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pirat262 #1 Posted 06 June 2019 - 08:43 PM

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here guys the horten 229 in action here we can take  a look how it's works in the game

 



CorvusCorvax #2 Posted 06 June 2019 - 09:41 PM

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Hmmmm.  It plays like a heavy fighter.  And a not very good one.

 

I was going to spend money on certificates, but now I think I might skip that.



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 06 June 2019 - 01:41 PM, said:

Hmmmm.  It plays like a heavy fighter.  And a not very good one.

 

I was going to spend money on certificates, but now I think I might skip that.

 

In that case, I won't bother attempting this Operation Order EITHER. So it's basically a Heavy Fighter armed exactly like the J8M, only with sniper-cannon 30s instead of short-ranged ones, and with none of the J8M's speed?

 

That's a hard pass from me.

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View Postlegoboy0401, on 06 June 2019 - 10:01 PM, said:

 

In that case, I won't bother attempting this Operation Order EITHER. So it's basically a Heavy Fighter armed exactly like the J8M, only with sniper-cannon 30s instead of short-ranged ones, and with none of the J8M's speed?

 

 

From looking at the replays, that's exactly how it looks.  Maybe that why the necessary certs are only $32 to purchase?  For the Do-335, I think it was somewhere near $70 to get the tokens/certs necessary (I don't quite remember.)

 

I like the idea of a fast, high-altitude sniper.  But this plane isn't really it.  On the upside, it looks like it prints bushels of credits.



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took a look on Compare, it's basically a Pancake with the Ta-152 guns.  (and better climb and altitude, but less health and I would assume less boost.)   I don't see a major issue with that, tbh.

 

*disclaimer*  I am fully aware of the limitations of stats vs actually flying the craft in question.



Martymart1976 #6 Posted 06 June 2019 - 10:31 PM

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I expected better from this plane.  I checked the stats on the plane and was disappointed. The HO 229  is more comparable in my opinion to a heavy fighter...the guns on paper appear to be just like the DO 335s but a clan mate of mine said they overheat quickly (unlike the DO 335) and have a long firing cycle: clunck...clunck....clunck..

 If it is classified as a light fighter, I would expect it would be more maneuverable than 42.  Light figthers should be down at lower altitudes fighting for air supremacy, not soaring to heights taking out bombers...that is a heavy fighters role. It seems like the developers got this planes role backwards...If you take the HO 229 down at turn and burn altitudes, with a 42 maneuverability, your gonna be respawning an awful lot.That maneuverability is a TAD better than my specialized DO 335.  Yes, the cool factor of a late war German "vunderveapon" is there, but it doesn't seem to have much more going for it....I think this plane fizzled on takeoff suffering  from  an identity crisis. Is it a Heavy fighter, or a light fighter? Seems to me  like it does both jobs poorly.  By the way, my clan mate had buyers remorse. I will pass on this plane regrettably..



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Um, yep, gonna pass on this thing.....just watched the video, no thanks, I'm a fighter kind of guy, and this is not a fighter. Too bad.....:sceptic:


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pirat262 #8 Posted 07 June 2019 - 12:55 AM

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well thanks for the comments guys i think almost the same this plane need more turn  and  would be great , so please WG in the name of many players give it more turn , but is a iconic plane so despite all is  a great plane

 

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I am reserving judgement until I fly it.

I thought the T10 German MRF would be badly unmaneuverable and was pleasantly shown otherwise so.. here's hoping.

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View Postpirat262, on 06 June 2019 - 03:43 PM, said:

here guys the horten 229 in action here we can take  a look how it's works in the game

 

 

:medal:

 

+1 for the eye candy.   :P


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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 06 June 2019 - 09:54 PM, said:

 

:medal:

 

+1 for the eye candy.   :P

 

you got good taste Capt'n!

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View PostMartymart1976, on 06 June 2019 - 09:04 PM, said:

 

you got good taste Capt'n!

 

Oh for Pete's sake... You could post a video that starts with a picture of Fred Armisen in drag and he would give you a +1.  

 

Case in point:

 



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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 06 June 2019 - 08:11 PM, said:

I am reserving judgement until I fly it.

I thought the T10 German MRF would be badly unmaneuverable and was pleasantly shown otherwise so.. here's hoping.

Horton does have the same roll rate as that tier 10 MR. So you may be on to something.
Whether that works in slower tier 8 is another matter. It would be a better comparison to say it rolls like a Me 109TL

All things being equal this aircraft design should have a pitch rate as ridiculously unexpected as the roll rate of a Fw 190.
and an ability to maintain horizontal turn energy for days.
Maybe that is how it is "good at horizontal turn fights" It may roll like a sluggish MR but it can do a full loop on a dime ...

 

But if there is one thing flying heavies taught me; it is that using key binds for all your manual inputs can help to exceed the expectations that come with a Manuverability rating of 45.
And to the guy in the video's credit you can hear those keys clacking away. So odds are he did that.
You know what else helps? Packing in some ultimate equipment and a 10 point pilot. The guy in the video does neither.


 

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is much like my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
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I definitely need that plane then,

Like the saying goes.

A good pilot can make a bad plane look good...



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View PostBobby_Tables, on 06 June 2019 - 10:46 PM, said:

 

Oh for Pete's sake... You could post a video that starts with a picture of Fred Armisen in drag and he would give you a +1.  

 

Case in point:

 

 

He is kinda cute.     :great:
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It flies like a low boost time, squishy, US heavy with accurate 30mm German cannon. 

 

I enjoyed my first flight in it - 12 kills and a bunch of assists.  It took bites out of everything that got in front of it.

 

I just don't have any motivation to play it.



GreatBallsO_Fire_Jr #17 Posted 07 June 2019 - 02:33 PM

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Yeah. I can take it out in my Ta-152 when i see them in battle. Their altitude performance isn't too good. so it is easier to take out at higher altitudes

pirat262 #18 Posted 07 June 2019 - 03:09 PM

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may be the solution to this plane while wg correct that problem of the turn , is flying in pairs in a team with another ,LF ,GA or Bomber or the same that the last one with a wingman in tier 7 , because if you fly in higth altitudes you don't have so many problems and everybody happy , it could fly very well with a ta 152 maybe as  wingman 2 hunters :)

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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 06 June 2019 - 02:09 PM, said:

 

From looking at the replays, that's exactly how it looks.  Maybe that why the necessary certs are only $32 to purchase?  For the Do-335, I think it was somewhere near $70 to get the tokens/certs necessary (I don't quite remember.)

 

 

Nope.  You can buy 150 certs for $32, but you need 249 certs for the plane.  About $54.  Plus tokens if you are planning on working some of the missions and it takes more than 2 days.

 


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View Postpoppavein, on 07 June 2019 - 11:21 AM, said:

 

Nope.  You can buy 150 certs for $32, but you need 249 certs for the plane.  About $54.  Plus tokens if you are planning on working some of the missions and it takes more than 2 days.

 

 

What a ripoff for what is, from what I've seen of it, a little bit underwhelming plane.

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