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PoliticallyIncorrectName #1 Posted 21 March 2019 - 06:23 PM

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I understand you need to milk new players, but locking the progression missions DEMANDING to spend $$$ is... well... a russian marketing moveTM (TM by Klaus Kellerman)

 

 

 

Well, since NA WG staff just plain LIES to portion of their playerbase about moving the account to EU after WoT NA server merge, this comes as little surprise.

 

I geniuely spent €30 on bunch of indie games instead of WG. I guess the only way to vote, is to vote with my money...



legoboy0401 #2 Posted 21 March 2019 - 07:32 PM

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View PostPoliticallyIncorrectName, on 21 March 2019 - 10:23 AM, said:

I understand you need to milk new players, but locking the progression missions DEMANDING to spend $$$ is... well... a russian marketing moveTM (TM by Klaus Kellerman)

 

 

 

Well, since NA WG staff just plain LIES to portion of their playerbase about moving the account to EU after WoT NA server merge, this comes as little surprise.

 

I geniuely spent €30 on bunch of indie games instead of WG. I guess the only way to vote, is to vote with my money...

 

Well, they don't award gold, do they? Or do you only get your gold after completing all the missions?(unlike the previous version where every mission gave you gold)

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View Postlegoboy0401, on 21 March 2019 - 02:32 PM, said:

Well, they don't award gold, do they? Or do you only get your gold after completing all the missions?(unlike the previous version where every mission gave you gold)

 

It's not even about giving gold or not, this is supposed to be a tutorial for new players. If someone that has never played the game before sees this they will think they need to do do those things, not that it's optional. It's a quick way to make the players waste the gold they just earned, if not buy more :angry:


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legoboy0401 #4 Posted 21 March 2019 - 08:11 PM

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View PostLMG, on 21 March 2019 - 12:06 PM, said:

 

It's not even about giving gold or not, this is supposed to be a tutorial for new players. If someone that has never played the game before sees this they will think they need to do do those things, not that it's optional. It's a quick way to make the players waste the gold they just earned, if not buy more :angry:

 

Agreed. It makes it look like a cheap mobile game that says "free" when you download it, only to find if you want to actually get to do anything fun or get something cool in a timely manner, you have to pay your way into those things.

 

WoWP really IS free-to-play, not "free" only on the App store(just a reference to mobile games, I know WoWP does not have a mobile version) or "free" in name only or in appearance only.


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Premium time missing.JPG

Combat Reconnaissance Premium Account purchase NON-results.

 

I bought some Premium time .  It did not show in the Combat Recon pop-up.  It DID show up on the top left corner as Premium day credits. 

Did note while buying it from the Premium  Shop a message that it will show at next game restart.

No, it still didn't show in the Combat Reconnaissance pop-up screen after cold booting the game including shutting down everything in the background with Task Manager.

You have my money, so

Where is it?

 


Edited by Deltavee, 21 March 2019 - 08:20 PM.

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legoboy0401 #6 Posted 21 March 2019 - 08:33 PM

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View PostDeltavee, on 21 March 2019 - 12:14 PM, said:

Premium time missing.JPG

Combat Reconnaissance Premium Account purchase NON-results.

 

I bought some Premium time .  It did not show in the Combat Recon pop-up.  It DID show up on the top left corner as Premium day credits. 

Did note while buying it from the Premium  Shop a message that it will show at next game restart.

No, it still didn't show in the Combat Reconnaissance pop-up screen after cold booting the game including shutting down everything in the background with Task Manager.

You have my money, so

Where is it?

 

 

Maybe you are supposed to buy it in-game with gold? (a stupid requirement of a new player, but knowing WG, not out of the question)

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View Postlegoboy0401, on 21 March 2019 - 02:32 PM, said:

 

Well, they don't award gold, do they? Or do you only get your gold after completing all the missions?(unlike the previous version where every mission gave you gold)

 

It is added as you go along.  Just now finished the Attack Aircraft requirement and received 50 gold right away.

