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_FLUGEL_ #41 Posted 08 June 2019 - 06:20 AM

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Apparently Ho 229's specialist MK 103 decreased both rof and damage compare to stock MK 103. Is this intended or a bug?

trikke #42 Posted 08 June 2019 - 10:06 PM

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or a typo
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View Postnwlxn12, on 05 June 2019 - 06:22 AM, said:

I don't have a magic answer on how WG can make this game bot free, but this change just confirms to me that bots are forever here to stay.  I guess I should thank them on making them better in this game that was never supposed to have them in the first place.

 

Maybe WG can make bot clans too so we can have clan battles.  Don't laugh!

 

The way you make the game bot free is to get enough human players into the game so that you no longer need to have bots fill the order of battle to prevent prohibitively long wait times in que.  

 

World of Tanks has over 10 million players, World of Warships over a million, World of Warplanes has thousands.  It's all about the math. 



BB3_Oregon_Steel #44 Posted 09 June 2019 - 12:16 AM

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Too bad my laptop's function keys don't work with WG's systems, this could be useful.  :(

White_Widow18 #45 Posted 09 June 2019 - 12:28 AM

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View PostBB3_Oregon_Steel, on 08 June 2019 - 06:16 PM, said:

Too bad my laptop's function keys don't work with WG's systems, this could be useful.  :(

 

if you have a numpad, remap to those, if you don't... can you remap to the number keys past the consumables?

 


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_FLUGEL_ #46 Posted 09 June 2019 - 04:07 AM

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View Posttrikke, on 08 June 2019 - 03:06 PM, said:

or a typo

 

Stock config Ho 229 fires 5 times before get overheated while Specialist config only fires 4 times and it fires slower, which suspects not just a typo but more like Devs messed up those stats after testing and did not update correctly before it goes to live server.

Edited by _FLUGEL_, 09 June 2019 - 04:13 AM.


wylleEcoyote #47 Posted 09 June 2019 - 07:09 AM

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View Post_FLUGEL_, on 08 June 2019 - 11:07 PM, said:

 

Stock config Ho 229 fires 5 times before get overheated while Specialist config only fires 4 times and it fires slower, which suspects not just a typo but more like Devs messed up those stats after testing and did not update correctly before it goes to live server.

 

That adds up with the math.
Its no typo. 

Strangely enough Blindfold IS reading this thread and has said nothing.

this.one of two things.
Thing 1) Someone at WeeGee going "DAMMIT IVAN! YOU HAD. ONE. [EDIT]. JOB." 

 Thing 2) Its not a bug, its a feature ...
This is not the first time i have heard of an upgrade that does not at first appear that way.
Spoiler


Perhaps the same thing has happened here?
Maybe some of the other soft stats for the specialist versions of the Mk 103's have changed for the better?
Auto hit deviation, different crit chance, shell velocity, etc. are the soft stats that come to mind.  

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is very hit or miss. Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.
Specialist Planes i have:
USA: XP-31, F1C-2, Model 81A-1, P-40, F4F, P-38F, P-39N-1, P-47B, P-38J, XF15C, XP-58  USSR: Tu-1  UK: DH.100 F1. Japan: not even once.
Germany: Fw 56, Hs 123, Ha 137, He 112, Bf 109 B, Bf 110 C-6, Do 17 Z, Bf 109 E, Bf 109 E-3, Ju 87 G, Fw 190 A-5, Me 410, Do 217 M, Me 265, Me209 A, Do 335 A-1, Me 1099 B-2


White_Widow18 #48 Posted 09 June 2019 - 07:14 AM

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View PostwylleEcoyote, on 09 June 2019 - 01:09 AM, said:

 

That adds up with the math.
Its no typo. 

Strangely enough Blindfold IS reading this thread and has said nothing.

this.one of two things.
Thing 1) Someone at WeeGee going "DAMMIT IVAN! YOU HAD. ONE. [EDIT]. JOB." 

 Thing 2) Its not a bug, its a feature ...
This is not the first time i have heard of an upgrade that does not at first appear that way.
Spoiler


Perhaps the same thing has happened here?
Maybe some of the other soft stats for the specialist versions of the Mk 103's have changed for the better?
Auto hit deviation, different crit chance, shell velocity, etc. are the soft stats that come to mind.  

 

Damage per shot as opposed to dps, has that changed?
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PoliticallyIncorrectName #49 Posted 09 June 2019 - 08:24 AM

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View PostblindfoId, on 06 June 2019 - 08:14 AM, said:

 

​Sure. Here  they are:

  • Fi-98 
  • F11C 
  • Ki-5 
  • Hs-123 
  • Wirraway 
  • BSh-1 
  • F2A-1 
  • I-16-29 
  • Ki-43-Ic 
  • Hurricane-IID 
  • Boomerang 
  • Ki-88 
  • Yak-3RD 

 

Is it possible to receive plane if I already own it?

If NO, do you get <another> plane?

If yes, do you get gold?


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_FLUGEL_ #50 Posted 09 June 2019 - 11:32 PM

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View PostwylleEcoyote, on 09 June 2019 - 12:09 AM, said:

 

That adds up with the math.
Its no typo. 

Strangely enough Blindfold IS reading this thread and has said nothing.

this.one of two things.
Thing 1) Someone at WeeGee going "DAMMIT IVAN! YOU HAD. ONE. [EDIT]. JOB." 

 Thing 2) Its not a bug, its a feature ...
This is not the first time i have heard of an upgrade that does not at first appear that way.
Spoiler


Perhaps the same thing has happened here?
Maybe some of the other soft stats for the specialist versions of the Mk 103's have changed for the better?
Auto hit deviation, different crit chance, shell velocity, etc. are the soft stats that come to mind.  

