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Stygian_Alchemist #1 Posted 06 April 2019 - 08:05 PM

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Anyone -actually- do this on a regular basis? Seems the consumable cost alone would make it prohibitive for anyone without a thick wallet.

The only time I see people do it is after I kill them and then they start cycling through planes at their airfield, trying to figure out what might possibly work to kill me... useful tactic I suppose when you have a badly mismatched plane, but also cannot think of a greater compliment of "You're just that much better than me at playing this game."

I've tried it a couple of times and always hate myself after the end of the battle when no matter how well I did I go into the hole because double consumables costs.

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Since I have tried bombers now and fell asleep in the middle of a sortie.

I have to admit that if I wake up in time to switch planes I probably would.

Of course that is based on the team lead.

Have not switched planes yet nor would I just to get a revenge kill on an individual.

From what I have seen. The individual is either too low on hit points when you respawn.

Or they are previously engaged making it less exciting.

 

Here is a video I made of two rivals ( friendly rivalry ).

We were the only humans in the battle and although we both had opportunities to

take each other out in the course of the game. We waited till the end so it was human vs human.

 

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 06 April 2019 - 08:05 PM, said:

Anyone -actually- do this on a regular basis? Seems the consumable cost alone would make it prohibitive for anyone without a thick wallet.

The only time I see people do it is after I kill them and then they start cycling through planes at their airfield, trying to figure out what might possibly work to kill me... useful tactic I suppose when you have a badly mismatched plane, but also cannot think of a greater compliment of "You're just that much better than me at playing this game."

I've tried it a couple of times and always hate myself after the end of the battle when no matter how well I did I go into the hole because double consumables costs.

 

I have changed planes in a battle when the plane I had was not the plane I needed.  I was flying my Yak-15, and the other side had two human RB-17 drivers, and that means I need something other than a jet-fuel-soaked kite that can turn on a dime at low altitude.  I needed Do-335 speed and gun range.  But no, normally I run the plane I chose at the beginning, win or lose.

 

I have had the experience you cite.  I was flying my Me-262, and kept knocking down an RB-17 player.  He was cussing me out in chat, because I was covering the Mining Plant, and he kept going to the plant to bomb it.  Well, gosh, after the first two shoot-downs, you'd think he'd learn.  No, got zapped one last time right after they FINALLY took the airbase.  Zipped right over to the Plant (like I don't have radar, bro?), and got to taste my 262 with a turn build.  LOLOLOLOL.


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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 06 April 2019 - 03:05 PM, said:

Anyone -actually- do this on a regular basis? Seems the consumable cost alone would make it prohibitive for anyone without a thick wallet.

The only time I see people do it is after I kill them and then they start cycling through planes at their airfield, trying to figure out what might possibly work to kill me... useful tactic I suppose when you have a badly mismatched plane, but also cannot think of a greater compliment of "You're just that much better than me at playing this game."

I've tried it a couple of times and always hate myself after the end of the battle when no matter how well I did I go into the hole because double consumables costs.

 

Yes.

I don't because I'm too stupid. But several of my clan mates do it. I works insanely well for them. It's a habit they do naturaly.  :)

 


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Stygian_Alchemist #5 Posted 06 April 2019 - 09:37 PM

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View PostSkyWolf__WM, on 06 April 2019 - 03:29 PM, said:

 

Yes.

I don't because I'm too stupid. But several of my clan mates do it. I works insanely well for them. It's a habit they do naturaly.  :)

 

 

Fair.

But, at t10 that puts me at what.. 50k in consumables per plane.. so if I fly three planes in a battle that's 150k -just- in consumables isn't it?

Heck, if I fly -two- planes that's still 100k in consumables alone.

How in the heck are people affording that is I suppose my question or do most people just not fly with consumables? (I don't always, but still)

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Only if it's really necessary.

Like the central airbase is about to fall, I take a Spit and help defend it. Respawning in GA does not help at that moment ..


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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 06 April 2019 - 01:37 PM, said:

 

Fair.

But, at t10 that puts me at what.. 50k in consumables per plane.. so if I fly three planes in a battle that's 150k -just- in consumables isn't it?

Heck, if I fly -two- planes that's still 100k in consumables alone.

How in the heck are people affording that is I suppose my question or do most people just not fly with consumables? (I don't always, but still)

 

I had a battle last night in my Ju-87G where there were several good players in turn-fighters on the enemy team, whereas my team’s players were okay but were still getting their butt handed to them(I think most of them were bottom Tier). In any case they were in no position to escort me and I got shot down pretty quickly. Since we had an Airbase at least, I switched to my SE-100 to level the playing field. I did pretty well, harassing the enemy players and shooting them down, but eventually I was on low enough health that an enemy Spitfire I was able to take me down, in exchange for his own plane(we finished each other off at the exact same time). By this time squall line was just about to hit, so, thinking quickly, I switched to my Beaufighter. More forward firepower and more health were extremely useful for squall line. Most of the remain of the enemy team were bots except for one player in an attack aircraft. I went to town on the enemy bots, and when the enemy player GAA tried to head-on me while he was at very low health and me at about half health, he very nearly got me but my 470 DPS proved to be just too much for his little remaining health.

 

We didn’t win that one, sadly as I wasn’t able to kill the last enemy bot(a MiG-3) in time and I was almost the only one left on my team, but I just wanted to share this because it was the first time I’ve ever played three planes in one battle before.


