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White_Widow18 #1 Posted 05 March 2019 - 09:52 PM

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Welcome to the thread where I attempt to snapshot, in 5 games, every bomber in the game and a quick opinion (mine alone, YMMV, no guarantees or warranties, blah blah blah). All bombers will be specialisted and geared before I add them to this posting. This -will- be a longer term project and who knows.. I might get burnt out. Still, here it is.
(Note: I am typing everything out because I can never get screenshots to actually link properly in the forums and because its a friendlier format to parse information in my opinion. Also, If anyone feels like I missed anything in these write-ups and wants to politely suggest a correction, please do!)
Edited to Add: All Planes Reviewed will avoid any usage of Premium consumables for the purpose of the snapshot as well as anything else unobtainable through free play. Excepting, of course, the fact that some planes will necessarily be premiums. All battle lists will be five consecutive battles, no cherry picking, just what comes down the MM and none will be completed while I am in a flight.
 

Tier III JU 86 E - Specialist
Painted with all seasons of Camouflage 
Equipped with- 
Ultimate Uprated Engine (478)
+10% acceleration without boost
+5.8% cruise speed
-33% fire resistance
+5% Engine cooldown rate
+1% acceleration without boost
+0.5% max speed with boost
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Ultimate Turret Gunsight (478)
+25% Firing Range When Manually Controlled
-17% Gunner's Resistance to injury
+10% chance of critical hit
+5% aiming speed
+5% Gunner's Resistance to Injury
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Ultimate Strengthened Hardpoints (478)
+21% Bomb Reload speed
-5.8% cruise speed
-5.8% max speed under boost
+10% Bomb Reload Speed
+1% cruise speed
+5% bomb accuracy
-
Fire Extinguisher, Mixture Control, Universal Turret Ammunition, and Improved Fragmentation
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Pilot: Demo expert, Eagle Eyed, Fire Resistance
Gunner: Precision Gunner, Endurance, Vigilance
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1.)13600 points, first place, Archipelago: Retaliation
    18 ground targets, 1 aerial Kill, 0 deaths, 3 sectors captured
    400-177 victory

2.)8670 points, first place, Arctic Region: Alarming News
    12 ground targets, 1 aerial kill, 0 deaths, 2 sectors captured

    600-105 victory

3.)12970, second place, Scorching sands: Edge of the World
    14 ground targets, 1 aerial kill, 1 death, 4 sectors captured
    800-498 (Of note, I black screened on load in for this match)

4.)12670, first place, Scorching Sands: Invasion
    19 ground targets, 0 aerial kills, 0 deaths, 5 sectors captured
    800-129 victory

5.)13835, first place, Peripheral Mission: Silence of Ice
    20 ground targets, 0 aerial kills, 0 deaths, 3 sectors captured
    800-150 victory
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What can I say about the JU 86 E -except- to sing its praises. I can find -no- flaw with this bomber, not even its turret views.

Reload speed is 27 seconds total and with 4 clusters of 4 bombs its drop effectiveness is capable of almost guaranteeing 4 wiped ground targets with every reload. Minimum optimal altitude is 3937 ft, maximum optimal altitude is 5906 ft and it has a service ceiling of 11811ft with a climb rate of 111 ft/sec. Cruise of 179, max boost of 212, and a 40 second boost. Not bad speed or altitude capacity for a t3 bomber or really -any- t3 in my opinion. Its turrets have an optimal range of 2461 feet and a cumulative damage of 8 for a total rating of 2. There are 3 7.2 MM turrets giving you cover over a good portion of the bottom, the entire front, and the majority of the back, sides and above the bomber, in a down-tier match you can -literally- match the light fighters for DPS if you position yourself correctly to keep the bottom and top turret firing on the same target which is quite possible due to the narrowness of the fuselage. Finally, health pool... it's an important stat for all planes but especially things like bombers. At 600 HP, it's quite stout and while it is prone to fire due to the equipment build I use.... it's -very- difficult to just outright take it out of the air at this tier. 

Playstyle with this bomber has to be the single most straightforward I've ever managed.. there isn't much up or down and dodging basically consists of waggling the tail back and forth in big swoops. I stay at about 5000ft of altitude unless we're at a point of Air Supremacy and then I'll come storming down to lower altitudes to pick on the light fighters. I honestly wish it was more available to the playerbase as it -is- so dead simple to fly I feel like it's one of the best, if not the best, introductions to bomber piloting. The tier is the simplest in maps and strategy and due to the play speed is most forgiving of mis-judging or mis-picking targets for drops, and you can still fly this thing like an ostrich of a heavy fighter while not giving you the false sense of security that a "forward gun" does (something other bombers often -severely- penalize if you attempt at higher tiers).

