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legoboy0401 #1 Posted 22 April 2019 - 06:27 PM

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My pick, at least so far, would have to be the LaGG-3. Immensely underpowered, and while it can get some success top-tier and with no better Tier Vs in the match with it(a EXCEEDINGLY rare occurrence), it is more like a Tier 4.5 even elite, and it just doesn't really have anything going for it: Speed? Nope. It has turnfighter speed, which means it's, you guessed it, slow. Maneuverability? Not really, no, it's only a few 10ths of a second better than the best Boom&Zoom planes, which are much faster than it, and it's nowhere near the likes of either Japanese Fighter line, the Spitfire line, or even the Yak Fighter line. Firepower? This is this thing's biggest letdown. With poor maneuverability, you'd expect it to at least have high DPS so it doesn't have to tail-camp forever(which, against most opponents, for various reasons it can't do) to take out a single enemy but NO. NOPE. That's not at all what you get. You get 1 12.7 M, and one quick-overheating 20(when stock) or 23(when elite). Yes, the Yak-1 at the same tier has ever-so-slightly-worse firepower, but it can at least tail-camp to some degree in a way that the LaGG-3 simply cannot, and believe me I've tried to do so with the LaGG-3. HP? Uh, NO, it has turnfighter HP, which is to say, very little. Good flight characteristics? Absolutely not. It loves to stall in even slightly unusual maneuvers which incorporate even the tiniest of of shallow climbing, even with emptying the entire boost.

 

I have no idea why this plane is allowed to be so woefully underpowered, but I know for a fact that it is. Moreover, it's underpowered to the point of pointlessness, like(this is absolutely true, by the way) you are actively gimping any teams you might get on by choosing to play it.

 

 

What would you guys nominate for the most underpowered, pointless/irrelevant tech tree plane? I'd love to hear them.

 

 

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Captain_Underpants53 #2 Posted 22 April 2019 - 06:38 PM

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I don't know but I do know who I would nominate for the most pointless/irrelevant forum poster.
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legoboy0401 #3 Posted 22 April 2019 - 06:55 PM

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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 22 April 2019 - 10:38 AM, said:

I don't know but I do know who I would nominate for the most pointless/irrelevant forum poster.

Fair enough. Do quit your trolling though.

 

Do you disagree with my nomination for the most underpowered and pointless/irrelevant plane in the game? Then say so.

 

Do you not care? Then why did you bother coming over to this thread and posting anyway? If you have nothing to add but trolling, there's no point in you being on this thread at all. Leave.


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LMG #4 Posted 22 April 2019 - 07:38 PM

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Out of the ones I've tried, I'll probably give it to the F4F. It's not fast enough to BnZ planes that turn better, and it's not agile enough to turn with planes that are faster. Flying it felt pretty bad, to the point I didn't bother getting the rockets.

 

When it comes to non-tech tree planes that I've flown, the Hs 129 A (Duckling) is probably my pick. It's the worst tier 4 GAA, combining the worst aspects of GAAs while bringing nothing unique to the game. It can still work since it still meets the bare minimum requirements to ground pound, but it's basically a worse BSh-2 :ohmy:


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Master_Cylinder #5 Posted 22 April 2019 - 07:39 PM

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now that they have nerffed the Pancake it is not the plane it use to be, from floor to celing at one time, not any more

 



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View PostMaster_Cylinder, on 22 April 2019 - 11:39 AM, said:

now that they have nerffed the Pancake it is not the plane it use to be, from floor to celing at one time, not any more

 

 

Okay? Surely it does something still well, does it not now? I wouldn't know though so I'll let someone with actual firsthand knowledge of its current state fact-check your statement.


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legoboy0401 #7 Posted 22 April 2019 - 08:02 PM

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View PostLMG, on 22 April 2019 - 11:38 AM, said:

Out of the ones I've tried, I'll probably give it to the F4F. It's not fast enough to BnZ planes that turn better, and it's not agile enough to turn with planes that are faster. Flying it felt pretty bad, to the point I didn't bother getting the rockets.

 

When it comes to non-tech tree planes that I've flown, the Hs 129 A (Duckling) is probably my pick. It's the worst tier 4 GAA, combining the worst aspects of GAAs while bringing nothing unique to the game. It can still work since it still meets the bare minimum requirements to ground pound, but it's basically a worse BSh-2 :ohmy:

 

So the firepower, health, and handling characteristics of the F4F are all average/subpar as well, or did I not read you right?


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View Postlegoboy0401, on 22 April 2019 - 03:02 PM, said:

So the firepower, health, and handling characteristics of the F4F are all average/subpar as well, or did I not read you right?

 

From my limited experience, it's a plane that doesn't quite do anything right, nor is it versatile enough to be a jack-of-all-trades. You basically have a subpar multirole in almost every category


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legoboy0401 #9 Posted 22 April 2019 - 09:58 PM

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View PostLMG, on 22 April 2019 - 01:51 PM, said:

 

From my limited experience, it's a plane that doesn't quite do anything right, nor is it versatile enough to be a jack-of-all-trades. You basically have a subpar multirole in almost every category

 

Huh, that's exactly the problem with the LaGG-3 as well. How did the two of them end up in such a dismal state I wonder? I know at sometime in the past the tech tree LaGG-3 lost a lot of its firepower and it was taken and made into a premium, the LaGG-3(4) at Tier IV, but how did the F4F get to be so bad I wonder.

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Captain_Rownd #10 Posted 22 April 2019 - 10:22 PM

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Fw 190 A-1 and Ki-43-II get my votes for being weaksauce

 

I still have my LaGG-3 in my hangar, so I liked it enough to keep flying it but I may have scavenged the pilot for another plane.  But I fly the LaGG-3 (34) Flying DERPski a lot, so my LaGG-3 fix gets filled another way in the limited time I have.

