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legoboy0401 #1 Posted 13 June 2019 - 02:52 AM

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Well, I'm back to making reviews. It's been a few months, but it is that time again. I decided that I would review these things, especially because the Tier VI is widely regarded as one of the best/most overpowered planes tier for tier in the game.


 


 


 


 

                                                                                               Tier V Japanese Tech Tree Heavy Fighter Ki-45


 

New player's first impressions:


 

<vomits>  This is NOT a plane I would recommend to new players unless they just so happen to have 6,750 FXP lying around.


 


 

Review:


 

Stock configuration for this aircraft, particularly in regards to firepower, is so bad that EVERYONE else at Tier V, baring the(but you don't have to play it in that bad configuration, the upgrade is already available because you unlock it the tier before) Ki-43-II, LAUGHS at it. Playing the Ki-45 with the stock armament(even with the middle armament, it isn't much better), even top tier,  and expecting to be anything but a joke, anything but a handicap to your team, is like casually lightly blowing on someone and even expecting them to be hurt at all, let alone to violently die.


 

But... ... once you get the 37 mm, you go from being a joke, to being the Joker. Yes, that's right folks, fully upgraded, the Ki-45 packs some deadly tricks up its sleeve.


 

First, that 37. While the DPS on it may be DEADLY serious(highest DPS of ANY single gun at Tier V), what WON'T be serious will be the expression on your face when you manage to land shots with it. Chances are, you won't be able to keep a straight face when playing this plane with the 37. The crazy antics and shenanigans that you can pull with the 37 are so comical, so over the top, that hitting with the 37 mm should really cause comic book style pop-ups to appear: "Bang!"  Pow!" "Boom!" All in all, this weapon would DEFINITELY be a favorite of the Clown Prince of Crime.


 


 

Second, this plane(and the Ki-102 after it)'s CRAZY maneuverability for a Heavy Fighter. When I play this plane, I just LOVE when player Beaufighters on the enemy team (who CLEARLY haven't done their research on this line) decide that it is a good idea to turnfight my 12.3 second turn time Ki-45 in their 14.9 second turn time Beaufighter. Sure, their forward firepower is INSANE, and educated Beaufighters who never turn their back on me can often get the better of me, but the instant they let me get on their tail, they are dead, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. This plane's crazy maneuverability is a bit less commonly known than the maneuverability stats of the other Tier V Heavy Fighters. Since the rule once was, if a Tier V Heavy Fighter has a rear gun, and it isn't a Beaufighter, it has a 16 second turn time, it is quite an understandable mistake to make, but also a lethal one. This plane has the appearance of a 16-second turn time Tier V Heavy Fighter to the unwary, but when it gets close to its quarry(chiefly other Heavy Fighters, though it's not bad against Light and Multiroles either), it unveils in a very Joker-esque manner its ungodly-for-a-Tier-V-Heavy-Fighter 12.3 second turn time, usually to DEVASTATING effect.


 

How to play this plane: It plays like a Heavy Fighter version of the XFL-1. A short-range, high-damage 37 mm derp gun(responsible for most of the plane's DPS) coupled with very sub-par backup weapons. Best at turnfighting, though with the Ki-45 being a Heavy Fighter, it requires more discretion than turnfighting with a Light Fighter does.


 

Competitiveness For Tier: 8.75(this is only this low because none of the Tier V Heavy Fighters currently in game, fully upgraded at least, are blatantly uncompetitive or even subpar.)


 

Fun Factor: This will vary depending on the individual player's skill in aiming, but for me it is about 9.75, only edged out by the P-38F due to the latter's high-octane, high-adrenaline playstyle


 

Skill Floor: moderate


 

Skill Ceiling: high


 


 


 

Angry Youtuber Review:


 


 


 

Out Of The Box: GARBAGE

 

 

(Out of the box, this plane is DREADFUL, SIMPLY DREADFUL. It's definitely the single worst stock grind of any Heavy Fighter that I have played so far, though whether it is the worst stock grind of any Heavy Fighter IN THE GAME remains to be seen.)

 

 

Elite: gud

 

 

(Elite, this plane is quite a solid aircraft, and deals a bit better with Tier VIs than your average Tier V, thanks to its particular niche. It is, more often than not, devilishly hilarious to play.

