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Captain
White_Widow18, on 12 April 2019 - 01:15 PM, said:
Not in a TU-1 though. Shot down by one and spiralled into the ground.. Yes.
Captain
Prenzlau, on 12 April 2019 - 02:23 PM, said:
Corvus....
I'm thinking you are not half as bad as I thought you deserved to be.
The Z & P "NO WIN ZONE" applies to everyone. Try not to get stuck in it.
Cheers!
Prenzlau
Z & P is a thing again? How long this time?
Command Chief Master Sergeant
Captain_Underpants53, on 12 April 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:
Z & P is a thing again? How long this time?
Oh damn, looks like the Captain is gonna have to bust out a new set of underoos.
Second Lieutenant
Perco_lator, on 12 April 2019 - 05:44 PM, said:
Oh damn, looks like the Captain is gonna have to bust out a new set of underoos.
I swear on a previous post he said his wife buys him third hand Garanimals so he can match stuff.
Not that that helps with the Sharts that inevitably result from seeing Z&P in the pixel sky, but at least he looks nice.
Edited by Bobby_Tables, 13 April 2019 - 12:20 AM.
Second Lieutenant
Captain_Underpants53, on 12 April 2019 - 04:54 PM, said:
Z & P is a thing again? How long this time?
Captain always has had "Bomber Envy" because our bombers are always better and maybe somewhat longer.
He is also still probably still upset and maybe a little traumatized when I flew over the top of him and his bomber exploded from my bomb drop. Oppsy!
My mine... you hear... my mine!!! All mine! Don't fly over my mine! It's mine.
Prenzlau
Captain
I response to the actual topic:
I own this plane, and have flown it with the stock crew and minimal equipment. Even downtiered (at T7 vs. T8), this thing is a brute.
1.) Bombers of all stripes beware. If I give this thing a speed build, and give the pilot all the engine points, I think I can make this guy keep up with almost any aircraft at-tier, and hold it's own against T8 enemies, even the RB-17. At 1000m, the twin 50mm cannon absolutely delete aircraft. ADA? What ADA?
2.) One of the benefits of running a higher-tier GAA is the fact that you can count on a high-skill gunner to keep HF at bay, or at least crit them so you can turn and use your cannon on them. Not with this guy. It can stand off and just zap you until you're dead. No bomb-trapping, no weaving around to get cannons on target. By the time you turn, this plane is already out of range.
I am looking forward to hunting human players in this plane.
Second Lieutenant
CorvusCorvax, on 12 April 2019 - 06:17 PM, said:
I response to the actual topic:
I own this plane, and have flown it with the stock crew and minimal equipment. Even downtiered (at T7 vs. T8), this thing is a brute.
1.) Bombers of all stripes beware. If I give this thing a speed build, and give the pilot all the engine points, I think I can make this guy keep up with almost any aircraft at-tier, and hold it's own against T8 enemies, even the RB-17. At 1000m, the twin 50mm cannon absolutely delete aircraft. ADA? What ADA?
2.) One of the benefits of running a higher-tier GAA is the fact that you can count on a high-skill gunner to keep HF at bay, or at least crit them so you can turn and use your cannon on them. Not with this guy. It can stand off and just zap you until you're dead. No bomb-trapping, no weaving around to get cannons on target. By the time you turn, this plane is already out of range.
I am looking forward to hunting human players in this plane.
Not yet lost a third of your health from a Ki-93 from 1,200 meters away in it, have you? What do you think? Is it simply strong, or does it need nerfs of some kind because it's too strong?
Is it meh, gud, or overpowered on the Angry YouTuber rating system? We know already it isn't a "garbage" on that scale, that much is already evident.
An average player with an average goal: greatness, someday. Today, mediocrity will have to suffice. But no matter, I will always play to the best of my ability, and I will always strive to make the best of my ability just that little bit stronger and better.
#Failureisalwaysanoption
#Givingupneveris
First Lieutenant
CorvusCorvax, on 12 April 2019 - 08:17 PM, said:
I response to the actual topic:
I own this plane, and have flown it with the stock crew and minimal equipment. Even downtiered (at T7 vs. T8), this thing is a brute.
1.) Bombers of all stripes beware. If I give this thing a speed build, and give the pilot all the engine points, I think I can make this guy keep up with almost any aircraft at-tier, and hold it's own against T8 enemies, even the RB-17. At 1000m, the twin 50mm cannon absolutely delete aircraft. ADA? What ADA?
