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losttwo #1 Posted 19 May 2019 - 10:46 PM

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OK, part 3 was just like playing the normal game.

I have little problem with this third stage of the event.

 

The only problem I have is the split time for all these events.

The first part I had time to earn 100 gold.

Then the missions ended and I had to wait for part 2 of the 3rd section.

 

Much to my dismay all progress had been reset to - Do it all over dude.

Granted I had time enough to win 3oo gold this time.

 

This is really lame and unattractive game play.

Many people ( guessing here ) do not spend 8 to 24 hours playing a game.

Between jobs ( yeah, I still do not have one )

Fish that need to be cuaght

Deer that need to be shot.

Wife that needs to be....TMI

 

There are many games that cater to the casual average non addicted gamer.

WG is not one of those companies.

I think that would chase many people off.

You know, the idea that they really can not participate to achieve all the goodies.

Dangle a fishhook in the water long enough the bait tends to fall off.

We all know a bare hook catches nothing.

 

just my 2 cents.

 



TankNoob1960 #2 Posted 19 May 2019 - 11:51 PM

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The "CRATE MISSIONS" for EVERY CLASS are way out of whack..IMO

(This is AFTER having to get 5 wins in each class)

The missions have FIGHTERS DEFENDING CAPS for 1500 capture points

Ground Attack need 4000 CAP Points and BOMBERS need 4500 CAP Points..

This is WAY too much work for a simple crate that only yields something worthwhile about 1 in 8.

(I have yet to open a good one all weekend)

Also, these missions have pilots going all sorts of different directions with different motives.

Not good for "team  play" at all.

Just my 2 cents,

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Stygian_Alchemist #3 Posted 20 May 2019 - 12:02 AM

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It took me 16 battles total in a bomber to get the total package. 100 gold and 2 crates.

Seems fair to me, as that doubles as long as the server finishes the event.

Not every aspect of a game has to be for the casuals (most of this game is catered to your average casual, down to match lengths). If you don't leave something for the hardcore players it kills a game far faster. Ask World of WarCraft how catering to -only- casuals worked out.

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 19 May 2019 - 07:02 PM, said:

It took me 16 battles total in a bomber to get the total package. 100 gold and 2 crates.

Seems fair to me, as that doubles as long as the server finishes the event.

Not every aspect of a game has to be for the casuals (most of this game is catered to your average casual, down to match lengths). If you don't leave something for the hardcore players it kills a game far faster. Ask World of WarCraft how catering to -only- casuals worked out.

 

Yeah i think I did something like 20 games today, Fighter, Multi-role then Heavy.

While I may have all the time in the world to play this game I am not really that into it as I was.

I use to spend 8+ hours a day playing this game from Closed Beta to 1.9.

This game just is no longer that interesting or as fun.

 

I just could not handle trying to get crates after seeing what the other missions were.

More so because I lost all the progress from the other day.

Very disheartening and a kill joy.

 

I do try and get at least 20 games in a day and then go play my other games.

Maybe even take in a old Steve Reeves Movie.

 

The entire process is definitely a pick your poison event.

gold ,gold gold or gold and crate, or crate and barrel ( for the wife...lol )

 

But because of popularity problems and such. WG might do well to cater to the casual and average player base.

At least until they get more humans interested in fighting bots,

I am sure it would even generate more people willing to spend money.

The bottom line is always dollars and sense.



Bobby_Tables #5 Posted 20 May 2019 - 01:02 AM

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I. Literally. Cannot. Win. A. Battle.

 

Doing GA since it coincided with some Token missions.  Been stuck at 3/5 victories for the past day.  

 

Granted, I suck, but that much?  I dunno.

 



no_trace_of_sanity #6 Posted 20 May 2019 - 01:23 AM

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I've flown nothing but GA for the entire event, mainly grinding my last couple Il's to spec. I've seen it vary on how soon wins happen and long stretches between are, but i just keep going. My personal thought is it depends on what time of day you choose or can fly. Had games have 6 humans each team, to me being the only one at all. Just a roll of the dice as far as i see.

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View PostBobby_Tables, on 19 May 2019 - 05:02 PM, said:

I. Literally. Cannot. Win. A. Battle.

 

Doing GA since it coincided with some Token missions.  Been stuck at 3/5 victories for the past day.  

 

Granted, I suck, but that much?  I dunno.

 

 

You haven’t provided the appropriate sacrifices to RNGesus. 

 



Bobby_Tables #8 Posted 20 May 2019 - 01:52 AM

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View Postpoppavein, on 19 May 2019 - 07:28 PM, said:

 

You haven’t provided the appropriate sacrifices to RNGesus. 

 

 

Well, my graphics card crapped out on me just after typing this and trying to load the game.  RNGesus is not kind to me today.  

 

Uninstalled it, cleaned it, and all, it works now, but the fan does not sound healthy in the least.  What next RNGesus?  What next?



Captain_Underpants53 #9 Posted 20 May 2019 - 03:59 AM

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BOBBY!  You have been bad!  Repent!

 

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Seriously, I have been lower tier almost all day.  I wish I knew how to get at least a 50/50 split.