I also got six aircraft kills while doing it, which is something out of the Twilight Zone in an IL-2 (mod.).  Stranger and stranger.


Edited by Deltavee, 21 March 2019 - 08:43 PM.

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You get a free premium plane for joining via steam.

Just saying.
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Deltavee #9 Posted 21 March 2019 - 09:27 PM

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View Postlegoboy0401, on 21 March 2019 - 03:33 PM, said:

 

Maybe you are supposed to buy it in-game with gold? (a stupid requirement of a new player, but knowing WG, not out of the question)

You called it, legoboy.  You were literally right on the money.
Click on your name top left corner, buy Premium time with 250 gold from the drop-down menu that you would have no clue was there if you were a new player.  WELL, that's really obvious, isn't it?  Especially if you're a new player.
Now I'm just pi**ed.  It should be made obvious or included in the instructions but this way they get people to just go to Premium and buy Premium time and get NO credit in the Recon.
****i** slime****s.  I don't know if they're farming players or just stupid.

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 21 March 2019 - 04:09 PM, said:

You get a free premium plane for joining via steam.

Just saying.

 

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View PostDeltavee, on 21 March 2019 - 04:27 PM, said:

You called it, legoboy.  You were literally right on the money.
Click on your name top left corner, buy Premium time with 250 gold from the drop-down menu that you would have no clue was there if you were a new player.  WELL, that's really obvious, isn't it?  Especially if you're a new player.
Now I'm just pi**ed.  It should be made obvious or included in the instructions but this way they get people to just go to Premium and buy Premium time and get NO credit in the Recon.
****i** slime****s.  I don't know if they're farming players or just stupid.

:angry:

 

Sounds like a good poll question as long as one of the choices is 'All of the above'.

 

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Flippin A right they are paywalling people.

I said flip it. I am just going to get in a toon and wreck it ralf all over the place.

THe heck with their missions and GIVE ME $$ for nothing.

Rather spend my money on beer and get college girls drunk.



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I discovered the Premium plane mission just as I was done with flying and heading for work.  I expected to find this thread by the time I returned, or by Dog I was going to start it.

 

I am disgusted and VERY ANGRY at this utter bovine suppository move by WG.

 

not cool, not cool at all.  



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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 21 March 2019 - 04:32 PM, said:

 

Sounds like a good poll question as long as one of the choices is 'All of the above'.

 

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This is where I stop posting for tonight because the next post is going to get me banned for a month if I put it up.

 

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View PostPoliticallyIncorrectName, on 21 March 2019 - 09:23 PM, said:

I understand you need to milk new players, but locking the progression missions DEMANDING to spend $$$ is... well... a russian marketing moveTM (TM by Klaus Kellerman)

 

 

 

 

 

Calm a little bit down guys, let me try to explain:

1. You are awarded with gold when complete certain missions. So you don't need to spend real money to purchase Premium Aircraft, Premium Days and/or gold.

2. Moreover, you need to buy a Premium Day using gold and only gold, Premium Days bought using real money don't count towards this missions. Please take a careful look at the first screenshot. It says "Activate Premium Days using gold"..

3. This "purchase"-missions are optional. Play a battle or two more (as far as I can see from the screenshots, the last completed mission is "Fighter") to get next mission in the chain.

4. Plus, later in the chain there's a mission with a reward of 1 Premium Day. Receiving this Premium Day will count towards the above mentioned mission. Just play battles to unlock this mission. 

5. Premium content is a part of game. This missions introduce this part of game content, if you don't want to buy premium aircraft (let me point this out one more time - using gold that you receive completing battle missions) you are not forced to do it.

 

View PostPoliticallyIncorrectName, on 21 March 2019 - 09:23 PM, said:

 

Well, since NA WG staff just plain LIES to portion of their playerbase about moving the account to EU after WoT NA server merge, this comes as little surprise.

 

To be honest, I have no idea what you are talking about. 



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View PostblindfoId, on 22 March 2019 - 08:53 AM, said:

 

 

To be honest, I have no idea what you are talking about. 