2.) One of the benefits of running a higher-tier GAA is the fact that you can count on a high-skill gunner to keep HF at bay, or at least crit them so you can turn and use your cannon on them. Not with this guy. It can stand off and just zap you until you're dead. No bomb-trapping, no weaving around to get cannons on target. By the time you turn, this plane is already out of range.
I am looking forward to hunting human players in this plane.
It really -is- a fun plane. I figure with sights and long barrels.... well.... I'll be able to delete things at an asinine range. That 30 fire rate is a whole new thing to have to learn.
legoboy0401, on 12 April 2019 - 08:46 PM, said:
Not yet lost a third of your health from a Ki-93 from 1,200 meters away in it, have you? What do you think? Is it simply strong, or does it need nerfs of some kind because it's too strong?
Is it meh, gud, or overpowered on the Angry YouTuber rating system? We know already it isn't a "garbage" on that scale, that much is already evident.
It has plenty of ways to be beaten, but I would suggest you learn to watch your minimap if this is in the air, because it is not a plane that you can easily react-kill. It will have range on you, it will have single slam punch on you. If you understand how to fight a long-range class, you should understand that concept. Because this plane is an actual sniper-style plane. That gives it LOTS of vulnerabilities for the strengths it gets. Not least of which is that painfully low fire rate and the very low shot count out of the heat cycle. Also... talk of "Nerfing" a plane that's been out for 2 days is... illogical.
Captain
legoboy0401, on 13 April 2019 - 02:46 AM, said:
Not yet lost a third of your health from a Ki-93 from 1,200 meters away in it, have you? What do you think? Is it simply strong, or does it need nerfs of some kind because it's too strong?
Is it meh, gud, or overpowered on the Angry YouTuber rating system? We know already it isn't a "garbage" on that scale, that much is already evident.
Having flown it all of one battle, I am not going to even pretend to give it a rating. My one outing turned out well, but this plane could be WAY better with the right equipment and pilot. WAY better. And when the new equipment comes, it will be able to sneak up on folks, then zap them.
Second Lieutenant
CorvusCorvax, on 12 April 2019 - 07:43 PM, said:
Logic and LegoMyEggo are not compatible.
I was asking if it is too strong and thus therefore might need nerfs, or is it instead just fine balance-wise? That is all.
I was not asking for nerfs to it yet. I don't even know if it needs them or not. The latter is more than likely, actually.
An average player with an average goal: greatness, someday. Today, mediocrity will have to suffice. But no matter, I will always play to the best of my ability, and I will always strive to make the best of my ability just that little bit stronger and better.
#Failureisalwaysanoption
#Givingupneveris
Second Lieutenant
CorvusCorvax, on 12 April 2019 - 07:42 PM, said:
Having flown it all of one battle, I am not going to even pretend to give it a rating. My one outing turned out well, but this plane could be WAY better with the right equipment and pilot. WAY better. And when the new equipment comes, it will be able to sneak up on folks, then zap them.
I think that's why Special Project Engine Protection and Special Project Turret Gunsight have been introduced. Can you imagine a already top-of-the-line, up-to-date, maximum defense build B-32 with Special Project Turret Gunsight? Ouch, kiss good-bye to any Heavy Fighters with medium-ranged weapons as their furthest reaching weapons.
Three words: RANGE, glorious RANGE.
An average player with an average goal: greatness, someday. Today, mediocrity will have to suffice. But no matter, I will always play to the best of my ability, and I will always strive to make the best of my ability just that little bit stronger and better.
#Failureisalwaysanoption
#Givingupneveris
Second Lieutenant
White_Widow18, on 12 April 2019 - 06:59 PM, said:
It really -is- a fun plane. I figure with sights and long barrels.... well.... I'll be able to delete things at an asinine range. That 30 fire rate is a whole new thing to have to learn.
It has plenty of ways to be beaten, but I would suggest you learn to watch your minimap if this is in the air, because it is not a plane that you can easily react-kill. It will have range on you, it will have single slam punch on you. If you understand how to fight a long-range class, you should understand that concept. Because this plane is an actual sniper-style plane. That gives it LOTS of vulnerabilities for the strengths it gets. Not least of which is that painfully low fire rate and the very low shot count out of the heat cycle. Also... talk of "Nerfing" a plane that's been out for 2 days is... illogical.
Yeah, I already know what that kind of plane is like to fight. Basically it's the Ki-93 all over again.