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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 19 May 2019 - 04:02 PM, said:

It took me 16 battles total in a bomber to get the total package. 100 gold and 2 crates.

Seems fair to me, as that doubles as long as the server finishes the event.

Not every aspect of a game has to be for the casuals (most of this game is catered to your average casual, down to match lengths). If you don't leave something for the hardcore players it kills a game far faster. Ask World of WarCraft how catering to -only- casuals worked out.

 

Hi WW18,

How did you get 5 wins,,THEN 4500 capture points, and a Red Comet Badge in 16 games?

I can see you getting the medal in 1 game, and even 5 wins in 5 games, but that would leave 10 games to amass 4500 capture points for the "personal contribution" part.

(450 X 10 exactly)

That part alone took me at least 50 games to get 4000 points in Ground Attack planes.

If we all need your hanger and your skill level to finish more than one of these secondary missions, it is not a well thought out event. ~ IMO

Be Well,

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Stygian_Alchemist #11 Posted 20 May 2019 - 05:21 AM

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View PostTankNoob1960, on 19 May 2019 - 10:00 PM, said:

 

Hi WW18,

How did you get 5 wins,,THEN 4500 capture points, and a Red Comet Badge in 16 games?

I can see you getting the medal in 1 game, and even 5 wins in 5 games, but that would leave 10 games to amass 4500 capture points for the "personal contribution" part.

(450 X 10 exactly)

That part alone took me at least 50 games to get 4000 points in Ground Attack planes.

If we all need your hanger and your skill level to finish more than one of these secondary missions, it is not a well thought out event. ~ IMO

Be Well,

Gunny

 

RB-17, I average close to 400 capture points a game in it... Ju 287, I average... more We'll leave that at that. Do217M I get around 400 average as well and the B-32 I push around 500ish.

16 games is, obviously, an outlier level of speed to accomplish it in.. but I also completed 3 full branches and almost the fourth. Fighter, Heavy Fighter, Bomber, and GAA was the one I didn't make it in time.

However, 16 games seems -reasonable- in terms of amount of effort.. so perhaps they should aim it at your -average- skill player being able to do it in say 15?

Just a thought/response.

Note: I found Heavy Fighter the single fastest. 5 wins and 2500 points attacking.. not real hard in a heavy fighter IMHO, but other classes were... much more grindy.

losttwo #12 Posted 20 May 2019 - 10:31 AM

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View PostTankNoob1960, on 19 May 2019 - 11:00 PM, said:

 

 

View PostWhite_Widow18, on 20 May 2019 - 12:21 AM, said:

 

 

Lets pull a rabbit out of the hat and take a wild guess on the personal time investment.

On average 1 game will take you about 8 minutes, not including hangar time.

Lets say most people take about 15 minutes per match.

That would be from selecting aircraft, reading missions, after report and whatever else.

 

We will take a guess and say a person can average 4-6 matches per hour.

Lets take the first requirement to get 100 gold which is 5 wins.

best case scenario would be 1 hour of play time to win 5 matches.

( yeah, took me about 4 hours to win 300 gold this Sunday )

 

Lets say the average person spends:

8 hours sleeping

8 hours working or school

3 hours combined of food, shower and what not's.

that leaves about 5 hours for gaming.

 

5 hours of gaming would be about 20-30 WOWP matches.

 

Well I do not work, I sleep about 4 hours

I will admit to stealing about 5 hours a day for the other junk:

   gardening, food, shower, housework, blah blah blah 3 kids so on and so on.

 

I have it easier than most people and I struggle to get 20 games a day in for WOWP.

So yeah my opinion is that WOWP is shooting themselves in the foot with these events.

People see them as UN-achieveable and would opt to fly lower tiers or not play at all.

Perhaps just do community events instead of wasting time.

 

just my thoughts on the subject.

 



losttwo #13 Posted 20 May 2019 - 11:16 AM

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Here is what I played for 300 gold.

Spoiler

 



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    The events lack creativity. How long are we going to be fed the same **** until the lemmings pop their heads up and realize that we might as well be eating cardboard. I was 100% right when I've said repeatedly that this game is going to slog on, barely making any real progress. In the meantime they give us recycled variations of the same old stuff mixed with some new planes. Here you go, be happy!

 

    They could not even give us 5 cap maps and strongholds, like in other stages. Instead it was pure conquest, nothing new. People spend hours each day and night of their lives on this game and there is actually very little meaning to the game other than some gold and cheap gifts. 

 

    Soggy milk toast. 

 

Cheers!

 

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View PostPrenzlau, on 20 May 2019 - 03:02 PM, said:

    The events lack creativity. How long are we going to be fed the same **** until the lemmings pop their heads up and realize that we might as well be eating cardboard. I was 100% right when I've said repeatedly that this game is going to slog on, barely making any real progress. In the meantime they give us recycled variations of the same old stuff mixed with some new planes. Here you go, be happy!

 

    They could not even give us 5 cap maps and strongholds, like in other stages. Instead it was pure conquest, nothing new. People spend hours each day and night of their lives on this game and there is actually very little meaning to the game other than some gold and cheap gifts. 

