RNG.   The only folks that would really know, ain't talkin'.

 

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I figured as much.  I mean, the random bullet strikes when you are 3km away from ANYTHING were already kind of "OK, whatever", but a full-blown flak strike directly on the aircraft is a complete "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over" thing.  I will admit, I am rarely any less than the second person into a cap area, and even then, it's usually on purpose.  Also, my prefered mode is to hit the cap area at yellow altitude and dive on the ADA/red planes.  Or hit the zone low, and start knocking out flak sites.  Mid-altitude approaches where I'm the third or fourth plane into the zone is really unusual, so I'm willing to accept that it's different for those folks.  But more than kilometer outside the designated flak coverage area?  Even for WeeGee, that's strange.  I rolled the RNGeezus snake eyes on that zone entry...



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View PostAce_BOTlistic_Cosmo, on 20 June 2019 - 08:49 PM, said:

likely burst fuel cell or personal ordinance detonation

 

Someone pulled the pin while I was looking the other way, dammitall...



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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 20 June 2019 - 03:55 PM, said:

Does that mean he's violated so many protection orders against him that they had to put an exploding collar on him?

used all my upvotes... good catch


if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


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Phantom bullets and phantom AA are a common occurance for me, typically within a few seconds of respawn.  Usually they are bullets and only take off a few HP, though.

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I do believe I've been victim of a rogue flak burst like this recently.

There was a Yak-9u bot on the enemy team who I ran into shortly afterwards so I had assumed it must have scored an extreme range hit but it felt more like an AA flak hit and the Yak wasn't even on the radar at the time.


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View Posthoom, on 21 June 2019 - 12:03 AM, said:

I do believe I've been victim of a rogue flak burst like this recently.

There was a Yak-9u bot on the enemy team who I ran into shortly afterwards so I had assumed it must have scored an extreme range hit but it felt more like an AA flak hit and the Yak wasn't even on the radar at the time.


Yeah, it was a flak burst, because of the big black puff of smoke right on the nose.  To get all the way over to our spawn area, a Yak MRF would have had to teleport.  They aren't that fast!  Well, not normally.  I guess it could be one of those stealth Yaks with JATO pods...



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View PostCaptain_Rownd, on 20 June 2019 - 10:44 PM, said:

Phantom bullets and phantom AA are a common occurance for me, typically within a few seconds of respawn.  Usually they are bullets and only take off a few HP, though.

 

Me too.  Caused by the same thing, I think.  Server/clients get out of syn when planes respawn or die so the damage that was meant for someone else ends up with you.  

 

Another version of this is when you respawn and suddenly you are inside a different plane with no control.  This happens often enough that WG has a fix for this (hit the enter key).

 



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View Postbradk62, on 21 June 2019 - 12:51 AM, said:

 

Me too.  Caused by the same thing, I think.  Server/clients get out of syn when planes respawn or die so the damage that was meant for someone else ends up with you.  

 

Another version of this is when you respawn and suddenly you are inside a different plane with no control.  This happens often enough that WG has a fix for this (hit the enter key).

 

 

 

Hmmmm, OK.  I guess I had never experienced a direct hit before.  Other than the phantom bullet strikes.  One time, it resulted in an engine crit.  (!!!)



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 20 June 2019 - 01:37 PM, said:

Anyone else encounter flak well outside the capture zone - like 1000m or more?

 

Yes.



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View Postcomtedumas, on 20 June 2019 - 02:39 PM, said:


yes, I have.  I have also had bullets from nowhere hit me far from caps and enemy planes.  It is weird.

 

Have had the same ting ,and the only thing even close is a "blue triangle" roflol maybe they testing their guns  ol


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Sounds like you suck at stirring...

 

 

 


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I died by "bomb" last night. I guess someone dropped one from high altitude and I flew right into it lol





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