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losttwo #1 Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:01 AM

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I personally really miss the per plane win percentage listing.

Yes I know it can be found on the Clan Page but sometimes you just do not want to visit the clan page.

You just click on the Stat page and boom it is listed. At the same time you are looking at your other stats.

 

How many of you would like to have the win rate % stat returned.

Yes I do like the current system but would just like to have the additional win rate per plane.

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Edited by losttwo, 16 May 2019 - 10:02 AM.


losttwo #2 Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:06 AM

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For those of you that do not know or are confused.

This is the current system:

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EZP_MRKARP #3 Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:32 AM

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win rates mean nothing  now,the game has been rigged since 2.0

losttwo #4 Posted 16 May 2019 - 11:02 AM

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View PostEZP_MRKARP, on 16 May 2019 - 05:32 AM, said:

win rates mean nothing  now,the game has been rigged since 2.0

 

While that may be true and I do agree with you.

It would be nice to get the ball rolling in case they are successful in bringing back the PvP mode.

 

Currently the overall win rate just simply lets everyone know how well you play against bots

and or how many full bot matches you can win versus a less than handful of players match.

 

 



HoujuuNue #5 Posted 16 May 2019 - 11:12 AM

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It's kind of irrelevant because you can change planes if you have an air base

trikke #6 Posted 16 May 2019 - 11:36 AM

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i'm so thankful that hit percentage is hidden now              that's the one stat that kept me up at night          
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Noreaga #7 Posted 16 May 2019 - 02:44 PM

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View PostHoujuuNue, on 16 May 2019 - 06:12 AM, said:

It's kind of irrelevant because you can change planes if you have an air base

 

that's a good point, never thought about it that way. 

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Dreamer_Z #8 Posted 16 May 2019 - 05:14 PM

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Odd how Noreaga has 8 battles and 3k posts.  Learn to play the game !!!!!!!

 

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losttwo #9 Posted 16 May 2019 - 05:57 PM

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View PostDreamer_Z, on 16 May 2019 - 12:14 PM, said:

Odd how Noreaga has 8 battles and 3k posts.  Learn to play the game !!!!!!!

 

hiya Noreaga :]]

 

phttt...look lost one is trolling lost three.

Do you all need me to send you map coordinates to locate the battle field ?



losttwo #10 Posted 16 May 2019 - 06:00 PM

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View PostHoujuuNue, on 16 May 2019 - 06:12 AM, said:

It's kind of irrelevant because you can change planes if you have an air base

 

Good and valid point.

Best fix would be to stop people from being able to do that.

Just let the airstrips repair planes.:hiding:


Edited by losttwo, 16 May 2019 - 06:00 PM.


Noreaga #11 Posted 16 May 2019 - 06:06 PM

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View PostDreamer_Z, on 16 May 2019 - 12:14 PM, said:

Odd how Noreaga has 8 battles and 3k posts.  Learn to play the game !!!!!!!

 

hiya Noreaga :]]

 

ha hi dreamer.. yeah enjoying the forum game since 1.6. Also you can pause the forum and go take care of the baby. So many games nothing to play :D

 

To be fair to me majority of those were from before i stopped playing. What gets me are the profile hits why on earth would people click on my account that many times? I can't be that interesting (my posts sure aren't).


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GeorgePatton #12 Posted 16 May 2019 - 08:07 PM

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Two things - one on-topic the other a little off-topic...

 

If they have individual win rates on the clan page, it should be available across all statistical platforms (and we should be able to see rocket frags...).

 

Second thing, I don't really understand the switching planes thing - do we get experience on both planes evenly? Majority of experience on the plane we started the battle on? Ended the battle on? Why don't I get specialization points on the second plane I went up in? So many questions...

 

 

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Captain_Rownd #13 Posted 16 May 2019 - 08:21 PM

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A player should only be able to see their own stats.  I enjoy the lack of toxic stat shaming nonsense here. 

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Captain_Underpants53 #14 Posted 16 May 2019 - 09:54 PM

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View PostGeorgePatton, on 16 May 2019 - 03:07 PM, said:

Two things - one on-topic the other a little off-topic...

 

If they have individual win rates on the clan page, it should be available across all statistical platforms (and we should be able to see rocket frags...).

 

Second thing, I don't really understand the switching planes thing - do we get experience on both planes evenly? Majority of experience on the plane we started the battle on? Ended the battle on? Why don't I get specialization points on the second plane I went up in? So many questions...

 

 

Cheers!
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Edit: Hey Dreamer! Good to see you, man!