 

    Soggy milk toast. 

 

Cheers!

 

Prenzlau

 

Agreed.  I hardly played this weekend, but got a crate with the Tu-2 op order.  I might token through it, or play some, IDK.  But  I will say this - if you're not a casual player, cool.  The rest of us have jobs and kids and families and stuff, and can't spend the time screwing around with the stupid grinding.  Yes, I understand that it CAN be done.  But that's not what WG wants.  They want us to spend real money.  For some of us, we could completely do the F2P thing and come out fine. 

 

But for n00bs and casuals, stuff like this is a turn-off.  I enjoy attrition and bomber escort, and would have no problem if those modes were put in rotation.  But I think I am tired of these events.  I started to get funny during Albion, got a serious case of not caring during Flaming Sores, and REALLY do not care now.  

 

Do you know what I enjoy?  I enjoy mnbv_fockewulf's every other Saturday event.  Some great pilots show up, we have a bunch of fun chattering at one another, and even if I come out at the absolute bottom of the player list, I know that I can hang with the best pilots in the game, and all the other time I spend playing is to support that time in the training room.  While I would probably get banned for telling WG to GFY, I might think it while these events are going on.  Not merely because it is a naked cash grab.  But also because you get folks like W_W18 telling us the grind is no big deal, when in reality, for most people with an actual life outside of sitting in front of a keyboard pushing pixels around, doing anything in an event is actually a big deal, which takes time and effort.



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It's funny... everyone whinged the event modes were trash.. so WG gave us one based around normal matches.. everyone whinges.

Other people talk about things needing nerfed... and several of the people in this thread throw giant bloody fits.

Now its you whingeing for a Nerf.

3 hours of time to complete it. 3 hours for an event.. :)

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If that's too tough for you, maybe you should go play a phone game.

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 20 May 2019 - 03:19 PM, said:

It's funny... everyone whinged the event modes were trash.. so WG gave us one based around normal matches.. everyone whinges.

Other people talk about things needing nerfed... and several of the people in this thread throw giant bloody fits.

Now its you whingeing for a Nerf.

3 hours of time to complete it. 3 hours for an event.. :)

:popcorn:

If that's too tough for you, maybe you should go play a phone game.

 

Where can I find your meds ? I need some of what you're taking.

Just re-read all the responses again.

Who is asking for nerfs ?

What's with the 3 hour thingy ?

 

Have you even read any of the comments. :popcorn::trollface:



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View Postlosttwo, on 20 May 2019 - 04:30 PM, said:

 

Where can I find your meds ? I need some of what you're taking.

Just re-read all the responses again.

Who is asking for nerfs ?

What's with the 3 hour thingy ?

 

Have you even read any of the comments. :popcorn::trollface:

 

I've read everything, so far most people in here are complaining its too hard and requesting it to be made easier. That's a nerf by definition. I think you forgot to clean the white out of your lightbulb before partaking and then responding, if you catch my drift. It's hilarious to watch, honestly. So is your attempt at deflection and usage of ableism in the attempt.

Your initial post was nothing but a complaint about how much time it took you and how you wanted it to cater to -you- as a casual. Which flies in the face of your usual position about things needing to be made easier.

Like I said, if its too hard and requires too much commitment. Maybe go play a phone game? Farmville perhaps?

Otherwise *shrug* maybe next time someone talks about how something is too difficult for them you could consider that you yourself have taken that position on something? Just a thought.

Side-note: This thread is also quite amusing given that I know at least one of these people in this thread has said "play more, forum less" on multiple occasions.. but seems incapable of taking that advice themselves.

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 20 May 2019 - 06:20 PM, said:

 

I've read everything, so far most people in here are complaining its too hard and requesting it to be made easier. That's a nerf by definition. I think you forgot to clean the white out of your lightbulb before partaking and then responding, if you catch my drift. It's hilarious to watch, honestly. So is your attempt at deflection and usage of ableism in the attempt.

Your initial post was nothing but a complaint about how much time it took you and how you wanted it to cater to -you- as a casual. Which flies in the face of your usual position about things needing to be made easier.

Like I said, if its too hard and requires too much commitment. Maybe go play a phone game? Farmville perhaps?

Otherwise *shrug* maybe next time someone talks about how something is too difficult for them you could consider that you yourself have taken that position on something? Just a thought.

Side-note: This thread is also quite amusing given that I know at least one of these people in this thread has said "play more, forum less" on multiple occasions.. but seems incapable of taking that advice themselves.

 

I do recall my original post is and I quote

 "The only problem I have is the split time for all these events."

and I explained why I see it as a problem.

 

Nothing in there about difficulty.

On any of the postings

 

 

 


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View Postlosttwo, on 20 May 2019 - 11:57 PM, said:

 

I do recall my original post is and I quote

 "The only problem I have is the split time for all these events."

and I explained why I see it as a problem.

 

Nothing in there about difficulty.

On any of the postings

 

 

 

 

She has a small chip on her shoulder.  Don't mind her.  Sort of a MARS_JR, if you get my drift.





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