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White_Widow18 #1 Posted 21 March 2019 - 11:06 PM

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"Bombers need not apply"

Cool.

Glad to know WG'ing made an entire event about bombers and then made 2 of the event segments completely pointless.

Really though.. 4 heavy fighters all chasing me from the moment they spawn is something else to experience 6 matches in a row.
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GonerNL #2 Posted 21 March 2019 - 11:10 PM

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Yep.

I quit.

First tried bombers and got every bot Bf-110 on my tail for 3 battles. Then fighters and same thing, swarmed by bots out for human blood.

 

Too bad. Have time to play this weekend, but probably only between phases. This event is useless ...


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legoboy0401 #4 Posted 21 March 2019 - 11:31 PM

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 21 March 2019 - 03:06 PM, said:

"Bombers need not apply"

Cool.

Glad to know WG'ing made an entire event about bombers and then made 2 of the event segments completely pointless.

Really though.. 4 heavy fighters all chasing me from the moment they spawn is something else to experience 6 matches in a row.

 

Widow, remember how I said I am playing Tier II and IIIs this weekend? That's why.

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Chuck_norris10 #5 Posted 21 March 2019 - 11:48 PM

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Fire up a fighter or anything but a bomber and join in the fun! The bombers need escorts,go help them out.

No wonder it's like the Marianas turkey shoot when bombers are in the air is they have no protection. By the time I get to them in a spit all bomber escort is gone and I can take 3 or 4 bombers out in a spit....A spit!


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White_Widow18 #6 Posted 22 March 2019 - 12:00 AM

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View Postlegoboy0401, on 21 March 2019 - 05:31 PM, said:

 

Widow, remember how I said I am playing Tier II and IIIs this weekend? That's why.

 

View PostChuck_norris10, on 21 March 2019 - 05:48 PM, said:

Fire up a fighter or anything but a bomber and join in the fun! The bombers need escorts,go help them out.

No wonder it's like the Marianas turkey shoot when bombers are in the air is they have no protection. By the time I get to them in a spit all bomber escort is gone and I can take 3 or 4 bombers out in a spit....A spit!

 

View PostGonerNL, on 21 March 2019 - 05:10 PM, said:

Yep.

I quit.

First tried bombers and got every bot Bf-110 on my tail for 3 battles. Then fighters and same thing, swarmed by bots out for human blood.

 

Too bad. Have time to play this weekend, but probably only between phases. This event is useless ...

 

All of this is why I decided to finally get off my duff and level my MiG line since I got a free 6 point pilot for it at some point or another.
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LeastWeasel #7 Posted 22 March 2019 - 12:15 AM

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...Just watched the last enemy player switch to a bomber in the final few minutes, and tool about in high orbit poopin’ out bombs for three minutes trying to get the last cap....

My mustang mkI couldn’t reach, and the heavy bots just circled at mid-alt while the 109’s did the same

So those headhunter heavies aren’t universal. I have anecdotal evidence!!!


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StoptheViolins #8 Posted 22 March 2019 - 12:24 AM

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They pretty much just fly at whoever they started the game going after as part of the headhunter bot AI that WG said they got rid of a few dozen patches ago.  I just lead them to the farthest corner of the map - best way to take out 4/5 the team for about 1-2 minutes while they fly back to the action. 

 

This mode is pretty much garbage.  



ClosedCoffin #9 Posted 22 March 2019 - 02:02 AM

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But again this week a victory in a bomber, and i had a couple tonight, feels so much more worthwhile than I'd imagine getting a win on defense feels.

White_Widow18 #10 Posted 22 March 2019 - 02:04 AM

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View PostClosedCoffin, on 21 March 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

But again this week a victory in a bomber, and i had a couple tonight, feels so much more worthwhile than I'd imagine getting a win on defense feels.

 

That I will grant you. It feels rather like you turned lead to gold.
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sandtiger #11 Posted 22 March 2019 - 02:23 AM

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no mater what i flying this week end i am not have fun

i not enjoy any of this event

 

 

 



Bettennic #12 Posted 22 March 2019 - 03:37 AM

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Please stop forcing us to play in certain formats, Played 12 games in this stupid Divide and Rule and the defending team won all 12. Give us the freaking choice to just play normal mode play. I don't need crap. Just let me play the game

Prenzlau #13 Posted 22 March 2019 - 03:40 AM

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    The only way to win in a bomber (any bomber) is to fly up to your ceiling, all the way up into the red and take your time pecking away at the ground targets, while 3 or 4 heavies take pot shots at you. Hope that there is a few players on the ground that can kill a few planes to help soften up a few sectors.

 

    From what I have seen, the bot heavies target bombers and are relentless. If you fly any lower than your absolute ceiling, you will die.

 

    The problem with the ceiling is that you are slow, your bomb drops are not accurate, and they still can reach you, especially heavies with big guns, like the Japanese, or the T4 Me 110, C-6.