 

 

 

(I will update this with my opinion on the specialist config of this plane when unlock and purchase it.)

 

 

 

All things considered, a plane of polar opposite power levels from stock to elite. USELESS stock, quite good elite.

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by legoboy0401, 13 June 2019 - 02:55 AM.

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Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #2 Posted 13 June 2019 - 03:02 AM

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dang... St Louis wins the Stanley Cup ,

and next you show up//\\ again

are the cubs going to win.. Cubs win?

oh yeah...

what were you saying

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Spoiler

 


Edited by Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo, 13 June 2019 - 03:06 AM.

if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


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View Postlegoboy0401, on 12 June 2019 - 09:52 PM, said:

Well, I'm back to making reviews. It's been a few months, but it is that time again. I decided that I would review these things, especially because the Tier VI is widely regarded as one of the best/most overpowered planes tier for tier in the game.


 


 


 


 

                                                                                               Tier V Japanese Tech Tree Heavy Fighter Ki-45


 

New player's first impressions:


 

<vomits>  This is NOT a plane I would recommend to new players unless they just so happen to have 6,750 FXP lying around.


 


 

Review:


 

Stock configuration for this aircraft, particularly in regards to firepower, is so bad that EVERYONE else at Tier V, baring the(but you don't have to play it in that bad configuration, the upgrade is already available because you unlock it the tier before) Ki-43-II, LAUGHS at it. Playing the Ki-45 with the stock armament(even with the middle armament, it isn't much better), even top tier,  and expecting to be anything but a joke, anything but a handicap to your team, is like casually lightly blowing on someone and even expecting them to be hurt at all, let alone to violently die.


 

But... ... once you get the 37 mm, you go from being a joke, to being the Joker. Yes, that's right folks, fully upgraded, the Ki-45 packs some deadly tricks up its sleeve.


 

First, that 37. While the DPS on it may be DEADLY serious(highest DPS of ANY single gun at Tier V), what WON'T be serious will be the expression on your face when you manage to land shots with it. Chances are, you won't be able to keep a straight face when playing this plane with the 37. The crazy antics and shenanigans that you can pull with the 37 are so comical, so over the top, that hitting with the 37 mm should really cause comic book style pop-ups to appear: "Bang!"  Pow!" "Boom!" All in all, this weapon would DEFINITELY be a favorite of the Clown Prince of Crime.


 


 

Second, this plane(and the Ki-102 after it)'s CRAZY maneuverability for a Heavy Fighter. When I play this plane, I just LOVE when player Beaufighters on the enemy team (who CLEARLY haven't done their research on this line) decide that it is a good idea to turnfight my 12.3 second turn time Ki-45 in their 14.9 second turn time Beaufighter. Sure, their forward firepower is INSANE, and educated Beaufighters who never turn their back on me can often get the better of me, but the instant they let me get on their tail, they are dead, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. This plane's crazy maneuverability is a bit less commonly known than the maneuverability stats of the other Tier V Heavy Fighters. Since the rule once was, if a Tier V Heavy Fighter has a rear gun, and it isn't a Beaufighter, it has a 16 second turn time, it is quite an understandable mistake to make, but also a lethal one. This plane has the appearance of a 16-second turn time Tier V Heavy Fighter to the unwary, but when it gets close to its quarry(chiefly other Heavy Fighters, though it's not bad against Light and Multiroles either), it unveils in a very Joker-esque manner its ungodly-for-a-Tier-V-Heavy-Fighter 12.3 second turn time, usually to DEVASTATING effect.


 

How to play this plane: It plays like a Heavy Fighter version of the XFL-1. A short-range, high-damage 37 mm derp gun(responsible for most of the plane's DPS) coupled with very sub-par backup weapons. Best at turnfighting, though with the Ki-45 being a Heavy Fighter, it requires more discretion than turnfighting with a Light Fighter does.


 

Competitiveness For Tier: 8.75(this is only this low because none of the Tier V Heavy Fighters currently in game, fully upgraded at least, are blatantly uncompetitive or even subpar.)


