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pirat262 #1 Posted 13 June 2019 - 03:51 AM

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While it is a great bomber, it does not change much with respect to the Ju 287 it is a bit better with greater speed height and a better turret., It is not like the brutal change you get with the Tu 12 at Su 10 soviets. The bomber changes notoriously once it is a specialist and to test it use in the event "Personal rating: Secret Trials: Engine from scratch with the bomber to specialist and something else doing some extra missions and really filled my expectations of what I expected with this bomber tier 10, really very good aircraft for bomber precision high-rise, medium height and low clear

 

 

 

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Gratz, buddy.

 

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I'm glad your liking it pirat but precision bombing is not what I'm experiencing, at least with anything above 1000 meters.

For whatever reason these 1000kg bombs rarely go anywhere near where they're aimed in my limited experience with the EF131.

late edit - the 7-skill pilot was/is fully trained in the EF-131


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Zigfreid #4 Posted 13 June 2019 - 02:26 PM

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Gratz and +1, you look good at #1 very nice flying.:medal:

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View PostClosedCoffin, on 13 June 2019 - 01:58 PM, said:

I'm glad your liking it pirat but precision bombing is not what I'm experiencing, at least with anything above 1000 meters.

For whatever reason these 1000kg bombs rarely go anywhere near they're aimed in my limited experience with the EF131.

 


Ummm, wow.  That was horrible.  Edit:  I watched it again.  The bomb did actually land within the area described by the circle.  It just so happens to have landed at the trailing edge of the circle.  NICE.

 


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thanks Guys but you are very good ones too really good + well Closedcoffin may be was a game mistake but the best choice at that altitude is drop the bombsin the middle of the target or right before you enter in the base to wipe out because sometimes if you drop the bomb in the limit the bomb explode at the corners of the site is weird but happens , Good hunting guys :)

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You just weren't lined enough.  The circle and the + and the plane not being in a turn are musts for me to hit targets,  Sometimes you line it up quickly and hit good enough, but when you are flying like you are dodging road pylons, you gonna miss.

 

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View PostBooze_Morgan, on 13 June 2019 - 03:14 PM, said:

when you are flying like you are dodging road pylons, you gonna miss.

 

 

And if you don't fly like that, flak gonna chew you a new, ummm, flak hole.



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 13 June 2019 - 09:45 AM, said:

 

And if you don't fly like that, flak gonna chew you a new, ummm, flak hole.

 

So you fly through fast, hitting what you KNOW you can hit, get out and fly back through?  I really don't know lots about bombers, but I do know some.  I think I do. :sceptic:  Maybe I don't.  Learning though!

 

So maybe the decision is between  flying thru fast, hitting what is in as straight a line as possible, then turning and repeating.  Or flying through zigzaging, dropping all ordinance but missing some because of zigging.

 

What you think?

 

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View PostBooze_Morgan, on 13 June 2019 - 03:57 PM, said:

 

So you fly through fast, hitting what you KNOW you can hit, get out and fly back through?  I really don't know lots about bombers, but I do know some.  I think I do. :sceptic:  Maybe I don't.  Learning though!

 

So maybe the decision is between  flying thru fast, hitting what is in as straight a line as possible, then turning and repeating.  Or flying through zigzaging, dropping all ordinance but missing some because of zigging.

 

What you think?

 

 

 

If you fly straight AT ALL, the flak gonna zap you.  How much it zaps you is a little random.  Oh, no it isn't - you get about half your HP knocked off.  Fly a giant fortress into the zone, and let the bombs fly (B-32, anyone?) 1100HP later, you've flipped the cap, but you're half dead.  Weave around like a pilot that hit the bottle less than 8 hours before the throttle, (ACE, I'm looking at you, buddy), and your bombs don't hit, but you also don't get chewed a new flakhole.

 

Pick yer poison.

 

BTW, same goes for flying FAST through a cap.  RB-17 will get chewed up just as bad for flying straight.  About the only luck I've had against that is to fly down below flak level, and then I get chewed by ADA.  And once by a GAA.  LOL.