P.S. I realize this is a semi-infrequent premium, but I am covering every bomber I have available to me (which is everything but the HE 111 I believe) starting from the lowest tier and moving up.


Edited by White_Widow18, 05 March 2019 - 11:46 PM.

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Booze_Morgan #2 Posted 05 March 2019 - 10:46 PM

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I am looking forward to every one of your snapshots.

Captain_Underpants53 #3 Posted 05 March 2019 - 11:08 PM

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 05 March 2019 - 04:52 PM, said:

Welcome to the thread where I attempt to snapshot, in 5 games, every bomber in the game and a quick opinion (mine alone, YMMV, no guarantees or warranties, blah blah blah). All bombers will be specialisted and geared before I add them to this posting. This -will- be a longer term project and who knows.. I might get burnt out. Still, here it is.
(Note: I am typing everything out because I can never get screenshots to actually link properly in the forums and because its a friendlier format to parse information in my opinion. Also, If anyone feels like I missed anything in these write-ups and wants to politely suggest a correction, please do!)
 

Tier III JU 86 E - Specialist
Painted with all seasons of Camouflage 
Equipped with- 
Ultimate Uprated Engine (478)
+10% acceleration without boost
+5.8% cruise speed
-33% fire resistance
+5% Engine cooldown rate
+1% acceleration without boost
+0.5% max speed with boost
-
Ultimate Turret Gunsight (478)
+25% Firing Range When Manually Controlled
-17% Gunner's Resistance to injury
+10% chance of critical hit
+5% aiming speed
+5% Gunner's Resistance to Injury
-
Ultimate Strengthened Hardpoints (478)
+21% Bomb Reload speed
-5.8% cruise speed
-5.8% max speed under boost
+10% Bomb Reload Speed
+1% cruise speed
+5% bomb accuracy
-
Fire Extinguisher, Mixture Control, Universal Turret Ammunition, and Improved Fragmentation
-
Pilot: Demo expert, Eagle Eyed, Fire Resistance
Gunner: Precision Gunner, Endurance, Vigilance
-----------------------------------------------
1.)13600 points, first place, Archipelago: Retaliation
    18 ground targets, 1 aerial Kill, 0 deaths, 3 sectors captured
    400-177 victory

2.)8670 points, first place, Arctic Region: Alarming News
    12 ground targets, 1 aerial kill, 0 deaths, 2 sectors captured

    600-105 victory

3.)12970, second place, Scorching sands: Edge of the World
    14 ground targets, 1 aerial kill, 1 death, 4 sectors captured
    800-498 (Of note, I black screened on load in for this match)

4.)12670, first place, Scorching Sands: Invasion
    19 ground targets, 0 aerial kills, 0 deaths, 5 sectors captured
    800-129 victory

5.)13835, first place, Peripheral Mission: Silence of Ice
    20 ground targets, 0 aerial kills, 0 deaths, 3 sectors captured
    800-150 victory
--------------------------------------------------------
What can I say about the JU 86 E -except- to sing its praises. I can find -no- flaw with this bomber, not even its turret views.

Reload speed is 27 seconds total and with 4 clusters of 4 bombs its drop effectiveness is capable of almost guaranteeing 4 wiped ground targets with every reload. Minimum optimal altitude is 3937 ft, maximum optimal altitude is 5906 ft and it has a service ceiling of 11811ft with a climb rate of 111 ft/sec. Cruise of 179, max boost of 212, and a 40 second boost. Not bad speed or altitude capacity for a t3 bomber or really -any- t3 in my opinion. Its turrets have an optimal range of 2461 feet and a cumulative damage of 8 for a total rating of 2. There are 3 7.2 MM turrets giving you cover over a good portion of the bottom, the entire front, and the majority of the back, sides and above the bomber, in a down-tier match you can -literally- match the light fighters for DPS if you position yourself correctly to keep the bottom and top turret firing on the same target which is quite possible due to the narrowness of the fuselage. Finally, health pool... it's an important stat for all planes but especially things like bombers. At 600 HP, it's quite stout and while it is prone to fire due to the equipment build I use.... it's -very- difficult to just outright take it out of the air at this tier.

P.S. I realize this is a semi-infrequent premium, but I am covering every bomber I have available to me (which is everything but the HE 111 I believe) starting from the lowest tier and moving up.

 

I just might have to reconsider my build.  I went with heavy armor and Protection Expert.  I believe right now that it is my most successful bomber in terms of GTs per sortie.

 

I too look forwards to your further endeavors.   :medal:


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White_Widow18 #4 Posted 05 March 2019 - 11:29 PM

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Thank you both!