 

Fun Factor: This will vary depending on the individual player's skill in aiming, but for me it is about 9.75, only edged out by the P-38F due to the latter's high-octane, high-adrenaline playstyle


 

Skill Floor: moderate


 

Skill Ceiling: high


 


 


 

Angry Youtuber Review:


 


 


 

Out Of The Box: GARBAGE

 

 

(Out of the box, this plane is DREADFUL, SIMPLY DREADFUL. It's definitely the single worst stock grind of any Heavy Fighter that I have played so far, though whether it is the worst stock grind of any Heavy Fighter IN THE GAME remains to be seen.)

 

 

Elite: gud

 

 

(Elite, this plane is quite a solid aircraft, and deals a bit better with Tier VIs than your average Tier V, thanks to its particular niche. It is, more often than not, devilishly hilarious to play.

 

 

 

(I will update this with my opinion on the specialist config of this plane when unlock and purchase it.)

 

 

 

All things considered, a plane of polar opposite power levels from stock to elite. USELESS stock, quite good elite.

 

 

 

 

 

 


if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


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I do agree it is a plane that is not for the beginner.

More so some one that has less than 500 hours into the game and is trying to grind up the Japanese line quickly.

That is unless of course you do not mind losing.

 

Japanese planes have never held up in the forums..I mean game due to their thin skin.

Growing up through the Japanese line was always tougher than with the Russian due to the paper versus wood.

You may think the Russians catch fire quickly. The Japanese will catch as soon as you look at it.

 

However, if you have spent a lot of time in the Russian T&B planes of tier 4 and 5 the Japanese will be a dream.

Just avoid target fixation.



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You aren't kidding about the maneuverability, JP heavies have become my bane in Thunderbolts

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Legoboy, your review moved me to buy one and elite it about an hour ago and thanks, I'm having a good time with it, my lack of experience in heavies notwithstanding.  First sortie resulted in four kills and fourth on the team and a few since then have been similar except for one instance when a Spit I took me out in two passes.  Mucho rear gunner edumacation coming soon! 

Being a cannon afficionado I'm learning but practice is required.  In the meantime, that 37 is a riot.  Managed to kill 2 P-38s with it so far along with Beaus, etc. and one bomber.

Any pointers from anyone on the proper usage of large-bore cannons would be much appreciated from those more experienced than I.  Similarly, heavies are pretty much all terra incognita to me so all hints or instructions will be welcome.  In the meantime I'll try to find info on my own as well.

 

Thanks, Legoboy!  :playing:


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View PostDeltavee, on 14 June 2019 - 07:09 PM, said:

Legoboy, your review moved me to buy one and elite it about an hour ago and thanks, I'm having a good time with it. my lack of experience in heavies notwithstanding.  First sortie resulted in four kills and fourth on the team and a few since then have been similar except for one instance when a Spit I took me out in two passes.  Mucho rear gunner edumacation coming soon! 

Being a cannon afficionado I'm learning but practice is required.  In the meantime, that 37 is a riot.  Managed to kill 2 P-38s with it so far along with Beaus, etc. and one bomber.

Any pointers from anyone on the proper usage of large-bore cannons would be much appreciated from those more experienced than I.  Similarly, heavies are pretty much all terra incognita to me so all hints or instructions will be welcome.  In the meantime I'll try to find info on my own as well.

 

Thanks, Legoboy!  :playing:

As a player of all things German, and especially slow RoF cannon-equipped aircraft, I will tell you this - take your finger off the trigger.  When you get your lead dialed in, click the trigger once, and send the shells one at a time into your prey, managing the cannon overheat cycle.  Try to get into a good position for cannon shots, and try NOT to take shots with high deflection, if you can.  Don't take shots at max range, unless your deflection is zero.  Take them at about 3/4 or 2/3 max range.  You'll get more hits, do more damage, and have more fun.



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View PostDeltavee, on 14 June 2019 - 11:09 AM, said:

Legoboy, your review moved me to buy one and elite it about an hour ago and thanks, I'm having a good time with it, my lack of experience in heavies notwithstanding.  First sortie resulted in four kills and fourth on the team and a few since then have been similar except for one instance when a Spit I took me out in two passes.  Mucho rear gunner edumacation coming soon! 