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Yeah like others a couple of times I've switched when I've been severely outmatched like in my Su-9 & there was a Tempest hunting me was one, think I switched to Hornet & killed him a couple of times.

But other than that nope, I'm playing a plane to get the *2 so I want to go full battle with it.


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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 06 April 2019 - 09:37 PM, said:

 

Fair.

But, at t10 that puts me at what.. 50k in consumables per plane.. so if I fly three planes in a battle that's 150k -just- in consumables isn't it?

Heck, if I fly -two- planes that's still 100k in consumables alone.

How in the heck are people affording that is I suppose my question or do most people just not fly with consumables? (I don't always, but still)

 

I fly my Do-335 and make 250k, easy.

wylleEcoyote #12 Posted 07 April 2019 - 03:19 AM

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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 06 April 2019 - 08:51 PM, said:

 

I fly my Do-335 and make 250k, easy.


This.  Tier 8 Premiums are (as far as I am aware) always Massive credit makers in any World of Whatever from WarGaming.

Hey Pilots! Did you forget that specialist planes get a 20% boost to credit income?
That helps a bit (especially when you fill all those slots with credit consumables)
 

Also on a personal note: Half of the planes in my hanger are premiums of one kind or another.

If I spend one night a week playing nothing but tier 2-7 Premiums ... I usually have enough credits for the rest of the week.
If a random weekend event comes along that one of those previously mentioned T8 premiums is useful for;
then the three day grind puts enough credits in the bank for a new plane or three and a set of appropriate equipment for enhancement.    

... well at least until you get to tier 8.

At that point the in-game economy in place starts doing its job of making high tier play enough of a credit sink to encourage players to continue lower tier play for the farming of Credits.(if nothing else)

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is very hit or miss. Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.

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Heavy Fighters: P-38 F/J,  XP-58, Tu-1, Bf 110 C-6, SE 100, Me 410, Do 335 A-1, Me 262

Attack Aircraft: Hs 123, Ha 137, Hs 129 A, Ju 87 G, Me 265, Me 1099 B-2
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I probably have switched planes enough to count them on one hand.  

 

Funny thing is, if you go into your stats on the web interface, it shows wildly different results.  Like a vast percentage of battles it shows that the plane I finished the battle was not the one I started with.  Don't know if I am reading this wrong, but I maybe, just maybe changed planes like 5 times, heck, maybe 6.  But I always dance with the one I brought as I don't want to goof with my chi.  



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 Did you forget that specialist planes get a 20% boost to credit income?

OOh I did not know that :hiding:

Still the point was pretty valid: swapping planes in T10 means multiple expensive consumables/ammo cost vs 1* sticking with the same plane.


Edited by hoom, 07 April 2019 - 03:43 AM.

C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le SerB.

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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 06 April 2019 - 07:51 PM, said:

 

I fly my Do-335 and make 250k, easy.

 

That's a T8 Premium, comparing apples to oranges in coin production.

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 07 April 2019 - 03:50 AM, said:

 

That's a T8 Premium, comparing apples to oranges in coin production.

That would be true, if I was making a comparison.

 

I'm not.  I'm stating what I do if I want to generate piles of silver.  Or I fly my XF-85.  Whatever it takes to build up the supply.

 

That way, I have coins for changing planes at an airbase if I need to.



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 06 April 2019 - 10:38 PM, said:

That would be true, if I was making a comparison.

 

I'm not.  I'm stating what I do if I want to generate piles of silver.  Or I fly my XF-85.  Whatever it takes to build up the supply.

 

That way, I have coins for changing planes at an airbase if I need to.

 

Fair, I have a dozen planes I could fly to purposely generate coin that are premiums. It's still ridiculous the cost to fly a T10 vs. it's coin output so far as I am concerned, especially if you want to take advantage of switching planes at an airbase.

Keeping in mind that's pretty well all I fly or T8 :P 

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And of course; I forget to mention premium time.

Even tech tree planes can make coins at that point instead of various levels of breaking even.

Sooooo much coins

:coin::coin::coin::coin:

Edited by wylleEcoyote, 07 April 2019 - 05:16 AM.

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is very hit or miss. Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.

Specialist Planes I have from : USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:  XP-31, Model 81A-1, P-40, P-51A, P-39N-1, XF15C, DH.100 F1, Bf 109 B / E / E-3, Me209v4, Me209 A
Multi-Roles: F11C-2, F4F, P-47B, Fw 56, He 112, Fw 190 A-1 / A-5 / D

Heavy Fighters: P-38 F/J,  XP-58, Tu-1, Bf 110 C-6, SE 100, Me 410, Do 335 A-1, Me 262

Attack Aircraft: Hs 123, Ha 137, Hs 129 A, Ju 87 G, Me 265, Me 1099 B-2
Bombers: Do 17 Z, He 111 H2, Do 217 M
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Stygian_Alchemist #19 Posted 07 April 2019 - 05:32 AM

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View PostwylleEcoyote, on 06 April 2019 - 11:14 PM, said:

And of course; I forget to mention premium time.

Even tech tree planes can make coins at that point instead of various levels of breaking even.

Sooooo much coins

:coin::coin::coin::coin:

 

Oh, yes, I make an easy 100k in profit even on most mediocre fights because premium, but still. I've begun leaving consumables off and finding how to purist fly the planes and making more money lol

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