This is -solely- a snapshot of what I've gone with and my theory behind it. Some of the stats in the secondary groupings are still IMHO, mildly imperfect on the gearing for the JU 86 E, but I've not quite ground the tokens to keep reassembling the last few bits and bobs. Tried a few other builds with it and felt they were less successful, but that could be down solely to play style. I'm just trying to ensure the variables for my review were covered fully so that any discussion sparked by it has a solid start point.

Edited by White_Widow18, 05 March 2019 - 11:41 PM.

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White_Widow18 #5 Posted 05 March 2019 - 11:42 PM

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Made a few changes and additions to the original post to flesh it out further and give me wiggle room for other reviews.
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Replays are a thing. :great:

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Thank you!

White_Widow18 #8 Posted 06 March 2019 - 12:21 AM

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View Postmnbv_fockewulfe, on 05 March 2019 - 05:55 PM, said:

Replays are a thing. :great:

 

Sure, where would I go about uploading those? I have them saved and already set aside.
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legoboy0401 #9 Posted 06 March 2019 - 12:24 AM

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Hey Widow, I like this idea. What plane are you thinking of doing next: Blenheim Mk IV(e) or the Tupolev SB?

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White_Widow18 #10 Posted 06 March 2019 - 12:31 AM

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Blenheim is up next, currently finishing gearing it. Dunno the exact frequency of posting any of these, but I'm aiming for a couple a week at the least. Initially they may be faster :) 
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what a great idea for a thread!       ty for your efforts, compiling all of this       can't wait for the next installment 

 

you made me look at my own stats...   10k average damage per sortie in my much beloved T3 specced Blennie, but an incredible 16k in the unloved, unspecced 88e

 

okay, i'll be nicer to it


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Thanks for sharing, very nicely done +1   :great:

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This is great! Have you thought about doing You Tube series for these bombers?

White_Widow18 #14 Posted 06 March 2019 - 01:30 PM

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View PostMartymart1976, on 06 March 2019 - 05:45 AM, said:

This is great! Have you thought about doing You Tube series for these bombers?

 

I have, but it will have to wait until I get a better laptop. Right now, I've tried a few different screen recording programs and all of them drop my frame rate to -just- under playable limits. The disadvantages of a potato laptop.

I'd gladly upload my replay files from the game, but I cannot for the life of me figure out where to upload those :/
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legoboy0401 #15 Posted 06 March 2019 - 04:48 PM

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 06 March 2019 - 05:30 AM, said:

 

I have, but it will have to wait until I get a better laptop. Right now, I've tried a few different screen recording programs and all of them drop my frame rate to -just- under playable limits. The disadvantages of a potato laptop.

I'd gladly upload my replay files from the game, but I cannot for the life of me figure out where to upload those :/

 

 

Hey Widow, with this patch you will be able to pick up the Heinkel He 111 H2!

 

What do you say to that? Will you be picking it up?


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White_Widow18 #16 Posted 06 March 2019 - 04:55 PM

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View Postlegoboy0401, on 06 March 2019 - 10:48 AM, said:

 

 

Hey Widow, with this patch you will be able to pick up the Heinkel He 111 H2!

 

What do you say to that? Will you be picking it up?

 

Dependent on cost, probably. I have a few dollars set aside for this event and I'll be doing a bit of spending toward the new high tier bombers, assuming I have some left after that.. then definitely yes and it'll be in line to be reviewed in tier order hopefully at that point :)
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legoboy0401 #17 Posted 06 March 2019 - 04:59 PM

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 06 March 2019 - 08:55 AM, said:

 

Dependent on cost, probably. I have a few dollars set aside for this event and I'll be doing a bit of spending toward the new high tier bombers, assuming I have some left after that.. then definitely yes and it'll be in line to be reviewed in tier order hopefully at that point :)

 

Is it bad that, though I only just got the Blenheim Mk. IV(e), I want to purchase the He 111 H2 as well myself(don't have either German Premium Bomber)?

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White_Widow18 #18 Posted 06 March 2019 - 05:32 PM

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View Postlegoboy0401, on 06 March 2019 - 10:59 AM, said:

 

Is it bad that, though I only just got the Blenheim Mk. IV(e), I want to purchase the He 111 H2 as well myself(don't have either German Premium Bomber)?

 

Nah. If you've got the money to spare and you enjoy it.. why not?
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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 06 March 2019 - 09:32 AM, said:

 

Nah. If you've got the money to spare and you enjoy it.. why not?

 

What will the price be? Can you guess what it will be?

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White_Widow18 #20 Posted 06 March 2019 - 05:39 PM

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View Postlegoboy0401, on 06 March 2019 - 11:33 AM, said:

 

What will the price be? Can you guess what it will be?

 

Dunno, I'm guessing around 10 bucks though.
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