Being a cannon afficionado I'm learning but practice is required.  In the meantime, that 37 is a riot.  Managed to kill 2 P-38s with it so far along with Beaus, etc. and one bomber.

Any pointers from anyone on the proper usage of large-bore cannons would be much appreciated from those more experienced than I.  Similarly, heavies are pretty much all terra incognita to me so all hints or instructions will be welcome.  In the meantime I'll try to find info on my own as well.

 

Thanks, Legoboy!  :playing:

 

Thanks. That IS what the reviews are for, to let you know if you would like or mesh well with a given aircraft.


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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 14 June 2019 - 02:14 PM, said:

As a player of all things German, and especially slow RoF cannon-equipped aircraft, I will tell you this - take your finger off the trigger.  When you get your lead dialed in, click the trigger once, and send the shells one at a time into your prey, managing the cannon overheat cycle.  Try to get into a good position for cannon shots, and try NOT to take shots with high deflection, if you can.  Don't take shots at max range, unless your deflection is zero.  Take them at about 3/4 or 2/3 max range.  You'll get more hits, do more damage, and have more fun.

 

Thanks for the help, Corvus.

This thing has only two fwd guns, a 37 and a 20 so I bound the 37 to its own key and still use L mouse key for firing both.  Been practicing in the training flight room for a bit and all your good advice fell into place rapidly.  Deflection shots are awkward because of the slow shell travel time, but it still comes down to add or subtract lead to compensate.  Shots from the six are a treat, aren't they?  

Which of the mid-tier German birds would you recommend that have serious cannons?  Doesn't have to be a heavy.

Thanks again man,


Edited by Deltavee, 15 June 2019 - 02:44 AM.

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slow ROF cannons are tough, and when quick overheating is added, it's just murder for an average guy like me


I always have to 'walk' big rounds into a target to get any kills.     

so I search for planes that can pump out 20mms


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View PostDeltavee, on 15 June 2019 - 02:43 AM, said:

 

Thanks for the help, Corvus.

This thing has only two fwd guns, a 37 and a 20 so I bound the 37 to its own key and still use L mouse key for firing both.  Been practicing in the training flight room for a bit and all your good advice fell into place rapidly.  Deflection shots are awkward because of the slow shell travel time, but it still comes down to add or subtract lead to compensate.  Shots from the six are a treat, aren't they?  

Which of the mid-tier German birds would you recommend that have serious cannons?  Doesn't have to be a heavy.

Thanks again man,

 

I hate to say it, but I will.  At T4, the Bf-110C-6.  Premium, but the 30mm is a fighter deleter, and just destroys bombers.  T5, the Bf-109E (OMG, this plane is brutal at T5).  T6, the FW-190 (hard to master, but when you do, you clean up.) T7, FW-190D.  Oh, the Dora is SO sweet.

 

For alternate fun, at T7 is the Bf-109Z.  Four 30mm cannon, with a slow RoF, also widely spaced.  Fast, graceful, frustrating.  I love it anyway.



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View PostDeltavee, on 15 June 2019 - 03:43 AM, said:

Deflection shots are awkward because of the slow shell travel time, but it still comes down to add or subtract lead to compensate.  

 

Additional problem with the 37mm is that they 'act' differently on various planes, probably because of different ROF. I was pretty good with the P-39's but still can not get the hang of the Yak-7 line 37mm ...


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View PostGonerNL, on 19 June 2019 - 08:24 AM, said:

 

Additional problem with the 37mm is that they 'act' differently on various planes, probably because of different ROF. I was pretty good with the P-39's but still can not get the hang of the Yak-7 line 37mm ...

So true.  The Soviet 37s are different than the American 37s  and both of those are different than the Japanese 37s.  But each is fun in its own way.  The derp, derp, derp of the JPN HF line is very amusing.  After looking at this thread, I decided to dust off my Ki-45 and play some.  Pretty soon, I had enough XP for the Ki-102.  What I really need to do is just play this thing until the pilot and gunner have skill points.  Play, play, play.  I don't even think I'm going to get the 50mm cannon for it, since the 37 works so well.  But the temptation is there, just for derpier derping.



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Update: I now have the Ki-102, so expect me to make and post a review of it in a week or two.

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