 

No wonder, you're PR person after all

http://forum.worldof...s-server-merge/

 



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upon further review, I must retract MOST of my anger at this. 

 

It is possible to earn enough gold on the Recon Missions to purchase several of the cheapest Premiums, and as mentioned above, the Mission for a day of Premium Time counts. 

 

I still think that the optics are bad, it's still a potential cash grab, and I NEVER appreciate "you should have read the fine print" as a Customer Service response.

 

that being said, I am mollified and do apologize for the earlier angry post.



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The Premium Account purchase requirement did not show up as completed but showed 0/1 and it stayed that way after I bought a single day through the premium shop (of course) and legoboy suggested it might have to be bought through the game and he was right but the counter still didn't change.  It wasn't the lousy $1.88 that generated my post, it was not getting something I had paid for.

WoWP's overall attitude towards money and players is not of the type that suggests confidence, hence my post.  Note my post was only about the Premium day, nothing else and I have otherwise enjoyed the spectacle and yes, the reward gold is provided on an as-you-play basis which I found to be a pleasant surprise.  Colour me calm.

The above problem aside, I am enjoying the whole Combat Recon experience.

I did take a Chain Lightning into the Heavy Fighter requirement and made a tasty snack for a variety of jets but that's neither here not there, just a surprise.  We won.  I got 50 gold for it.  Wagged tail and moved on.


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View PostblindfoId, on 22 March 2019 - 02:53 AM, said:

 

Calm a little bit down guys, let me try to explain:

1. You are awarded with gold when complete certain missions. So you don't need to spend real money to purchase Premium Aircraft, Premium Days and/or gold.

2. Moreover, you need to buy a Premium Day using gold and only gold, Premium Days bought using real money don't count towards this missions. Please take a careful look at the first screenshot. It says "Activate Premium Days using gold"..

3. This "purchase"-missions are optional. Play a battle or two more (as far as I can see from the screenshots, the last completed mission is "Fighter") to get next mission in the chain.

4. Plus, later in the chain there's a mission with a reward of 1 Premium Day. Receiving this Premium Day will count towards the above mentioned mission. Just play battles to unlock this mission. 

5. Premium content is a part of game. This missions introduce this part of game content, if you don't want to buy premium aircraft (let me point this out one more time - using gold that you receive completing battle missions) you are not forced to do it.

 

 

To be honest, I have no idea what you are talking about. 

 

Thank you, this is exactly what I discovered. The thousand free gold basically is so that you can start with a free premium plane. 

My only issue (at this juncture) is that if you've been playing already for a while and have bought most or all of the low-tier premium planes.. completing that mission is going to be expensive for the completionist. Perhaps if you've already -bought- a premium plane it should be an auto-completion?
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View Postqu33kKC, on 22 March 2019 - 09:08 AM, said:

upon further review, I must retract MOST of my anger at this. 

 

It is possible to earn enough gold on the Recon Missions to purchase several of the cheapest Premiums, and as mentioned above, the Mission for a day of Premium Time counts. 

 

I still think that the optics are bad, it's still a potential cash grab, and I NEVER appreciate "you should have read the fine print" as a Customer Service response.

 

that being said, I am mollified and do apologize for the earlier angry post.

 

View PostWhite_Widow18, on 22 March 2019 - 01:15 PM, said:

 

Thank you, this is exactly what I discovered. The thousand free gold basically is so that you can start with a free premium plane. 

My only issue (at this juncture) is that if you've been playing already for a while and have bought most or all of the low-tier premium planes.. completing that mission is going to be expensive for the completionist. Perhaps if you've already -bought- a premium plane it should be an auto-completion?

 

Where are you seeing 1000 gold?  Two recon missions paid out 25 and 50 gold.  I’ve finished the 10/12 with the two contentious Premium missions remaining that show 500 free xp for award.

 

edit:  All of a sudden I have a 13th mission for 100 gold.  How many mission are there?


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