 

 


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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 22 April 2019 - 01:38 PM, said:

I don't know but I do know who I would nominate for the most pointless/irrelevant forum poster.

um... Mr C. U. Pants...

what am I, chopped liver?

 


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even post-nerf, the Pancake can still do work.  The good games still happen, just not as frequently.

 

Of the tech tree planes that I've flown, the Fw-190 A1 may have been the biggest frustration of the lot.  (but I'm far from a comprehensive sample, pretty much just US and German fighters, heavies and bombers as the tech trees go.)



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View PostCaptain_Rownd, on 22 April 2019 - 02:22 PM, said:

Fw 190 A-1 and Ki-43-II get my votes for being weaksauce

 

I still have my LaGG-3 in my hangar, so I liked it enough to keep flying it but I may have scavenged the pilot for another plane.  But I fly the LaGG-3 (34) Flying DERPski a lot, so my LaGG-3 fix gets filled another way in the limited time I have.

 

 

 

You have the 37 mm-armed Tier V? Cool. But those two planes, ouch, yeah, Tier V does have a lot of weak planes. My major criticism of the Ki line from Tier II-V is they just seem like weaker-armed Zeroes, with almost no positive traits to that might entice someone to take a Ki at one of those Tiers over a IJN Navy Light Fighter line equivalent at the same Tier. I hear good things about the Tier VII and VIII in the line, and not-too-bad things about the Tier VI, but the Tier II-V(and the Tier IV Chinese premium Ki-43-I)people just don't really like.

 

As far as I can tell, the Fw 190 A-1's primary weakness is a lack of a punchy armament, an issue which also plagues the Ki-43-II and the LaGG-3 at the same tier.


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F2A Buffalo...no wait. Nevermind! :facepalm:

 

I saw someone get a high score in the M. 20 Miles, I was astounded. Plane leaves a lot to be desired. 

My vote is the FW252, does not compete in any way against any Tier 10 plane. Slow, clumsy, bad guns. 


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View Postlegoboy0401, on 22 April 2019 - 01:55 PM, said:

Fair enough. Do quit your trolling though.

 

Do you disagree with my nomination for the most underpowered and pointless/irrelevant plane in the game? Then say so.

 

Do you not care? Then why did you bother coming over to this thread and posting anyway? If you have nothing to add but trolling, there's no point in you being on this thread at all. Leave.

 

I must say, class act response Lego! Good for you. :honoring:


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legoboy0401 #16 Posted 22 April 2019 - 11:12 PM

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View PostBuffaloTime, on 22 April 2019 - 02:39 PM, said:

F2A Buffalo...no wait. Nevermind! :facepalm:

 

I saw someone get a high score in the M. 20 Miles, I was astounded. Plane leaves a lot to be desired. 

My vote is the FW252, does not compete in any way against any Tier 10 plane. Slow, clumsy, bad guns. 

 

Oh yes, the 252. SpiritFoxMY would have to agree with you. It's funny though, that most all our nominations share one common theme: slow, clumsy, bad guns. I wonder why...

 

The M.20? Oh yeah, that thing. The CAC-Boomerang does practically everything better. What's even the point of it being in the game in the first place?


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Chuck_norris10 #17 Posted 22 April 2019 - 11:13 PM

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Ask the same question in 6 months and you will get different answers because one day you got rockets,next patch you dont and expect nerfing on any plane that is good because it has happened since the game went open.

Every one flys each bird differently,some are good in crap planes because of experience and some cant do good in a good plane because they think it should do good. So just get as many as you can and mix it up.

 

 


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View PostChuck_norris10, on 22 April 2019 - 03:13 PM, said:

Ask the same question in 6 months and you will get different answers because one day you got rockets,next patch you dont and expect nerfing on any plane that is good because it has happened since the game went open.

 

 

Oh, I know planes will be nerfed, but these planes, these planes are just about irredeemable. They are in a class of their own when it comes to sucking. These are planes to avoid playing at all costs, because not only are they terrible, they are an uninteresting kind of bad. They're not even bad in a quirky way, they're just bad, in a kind of way as to provoke almost no emotion at all, except maybe frustration from the player playing them. You can't even love to hate them, they are just so... ...boring in their uncompetitiveness.

 

That is what defines the most underpowered and pointless/irrelevant planes in the game. They truly are good at nothing, and that includes evoking emotion out of people for the most part as well.

 

As for them staying terrible, I have not seen any recent movements from WG indicating that they might be interested in buffing any of these, so I'm guessing it's pretty likely that they will stay terrible for quite some time longer.

 


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View Postlegoboy0401, on 22 April 2019 - 04:24 PM, said:

 

Oh, I know planes will be nerfed, but these planes, these planes are just about irredeemable. They are in a class of their own when it comes to sucking. These are planes to avoid playing at all costs, because not only are they terrible, they are an uninteresting kind of bad. They're not even bad in a quirky way, they're just bad, in a kind of way as to provoke almost no emotion at all, except maybe frustration from the player playing them. You can't even love to hate them, they are just so... ...boring in their uncompetitiveness.

 

That is what defines the most underpowered and pointless/irrelevant planes in the game. They truly are good at nothing, and that includes evoking emotion out of people for the most part as well.

 

As for them staying terrible, I have not seen any recent movements from WG indicating that they might be interested in buffing any of these, so I'm guessing it's pretty likely that they will stay terrible for quite some time longer.

 

 

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View PostChuck_norris10, on 22 April 2019 - 03:32 PM, said:

 

What sucks today may not tomorrow. 

 

 

Of course, and that's a great argument for never selling premiums, no matter how bad they might be(a position I have long held), but for tech tree planes? I'm not so sure.

 

Not saying that it's impossible, only that one can always buy them back with enough credits.


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