Never said the Tu-1 needed nerfing. Only asked you how strong you think it is, and if you think it is too strong or not.
An average player with an average goal: greatness, someday. Today, mediocrity will have to suffice. But no matter, I will always play to the best of my ability, and I will always strive to make the best of my ability just that little bit stronger and better.
#Failureisalwaysanoption
#Givingupneveris
First Lieutenant
legoboy0401, on 12 April 2019 - 10:10 PM, said:
Yeah, I already know what that kind of plane is like to fight. Basically it's the Ki-93 all over again.
Never said the Tu-1 needed nerfing. Only asked you how strong you think it is, and if you think it is too strong or not.
You asked if it needed nerfs of some kind. My response is still that its too early to even consider that.
First Lieutenant
I have this now, played 3 battles so far.
Stuck in some of my best crew (its a Premium -> can put any Soviet crew in there)
Its OK but not amazing.
Feels a lot like Bf-110-C6: a kinda lumbering yet floaty feel to it that makes it seem not that quick, long range hard hitting gun(s) but is a bit tricky to dial-in & aim confused by the 2ndary guns. (I've not managed to get dedicated primary fire button to work well)
First battle I was staying high trying to kill Bombers & getting annoyingly competed with by a P-51 & a Bf-109Z for a lot of it, the 109Z is much quicker & seemed to be doing most of the damage.
Later split off from them & was having a hard time landing hits on other planes.
2nd battle definitely felt pretty 110-C6 but I actually don't remember details much (not enough sleep!), did land some good hits, missed a bunch of others though.
3rd battle I had my aim in a lot better & got some real nice alpha hits.
While the top speed isn't that great I'm actually getting round the map pretty quickly, sustaining 650km/h easy level with blips of boost and 700 with a little dive. (running Improved Uprated Engine, Improved Mixture Control, pilot with both Engine Gurus)
Its the sort of plane that can do a lot of damage if left alone but will be incredibly frustrating to play when a player/headhunting bot decides to take you down.
Edited by hoom, 13 April 2019 - 09:42 AM.
Captain
Prenzlau, on 12 April 2019 - 07:28 PM, said:
Captain always has had "Bomber Envy" because our bombers are always better and maybe somewhat longer.
He is also still probably still upset and maybe a little traumatized when I flew over the top of him and his bomber exploded from my bomb drop. Oppsy!
My mine... you hear... my mine!!! All mine! Don't fly over my mine! It's mine.
Prenzlau
I miss the days when you thought it was a good idea to ram my Tier IV bomber with your Tier III bomber. Quite funny, actually.
At 71 I have pretty much outgrown the 'who has the longest bomber' syndrome. But you go ahead and keep on keepin' on. 
Captain
hoom, on 13 April 2019 - 04:48 AM, said:
I have this now, played 3 battles so far, stuck in some of my best crew (its a Premium -> can put any Soviet crew in there)
Its OK but not amazing, feels a lot like Bf-110-C6: a kinda lumbering yet floaty feel to it that makes it seem not that quick, long range gun(s) that hits hard but is a bit tricky to dial-in & aim confused by the 2ndary guns. (I've not managed to get dedicated primary fire button to work well)
First battle I was staying high trying to kill Bombers & getting annoyingly competed with by a P-51 & a Bf-109Z for a lot of it, the 109Z is much quicker & seemed to be doing most of the damage.
Later split off from them & was having a hard time landing hits on other planes.
2nd battle definitely felt pretty 110-C6 but I actually don't remember details much (not enough sleep!), did land some good hits, missed a bunch of others though.
3rd battle I had my aim in a lot better & got some real nice alpha hits.
While the top speed isn't that great I'm actually getting round the map pretty quickly, sustaining 650km/h easy level with blips of boost and 700 with a little dive. (running Improved Uprated Engine, Improved Mixture Control, pilot with both Engine Gurus)
Its the sort of plane that can do a lot of damage if left alone but will be incredibly frustrating to play when a player/headhunting bot decides to take you on.
Yeah, I got sniped/headhunted a bit. Three more battles. Excellent plane, but it needs more engine. EGI and EGII plus ADE are going to be required.
Captain
Captain_Underpants53, on 13 April 2019 - 05:20 AM, said:
At 71 I have pretty much outgrown the 'who has the longest bomber' syndrome. But you go ahead and keep on keepin' on.
When you need a pill to keep your fuselage rigid... ;)
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