 

 

Mentioned case is for the regular tech tree vehicle, which I do understand upgrade is not straight buff to the specification. However Ho 229 is premium plane and does not have any upgrade available.  Also when I checked other premiums using MK 103, BV P.203 and Do 335, both specialist MK 103 is identical to the their stock config.

 

What I can think the best is whether Devs screwed up their code before finishing their work or this is really bad joke on relatively easy mission giveaway premium plane.

 

 

View PostWhite_Widow18, on 09 June 2019 - 12:14 AM, said:

 

Damage per shot as opposed to dps, has that changed?

 

I can't confirm the exact damage per shot got changed or not but I do feel when I shoot at LFs or bombers damage somehow bit lowers than I expected, also  I don't have access to the file on res folder and 3Dmodels does not say anything about either. However what I can confirm is RoF is clearly changed compared to the stock one.

 


Edited by _FLUGEL_, 09 June 2019 - 11:44 PM.


wylleEcoyote #51 Posted 10 June 2019 - 04:09 AM

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 09 June 2019 - 02:14 AM, said:

 

Damage per shot as opposed to dps, has that changed?

damage per shot appears the same. 

its the rate of fire/overheat cycle combination that gets the nerf

stock = 210 dps.  90 rof    950 range.
Shoots 5 times before overheat cycle
210/5 = 42 damage per shot.

Specialist = 175 dps   75 rof.   950 range
Shoots 4 times before a 'longer' overheat 
175/4 = 43.75 damage per shot.

 

View Post_FLUGEL_, on 09 June 2019 - 06:32 PM, said:

 

 

Mentioned case is for the regular tech tree vehicle, which I do understand upgrade is not straight buff to the specification. However Ho 229 is premium plane and does not have any upgrade available.  Also when I checked other premiums using MK 103, BV P.203 and Do 335, both specialist MK 103 is identical to the their stock config.

 

What I can think the best is whether Devs screwed up their code before finishing their work or this is really bad joke on relatively easy mission giveaway premium plane.

 

I can't confirm the exact damage per shot got changed or not but I do feel when I shoot at LFs or bombers damage somehow bit lowers than I expected, also  I don't have access to the file on res folder and 3Dmodels does not say anything about either. However what I can confirm is RoF is clearly changed compared to the stock one.

 


Its may be a joke.    But it is not a mistake.
Having an editor screwing up the text in the drop down menu does not change the gun stats.
Yet the gun DOES change. And the changes that were noticed do seem to match up with the text in the drop down menus.
Therefore we can presume this is intentional.

Blindfold is being pointedly silent about responding to this.
In spite of your many posts in many sections of the forum about this exact topic.

So whatever explains this involves something Blindfold is not allowed to comment about one way or another on the forum.
like for example soft stats.
So i am inclined to believe that the specialist guns have something unusual going on there.

Maybe its  shell velocity, sigma values of dispersion, size of the 'Auto-Hit' zone, chance of critical hit
Any one of which could be worth loosing 1 shot in 5 because of their capacity to make the other 4 shots so much more lethal.

 


Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is very hit or miss. Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.
Specialist Planes i have:
USA: XP-31, F1C-2, Model 81A-1, P-40, F4F, P-38F, P-39N-1, P-47B, P-38J, XF15C, XP-58  USSR: Tu-1  UK: DH.100 F1. Japan: not even once.
Germany: Fw 56, Hs 123, Ha 137, He 112, Bf 109 B, Bf 110 C-6, Do 17 Z, Bf 109 E, Bf 109 E-3, Ju 87 G, Fw 190 A-5, Me 410, Do 217 M, Me 265, Me209 A, Do 335 A-1, Me 1099 B-2


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View Post_FLUGEL_, on 08 June 2019 - 09:20 AM, said:

Apparently Ho 229's specialist MK 103 decreased both rof and damage compare to stock MK 103. Is this intended or a bug?

 

The issue has been reported to the team and they are looking into it, we are expecting a fix in the nearest patch.

 

View PostPoliticallyIncorrectName, on 09 June 2019 - 11:24 AM, said:

 

Is it possible to receive plane if I already own it?

If NO, do you get <another> plane?

If yes, do you get gold?

 

If you already have a plane you won't roll it - you'll simply get another prize from the list. 

BB3_Oregon_Steel #53 Posted 10 June 2019 - 10:31 PM

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 08 June 2019 - 04:28 PM, said:

 

if you have a numpad, remap to those, if you don't... can you remap to the number keys past the consumables?

 

 

That is a GREAT Idea :) 

wylleEcoyote #54 Posted 11 June 2019 - 05:53 AM

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View PostblindfoId, on 10 June 2019 - 07:58 AM, said:

 

The issue has been reported to the team and they are looking into it, we are expecting a fix in the nearest patch.

 

 

If you already have a plane you won't roll it - you'll simply get another prize from the list. 

 

Looks like Ivan is gonna get Gulag'd, after all.
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Good Job for getting the word out _FLUGEL_

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Edited by wylleEcoyote, 11 June 2019 - 05:56 AM.

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is very hit or miss. Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.
Specialist Planes i have:
USA: XP-31, F1C-2, Model 81A-1, P-40, F4F, P-38F, P-39N-1, P-47B, P-38J, XF15C, XP-58  USSR: Tu-1  UK: DH.100 F1. Japan: not even once.
Germany: Fw 56, Hs 123, Ha 137, He 112, Bf 109 B, Bf 110 C-6, Do 17 Z, Bf 109 E, Bf 109 E-3, Ju 87 G, Fw 190 A-5, Me 410, Do 217 M, Me 265, Me209 A, Do 335 A-1, Me 1099 B-2


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