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Ah. Beginning to seeeeee.

 

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View PostBooze_Morgan, on 13 June 2019 - 10:57 AM, said:

 

So you fly through fast, hitting what you KNOW you can hit, get out and fly back through?  I really don't know lots about bombers, but I do know some.  I think I do. :sceptic:  Maybe I don't.  Learning though!

 

So maybe the decision is between  flying thru fast, hitting what is in as straight a line as possible, then turning and repeating.  Or flying through zigzaging, dropping all ordinance but missing some because of zigging.

 

What you think?

 

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View PostClosedCoffin, on 13 June 2019 - 07:58 AM, said:

I'm glad your liking it pirat but precision bombing is not what I'm experiencing, at least with anything above 1000 meters.

For whatever reason these 1000kg bombs rarely go anywhere near where they're aimed in my limited experience with the EF131.

late edit - the 7-skill pilot was/is fully trained in the EF-131

I heard you pickle off about a tenth of a second too early after watching the video a couple of times, based on my normal drop spots. Also, suggestion, nose it down slightly just before you drop, it likes that.


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Flak fires in timed and limited bursts, full stop. If you know how to pay attention to the flak you know how long you can fly straight. There are whole -chunks- of time you can fly straight because they're reloading. You need to pay attention to how many flak are on still up on the ground (That means knowing how many are in a given node and paying attention to whether they've been popped), how many -you- have drawn the aggro of and start counting shells and times between explosions in order to maximize the usage of that. After a while it becomes a counting game tied to your steering. Height variations (porpoising at high speed) will -also- semi-neuter flak as they over or undershoot you and of course there's always making sure there's someone else in the node to draw flak fire. Slight rudder right/left will also give flak dodge while maintaining a fairly straight course as it auto-corrects back to the course it was in when you let out of the rudder. Finally, I'd like to add that slamming the air brakes is also an option in two cases. Open air and you just got the notification you're under fire? Let them light the sky in front of you. Close air, there's an enemy or ADA on your tail? Slam the airbrakes and tail-slap them for a ram-kill -while- also letting the flak shoot in front of you ;) 

There's more there, but a girl can't give all her secrets away for free ;) 


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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 13 June 2019 - 09:06 PM, said:

I heard you pickle off about a tenth of a second too early after watching the video a couple of times, based on my normal drop spots. Also, suggestion, nose it down slightly just before you drop, it likes that.
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There's more there, but a girl can't give all her secrets away for free ;) 

1/10sec, yeah I guess it's always been more art than science with a lot of these skills.

I'm finding low alt. bombing in this plane, as some have advised, helps with target destruction.

Thanks for the advice WW, and you others too.



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View PostClosedCoffin, on 13 June 2019 - 04:03 PM, said:

1/10sec, yeah I guess it's always been more art than science with a lot of these skills.

I'm finding low alt. bombing in this plane, as some have advised, helps with target destruction.

Thanks for the advice WW, and you others too.



It really is an art, though timing of drop seems to be a probablistic science. Based on your slight turn into the node it shortened the distance the bomb would travel forward a miniscule amount as not all of the momentum was there. I've been experimenting with turns to "throw" bombs out to the sides and such... it surprisingly works. I'm mildly surprised there seems to be momentum mechanics in the bomb drops.



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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 13 June 2019 - 06:08 PM, said:



It really is an art, though timing of drop seems to be a probablistic science. Based on your slight turn into the node it shortened the distance the bomb would travel forward a miniscule amount as not all of the momentum was there. I've been experimenting with turns to "throw" bombs out to the sides and such... it surprisingly works. I'm mildly surprised there seems to be momentum mechanics in the bomb drops.


try throwing with the LBSh, works great, you can almost throw them around corners....


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View Postcomtedumas, on 16 June 2019 - 01:54 PM, said:


try throwing with the LBSh, works great, you can almost throw them around corners....

I don't fly much low-tier, but next time I'm down there I will remember to try that. High maneuver throws would be... kinda brilliant.







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