 

    I find that the German Do 217 M or the Ju 88 A are my best chances for wins. If you can flight with someone in a heavy that can protect you, that can work as well. 

 

    AA seems non existent, but with 3 or 4 heavies attacking you, any AA damage would be insult to injury, so I figure they are very much aware of what they have created.

 

    As far as the fun factor for bombers, NO, not really... every battle is the same, flying at the ceiling, slow, painful bomb drops, while heavies stalk you and take shots. 

 

    So WG has created a battle mode where if the attackers win because the defenders cannot reach to kill a bomber, (even though they have all their planes and the attackers have one), it is super frustrating for the defenders to lose. On the flip side, I've struggled to take sectors because my bomber is very inaccurate at the ceiling, so I've watched my team lose because I could not take a sector. Very frustrating for either side.

 

    The accuracy on the T7 and T8 German Ju 288's is horrendous when flying above 4000m. I mean ridiculously bad. 

 

    If you fly fighters or heavies, life is good and battle can be fun, but bombers have been hosed, once again.

 

   Just my insights,

 

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Captain_Underpants53 #14 Posted 22 March 2019 - 04:38 AM

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At least we can rest assured that they will make adjustments when they notice the extreme imbalance.  Just like they did last week with bomber escort?                             DOH!
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White_Widow18 #15 Posted 22 March 2019 - 05:52 AM

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It's literally the most imbalanced and un-fun mode they've ever put out... I used to get frustrated at the "games so fast you can't score any significant points" in conquest/normal mode.. this.. this is a joke.

Even if I don't die and use only two consumables I sometimes am not making enough money because the game isn't lasting long enough. It's ridiculous.
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View PostBettennic, on 21 March 2019 - 07:37 PM, said:

Please stop forcing us to play in certain formats, Played 12 games in this stupid Divide and Rule and the defending team won all 12. Give us the freaking choice to just play normal mode play. I don't need crap. Just let me play the game

 

^^^ This ^^

You are so right. I don't need any supply crates, more planes or parts.

I played 4 games and thank God the server reset at 1 am PST....

I will try some more tomorrow, but just 5 Wins looks shaky.


 

 


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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 22 March 2019 - 02:06 AM, said:

"Bombers need not apply"

Cool.

Glad to know WG'ing made an entire event about bombers and then made 2 of the event segments completely pointless.

Really though.. 4 heavy fighters all chasing me from the moment they spawn is something else to experience 6 matches in a row.

 

You know, AI is programmed that way that they have certain priorities which built their behavior. For Heavies it is primarily bombers and it is absolutely correct in that way. They won't chase you after your death as if you are a red rag to a bull of course. But. When you enter the "radius" (not sure how I should call it) of their attention and they don't have a higher priority objective they will do their job. So when your aircraft isn't destroyed and you doesn't destroy them as well, they simply have no any other higher (or at least the same) priority to switch. 

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View PostblindfoId, on 22 March 2019 - 09:41 AM, said:

 

You know, AI is programmed that way that they have certain priorities which built their behavior. For Heavies it is primarily bombers and it is absolutely correct in that way. They won't chase you after your death as if you are a red rag to a bull of course. But. When you enter the "radius" (not sure how I should call it) of their attention and they don't have a higher priority objective they will do their job. So when your aircraft isn't destroyed and you doesn't destroy them as well, they simply have no any other higher (or at least the same) priority to switch. 

 

That certainly does NOT explain the heavy bots streaking across the map to you whether you been kilt or not.  And your explanation sounds like headhunting to me.
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View PostblindfoId, on 22 March 2019 - 02:41 PM, said:

 

You know, AI is programmed that way that they have certain priorities which built their behavior. For Heavies it is primarily bombers and it is absolutely correct in that way. They won't chase you after your death as if you are a red rag to a bull of course. But. When you enter the "radius" (not sure how I should call it) of their attention and they don't have a higher priority objective they will do their job. So when your aircraft isn't destroyed and you doesn't destroy them as well, they simply have no any other higher (or at least the same) priority to switch. 

 

This is so wrong. They chase me after respawn and come from opposite of the map now. 1 ok, 2 ok too but 3 or 4 i can not handle. They do not come one after another...try it, you will see ...

nwlxn12 #20 Posted 22 March 2019 - 03:23 PM

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View PostblindfoId, on 22 March 2019 - 08:41 AM, said:

 

You know, AI is programmed that way that they have certain priorities which built their behavior. For Heavies it is primarily bombers and it is absolutely correct in that way. They won't chase you after your death as if you are a red rag to a bull of course. But. When you enter the "radius" (not sure how I should call it) of their attention and they don't have a higher priority objective they will do their job. So when your aircraft isn't destroyed and you doesn't destroy them as well, they simply have no any other higher (or at least the same) priority to switch. 

 

Maybe you should program the AI that is on offense with the same priority to protect bombers, as you give them to shoot them down when they are on defense.

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