 

The clan page is rife with errors and has been for a year and a half.  They 'are aware of it' and 'are working on it' for a year and a half.  Just for one instance, I personally have 262 planes.  The clan page claims we have 272 planes.  That means the other 43 clan members are sharing 10 planes.  Must be a fuss when everyone wants to fly at one time.
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GeorgePatton #15 Posted 17 May 2019 - 12:00 AM

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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 16 May 2019 - 04:54 PM, said:

 

The clan page is rife with errors and has been for a year and a half.  They 'are aware of it' and 'are working on it' for a year and a half.  Just for one instance, I personally have 262 planes.  The clan page claims we have 272 planes.  That means the other 43 clan members are sharing 10 planes.  Must be a fuss when everyone wants to fly at one time.

 

It's possible that it only counts planes that people have flown?

 

 

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wylleEcoyote #16 Posted 17 May 2019 - 03:12 AM

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View PostHoujuuNue, on 16 May 2019 - 06:12 AM, said:

It's kind of irrelevant because you can change planes if you have an air base

 

hmm in the picture the circled data points show the number of times you fly the plane. and then in shows the number of times you started a whole battle with that particular plane.  Maybe they gave some thought to the chance that planes change in battle.
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Let me sum up the discussion and provide some answers :)

 

1. We do have plane W/R which is shown currently only oin clan portal. There was a thought to remove it when clan portal was under maintenance so it would correlate with the statistics available in your profile on the portal but this stats remained (I mean plane W/R) based on your feedback as many of you were and are interested in this particular numbers. Whether this information will be added to the profile page or not is still a question of discussion.

2. Initially, plane W/R was removed from profiles due to possibility to change planes on Airbase during the battle as HoujuuNue correctly says. Let's say, you chose the Hurricane, then changed it for A6M3 and win a game. Which aircraft should get that win?

3. Regarding clan portal statistics, Captain_Underpants53, here GeorgePatton is absolutely right. Only planes that have been flown count towards these numbers. 

4. wylleEcoyote has a good point here! Current statistics in player's profile shows how many sorties a particular plane has and how many times it was chosen to start a battle. 



Stygian_Alchemist #18 Posted 17 May 2019 - 11:16 AM

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View PostblindfoId, on 17 May 2019 - 03:52 AM, said:

2. Initially, plane W/R was removed from profiles due to possibility to change planes on Airbase during the battle as HoujuuNue correctly says. Let's say, you chose the Hurricane, then changed it for A6M3 and win a game. Which aircraft should get that win?


Which plane earned the most base XP seems the fairest way to decide that/the only sane way. Your only other option would be to decimal place wins and give a plane decimal of a win. I.E. 0.33 or 0.20 or... whatever of a win. 

I shouldn't think it would be hard to calculate it as a decimal place of a win and award that and it would be -super- simple to just award the win to the plane that garnered the most points and zero out the increase in battle count on the planes that scored below first (Just don't count that in their win % tally as a loss or a win, don't count it at all).
 



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View PostGeorgePatton, on 16 May 2019 - 07:00 PM, said:

 

It's possible that it only counts planes that people have flown?

 

 

Cheers!
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It's more than possible, it's the way it is but I have flown most of them at least once.  Several that I have flown in Tier X repeatedly are not shown also.

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Captain_Underpants53 #20 Posted 17 May 2019 - 11:47 AM

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View PostblindfoId, on 17 May 2019 - 04:52 AM, said:

Let me sum up the discussion and provide some answers :)

 

1. We do have plane W/R which is shown currently only oin clan portal. There was a thought to remove it when clan portal was under maintenance so it would correlate with the statistics available in your profile on the portal but this stats remained (I mean plane W/R) based on your feedback as many of you were and are interested in this particular numbers. Whether this information will be added to the profile page or not is still a question of discussion.

2. Initially, plane W/R was removed from profiles due to possibility to change planes on Airbase during the battle as HoujuuNue correctly says. Let's say, you chose the Hurricane, then changed it for A6M3 and win a game. Which aircraft should get that win?

3. Regarding clan portal statistics, Captain_Underpants53, here GeorgePatton is absolutely right. Only planes that have been flown count towards these numbers. 

4. wylleEcoyote has a good point here! Current statistics in player's profile shows how many sorties a particular plane has and how many times it was chosen to start a battle. 

 

Regarding clan portal statistics, since you brought it up, why are the # 1 and #3 ranked clans in their position?  If you look at their Average Battles per Day, supposedly a major factor, they do almost no flying.
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